07-02-2022, 12:27 AM
Montalk
People should know about the military abductions of humans (MILABs).
Melinda Leslie put together a pretty comprehensive presentation on MILABs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTsNwaTvm0c
While there are pure ET abductions, and purely human military abductions, there are also joint projects between ET and MIL involving abduction, experimentation, and mind control.
Such collusion is a big deal because it destroys the narrative of those like Greer that all ETs are good and it's the human military trying to undermine them (like with fake negative ET abductions).
The simplistic "MIL vs ET" narrative is disinfo setting up false Disclosure. Fact is, neither side stands to gain from faking abductions where ET is seen working with MIL. That these are happening, gives a peek behind the curtain. It shows that not only are they working together, but MIL might now be under the control of ET.
(By MIL, I primarily mean the shadow military and NGOs that hold the real power. Not so much the surface military fighting wars. To the public, it's all "mil/gov" though.)
So when Navy officials act all puzzled about UAPs and politicians are calling for investigations, consider that this is just surface appearances. There's a deeper agenda driving this rollout of ET Disclosure.
[CONTINUED IN COMMENTS]
From what I can tell, MIL and negative ET factions struck a deal in the 50s, engaged in joint projects, then some human personnel got tech/bio/psi upgrades to become more like ET, ET made hybrids to interface better with humans, then ET took control and now puppets the Deep State.
The Deep State is behind the biolabs that made COVID and pharmas who made the jabs. It's engaged in mind control, human trafficking, and organ harvesting - little different from what negative ET groups have been doing with abductions, mind control, human mutilations, organ harvesting, and worse. Because they are two ends of the same stick.
So is it any surprise that:
* Hillary Clinton (D) was termed the first 'E.T. candidate' (https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl...candidate/)
* John Podesta (D) who's one sick puppy if you've ever looked into him, has been a leading political figure in the Disclosure movement (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/...t-congress)
* Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) who was a lobbyist for the human-trafficking sex cult NXIVM, introduced an amendment to the NDAA to establish an office in the DoD to study UFOs. (https://thehill.com/opinion/national-sec...-study-of/)
The ET factor isn't a distraction from the social, political, biological war that's happening now. It's the very reason these things are happening. 3D human history is a subset of 4D alien hyperhistory, and the latter drives the first.
The Great Awakening vs. Great Reset is essentially a proxy war between ET factions waged on the battlefield of human consciousness.
[Cynics could argue that these are just two components of the same negative agenda. Even if so, the Great Awakening "ruse" provides an opportunity to destroy a part of the control system that deserves it, and whatever trap is to be sprung afterwards can be dealt with when we get there].
What's a distraction is mil/gov pretending it knows nothing about ETs and putting on press conferences and investigations acting all mystified about what these UAPs are. I see it partly as the public being acclimated to the ET reality, and partly as candy being held out by a child predator. The curiosity it arouses merely primes the public to accept an engineered narrative that serves alien interests.
That's why it's smarter to just research this on your own, instead of hanging on the findings of public officials.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl...candidate/
AbducteeJournal
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@montalk “Two ends of the same stick”! Valid that even if Great Awakening is the other side of the same coin it is a risky approach. Could have an unintended consequence of people not trusting either side and veering off in a new direction that “they” did not prepare for. Here’s hoping. I see this as not only a collective war but an individual spiritual war. If most fall for it, but a few don’t isn’t that still a win?
13laddyboy13
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@montalk
If this aspect of the experience ever becomes a known topic of conversation, are there any ideas about how people will vet the information? These things are not going to be believable but for the people who have experienced these experiences directly, their close associates and those with an open yet grounded mind.
I guess I am envisioning a scenario where there is some kind of "coming out" that is broadcast when people are finally told "truth". Personally, if it comes through a digital format I am less prone to open my mind to it. To bump it out a couple levels, any "disclosure" of truth, (ER, secret government, occluded history etc...) is going to have to be conveyed very carefully if the objective is to legitimately clue people in.
The gaslighting that has gone on for such a long time may have broken the truth meters in many people's minds.
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on the topic because in order to move forward, people will have to accept to some degree where we "came from".
QCroatia
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Jun 22
Dr Greer never said all ETs are good. Wtf? Been tracking him for years.
V for Victory
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@QCroatia Excerpt from an interview:
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"Question- I have a few questions about the version of the picture of the world you present. First of all: do aliens only come to us for a while or have they already firmly settled here?
Greer- No, these are reconnaissance missions. Since we began to test atomic weapons, the number of visits of extraterrestrial civilizations to our planet has definitely increased: they are clearly worried about our ability to destroy and our weapons of mass destruction. In the modern period of sightings of so-called UFOs, their number has increased markedly after we developed nuclear weapons and the hydrogen bomb.
This is a fact, and we have many witnesses who were involved in top-secret projects and were present at nuclear facilities where alien ships flew in to monitor our activities. Many people (in particular, science fiction writers, of course) have given us the idea of the risk of some kind of alien invasion or threat.
But everything is quite the opposite: we are considered a threat, now human civilization is perceived as unstable, unable to establish peace on the planet. This should have happened after the Second World War, but there is still no change for the better.
I think extraterrestrial intelligence is waiting for our civilization to mature, and until then it will not take open action, unless there is some kind of catastrophe."
https://anomalien.com/dr-steven-greer-al...-about-it/
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It seems like this is his current view as of 6-22-2022. If that is his current view of Aliens in general, then his view seems to ignore, whether by pure ignorance or on purpose, the plethora of information and evidence that points to humanity being "unstable, unable to establish peace on the planet" at least partly if not mostly, due to negative ET meddling. It ignores the millennia of manipulation and puppeteering that negative ETs have taken part of to keep their "livestock" in line.
So far I have not seen much evidence that tells me he does think negative Aliens have been messing around with humanity. And by "negative Aliens" I mean Aliens not controlled by any human.
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@guanajo @QCroatia Thanks for excerpting that interview.
QCroatia, you can find Greer saying this in many interviews.
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=munf25ZI...%A9g%C3%A9
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Now one person asked me once, "How can you prove that all of them aren't hostile?"
I said, "Well you can't prove a negative. It's axiomatic."
But I was asked this at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. During this meeting, the colonel finally at one point said, "Well how do you know that these intelligences from elsewhere aren't a threat us?"
I said, "Well, sir, given the galactically stupid things we have been doing, chasing them, firing at them, developing laser particle beam and other weapons systems and knocking enough of them down that you've been able to reverse-engineer them. If they were hostile and they have interstellar transportation technologies, it would have been point set match over in 1945, about the time we developed the atomic weapon. The fact that you and I are having this conversation and breathing the free air of Earth is abundant testimony to the fact that they are non-hostile even if they may not be pleased with our stupidity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that these civilizations are all together enthralled with what's going on on this planet. Who would be? Take a look around. But if they were overtly hostile it could be over in a nanosecond."
We have got to create teams all over the world that are skilled in the art of the CE5 (Close Encounters of the 5th Kind) protocols who go out on a regular basis and create in consciousness, but also in action, the ability for mass contact to happen that's peaceful before this [military industrial complex fake alien invasion] false flag creates the [disinformation that ETs are hostile] overlay.
So if more and more people start doing that, the ETS are going to get the message that not everyone on planet earth is sleepwalking. You see they need to see that.
They want us to invite them and create the correct atmosphere of universal peace in consciousness and action to make contact then they will come.
So that's what I'm calling for now, and then the other is all of us becoming ambassadors to the universe as citizen ambassadors. Peaceful contact. And that's something every single person can do in their own community. And if you do it and you practice it and learn what the protocols are you'll be quite stunned at what will happen. It's beautiful.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=munf25ZI...%A9g%C3%A9
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@guanajo @QCroatia Notice he says, "But if they were OVERTLY hostile it could be over in a nanosecond."
In the video, he purposely stresses the word "overtly." And that is true.
But he leaves out the possibility of covert hostility. That's his main disinfo trick.
If they were covertly hostile, which they are, Greer would be playing into their hands. So he just doesn't go there.
Instead he encourages everyone to dismiss any warnings and invite them in.
V for Victory
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Jun 22
@montalk @QCroatia Right. Those are BIG and in my opinion, dumb assumptions he is making. He is assuming that negative ETs think just like humans as that is what humans tend to do. Incredibly shortsighted if you ask me.
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Jun 24
@guanajo I don't see anything wrong with his choice of words. I don't know how you see it but this guy made UFO disclosure in 1999 with many military and secret service people that no network aired. They were all ignored. I don't know how people can jump to negative scenarios with people who are trying for years bring some kind of info on the matter. You are my friend in a loop. Sorry
V for Victory
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Jun 24
@QCroatia I don’t deny that he has spent much of his life trying to get humanity out of the UFO fog, but as Melinda said in that interview Tom posted “There can’t be a truthful official disclosure without addressing the abduction phenomenon.”
In essence, he seems to not want to really deal with the “800lb pink gorilla in the room”/the other half of the UFO equation. Sometimes it’s not what you say that matters the most, but what you don’t say. Just something to keep in mind as this “official disclosure“ slowly moves along.
Carissa Conti
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@QCroatia @montalk What you seem to only be seeing "QCroatia" is "Greer is bringing this information to the public, so that has to be good."
No, it doesn't automatically make it good. Not if A) He's ignoring 800 pound elephants in the room / skipping over vitally important information on a subject, and B) The information he *does* choose to address has an incorrect spin on it.
When somebody does that, which Greer has, then it's a problem. It shows that their intents are not honest. You have to discern and analyze.
Also, NOBODY makes it to the level that Greer has in this reality without them being in line with an agenda that serves negative forces. Greer is working with vapid, MK'd Hollywood starlets who don't even know their own gender sometimes.....what does that tell you? He's got these ding dongs believing it's a good thing to get in line with his "Summoning Aliens!" schtick...and they in turn are out there influencing their followers to fall in line. Greer is intricately linked to Hollywood in multiple ways, which right there should have tipped you off to some things about him, but not least of all through the use of MK'd Hollywood/entertainment industry starlets.
Any alien researchers who don't acknowledge the negative aliens? They're running an agenda. Any mainstream alien researchers who don't acknowledge that negative aliens are already here, and have infiltrated? They're running an agenda. Any mainstream alien researchers who won't acknowledge abductions? They're running an agenda. Any mainstream alien researchers who advocate the blind invitation and "summoning" of any and all aliens into their realities? They're running an agenda. Sincere researchers would be aware of the truth of this situation, because there would have been no way to NOT have come across this information that has been out there for decades, and they would be advocating *discernment.* (No pun intended for Montalk's book/free article series "Discerning Alien Disinformation." https://montalk.net/alien/145/discerning...ion-part-1 / https://montalk.net/books )
Nobody here is "jumping to negative scenarios" with Greer, especially Montalk, who's had a website on these matters since '99 and knows about Greer in depth. They're stating facts based on years of research, and being aware of who and what Greer really is. It's a conclusion you may not agree with......but it doesn't make it wrong, or somehow misinformed. It seems that in your years of following Greer you overlooked some serious red flags about this guy and have now made him a sacred cow, so to speak. I would highly recommend reading Montalk's "Discerning Alien Disinformation"to learn about how to better discern and analyze the mountains of alien research information that's out there, because much of the information, and the "researchers" peddling it, are disinfo pawns.
People should know about the military abductions of humans (MILABs).
Melinda Leslie put together a pretty comprehensive presentation on MILABs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTsNwaTvm0c
While there are pure ET abductions, and purely human military abductions, there are also joint projects between ET and MIL involving abduction, experimentation, and mind control.
Such collusion is a big deal because it destroys the narrative of those like Greer that all ETs are good and it's the human military trying to undermine them (like with fake negative ET abductions).
The simplistic "MIL vs ET" narrative is disinfo setting up false Disclosure. Fact is, neither side stands to gain from faking abductions where ET is seen working with MIL. That these are happening, gives a peek behind the curtain. It shows that not only are they working together, but MIL might now be under the control of ET.
(By MIL, I primarily mean the shadow military and NGOs that hold the real power. Not so much the surface military fighting wars. To the public, it's all "mil/gov" though.)
So when Navy officials act all puzzled about UAPs and politicians are calling for investigations, consider that this is just surface appearances. There's a deeper agenda driving this rollout of ET Disclosure.
[CONTINUED IN COMMENTS]
From what I can tell, MIL and negative ET factions struck a deal in the 50s, engaged in joint projects, then some human personnel got tech/bio/psi upgrades to become more like ET, ET made hybrids to interface better with humans, then ET took control and now puppets the Deep State.
The Deep State is behind the biolabs that made COVID and pharmas who made the jabs. It's engaged in mind control, human trafficking, and organ harvesting - little different from what negative ET groups have been doing with abductions, mind control, human mutilations, organ harvesting, and worse. Because they are two ends of the same stick.
So is it any surprise that:
* Hillary Clinton (D) was termed the first 'E.T. candidate' (https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl...candidate/)
* John Podesta (D) who's one sick puppy if you've ever looked into him, has been a leading political figure in the Disclosure movement (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/...t-congress)
* Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) who was a lobbyist for the human-trafficking sex cult NXIVM, introduced an amendment to the NDAA to establish an office in the DoD to study UFOs. (https://thehill.com/opinion/national-sec...-study-of/)
The ET factor isn't a distraction from the social, political, biological war that's happening now. It's the very reason these things are happening. 3D human history is a subset of 4D alien hyperhistory, and the latter drives the first.
The Great Awakening vs. Great Reset is essentially a proxy war between ET factions waged on the battlefield of human consciousness.
[Cynics could argue that these are just two components of the same negative agenda. Even if so, the Great Awakening "ruse" provides an opportunity to destroy a part of the control system that deserves it, and whatever trap is to be sprung afterwards can be dealt with when we get there].
What's a distraction is mil/gov pretending it knows nothing about ETs and putting on press conferences and investigations acting all mystified about what these UAPs are. I see it partly as the public being acclimated to the ET reality, and partly as candy being held out by a child predator. The curiosity it arouses merely primes the public to accept an engineered narrative that serves alien interests.
That's why it's smarter to just research this on your own, instead of hanging on the findings of public officials.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl...candidate/
AbducteeJournal
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@montalk “Two ends of the same stick”! Valid that even if Great Awakening is the other side of the same coin it is a risky approach. Could have an unintended consequence of people not trusting either side and veering off in a new direction that “they” did not prepare for. Here’s hoping. I see this as not only a collective war but an individual spiritual war. If most fall for it, but a few don’t isn’t that still a win?
13laddyboy13
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Jun 22
@montalk
If this aspect of the experience ever becomes a known topic of conversation, are there any ideas about how people will vet the information? These things are not going to be believable but for the people who have experienced these experiences directly, their close associates and those with an open yet grounded mind.
I guess I am envisioning a scenario where there is some kind of "coming out" that is broadcast when people are finally told "truth". Personally, if it comes through a digital format I am less prone to open my mind to it. To bump it out a couple levels, any "disclosure" of truth, (ER, secret government, occluded history etc...) is going to have to be conveyed very carefully if the objective is to legitimately clue people in.
The gaslighting that has gone on for such a long time may have broken the truth meters in many people's minds.
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on the topic because in order to move forward, people will have to accept to some degree where we "came from".
QCroatia
@QCroatia
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Jun 22
Dr Greer never said all ETs are good. Wtf? Been tracking him for years.
V for Victory
@guanajo
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Jun 22
@QCroatia Excerpt from an interview:
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"Question- I have a few questions about the version of the picture of the world you present. First of all: do aliens only come to us for a while or have they already firmly settled here?
Greer- No, these are reconnaissance missions. Since we began to test atomic weapons, the number of visits of extraterrestrial civilizations to our planet has definitely increased: they are clearly worried about our ability to destroy and our weapons of mass destruction. In the modern period of sightings of so-called UFOs, their number has increased markedly after we developed nuclear weapons and the hydrogen bomb.
This is a fact, and we have many witnesses who were involved in top-secret projects and were present at nuclear facilities where alien ships flew in to monitor our activities. Many people (in particular, science fiction writers, of course) have given us the idea of the risk of some kind of alien invasion or threat.
But everything is quite the opposite: we are considered a threat, now human civilization is perceived as unstable, unable to establish peace on the planet. This should have happened after the Second World War, but there is still no change for the better.
I think extraterrestrial intelligence is waiting for our civilization to mature, and until then it will not take open action, unless there is some kind of catastrophe."
https://anomalien.com/dr-steven-greer-al...-about-it/
-------------------
It seems like this is his current view as of 6-22-2022. If that is his current view of Aliens in general, then his view seems to ignore, whether by pure ignorance or on purpose, the plethora of information and evidence that points to humanity being "unstable, unable to establish peace on the planet" at least partly if not mostly, due to negative ET meddling. It ignores the millennia of manipulation and puppeteering that negative ETs have taken part of to keep their "livestock" in line.
So far I have not seen much evidence that tells me he does think negative Aliens have been messing around with humanity. And by "negative Aliens" I mean Aliens not controlled by any human.
Montalk
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@guanajo @QCroatia Thanks for excerpting that interview.
QCroatia, you can find Greer saying this in many interviews.
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=munf25ZI...%A9g%C3%A9
======= Excerpt ======
Now one person asked me once, "How can you prove that all of them aren't hostile?"
I said, "Well you can't prove a negative. It's axiomatic."
But I was asked this at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. During this meeting, the colonel finally at one point said, "Well how do you know that these intelligences from elsewhere aren't a threat us?"
I said, "Well, sir, given the galactically stupid things we have been doing, chasing them, firing at them, developing laser particle beam and other weapons systems and knocking enough of them down that you've been able to reverse-engineer them. If they were hostile and they have interstellar transportation technologies, it would have been point set match over in 1945, about the time we developed the atomic weapon. The fact that you and I are having this conversation and breathing the free air of Earth is abundant testimony to the fact that they are non-hostile even if they may not be pleased with our stupidity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that these civilizations are all together enthralled with what's going on on this planet. Who would be? Take a look around. But if they were overtly hostile it could be over in a nanosecond."
We have got to create teams all over the world that are skilled in the art of the CE5 (Close Encounters of the 5th Kind) protocols who go out on a regular basis and create in consciousness, but also in action, the ability for mass contact to happen that's peaceful before this [military industrial complex fake alien invasion] false flag creates the [disinformation that ETs are hostile] overlay.
So if more and more people start doing that, the ETS are going to get the message that not everyone on planet earth is sleepwalking. You see they need to see that.
They want us to invite them and create the correct atmosphere of universal peace in consciousness and action to make contact then they will come.
So that's what I'm calling for now, and then the other is all of us becoming ambassadors to the universe as citizen ambassadors. Peaceful contact. And that's something every single person can do in their own community. And if you do it and you practice it and learn what the protocols are you'll be quite stunned at what will happen. It's beautiful.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=munf25ZI...%A9g%C3%A9
Montalk
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Jun 22
@guanajo @QCroatia Notice he says, "But if they were OVERTLY hostile it could be over in a nanosecond."
In the video, he purposely stresses the word "overtly." And that is true.
But he leaves out the possibility of covert hostility. That's his main disinfo trick.
If they were covertly hostile, which they are, Greer would be playing into their hands. So he just doesn't go there.
Instead he encourages everyone to dismiss any warnings and invite them in.
V for Victory
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Jun 22
@montalk @QCroatia Right. Those are BIG and in my opinion, dumb assumptions he is making. He is assuming that negative ETs think just like humans as that is what humans tend to do. Incredibly shortsighted if you ask me.
QCroatia
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Jun 24
@guanajo I don't see anything wrong with his choice of words. I don't know how you see it but this guy made UFO disclosure in 1999 with many military and secret service people that no network aired. They were all ignored. I don't know how people can jump to negative scenarios with people who are trying for years bring some kind of info on the matter. You are my friend in a loop. Sorry
V for Victory
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Jun 24
@QCroatia I don’t deny that he has spent much of his life trying to get humanity out of the UFO fog, but as Melinda said in that interview Tom posted “There can’t be a truthful official disclosure without addressing the abduction phenomenon.”
In essence, he seems to not want to really deal with the “800lb pink gorilla in the room”/the other half of the UFO equation. Sometimes it’s not what you say that matters the most, but what you don’t say. Just something to keep in mind as this “official disclosure“ slowly moves along.
Carissa Conti
@Carissa_Conti
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Jun 24
@QCroatia @montalk What you seem to only be seeing "QCroatia" is "Greer is bringing this information to the public, so that has to be good."
No, it doesn't automatically make it good. Not if A) He's ignoring 800 pound elephants in the room / skipping over vitally important information on a subject, and B) The information he *does* choose to address has an incorrect spin on it.
When somebody does that, which Greer has, then it's a problem. It shows that their intents are not honest. You have to discern and analyze.
Also, NOBODY makes it to the level that Greer has in this reality without them being in line with an agenda that serves negative forces. Greer is working with vapid, MK'd Hollywood starlets who don't even know their own gender sometimes.....what does that tell you? He's got these ding dongs believing it's a good thing to get in line with his "Summoning Aliens!" schtick...and they in turn are out there influencing their followers to fall in line. Greer is intricately linked to Hollywood in multiple ways, which right there should have tipped you off to some things about him, but not least of all through the use of MK'd Hollywood/entertainment industry starlets.
Any alien researchers who don't acknowledge the negative aliens? They're running an agenda. Any mainstream alien researchers who don't acknowledge that negative aliens are already here, and have infiltrated? They're running an agenda. Any mainstream alien researchers who won't acknowledge abductions? They're running an agenda. Any mainstream alien researchers who advocate the blind invitation and "summoning" of any and all aliens into their realities? They're running an agenda. Sincere researchers would be aware of the truth of this situation, because there would have been no way to NOT have come across this information that has been out there for decades, and they would be advocating *discernment.* (No pun intended for Montalk's book/free article series "Discerning Alien Disinformation." https://montalk.net/alien/145/discerning...ion-part-1 / https://montalk.net/books )
Nobody here is "jumping to negative scenarios" with Greer, especially Montalk, who's had a website on these matters since '99 and knows about Greer in depth. They're stating facts based on years of research, and being aware of who and what Greer really is. It's a conclusion you may not agree with......but it doesn't make it wrong, or somehow misinformed. It seems that in your years of following Greer you overlooked some serious red flags about this guy and have now made him a sacred cow, so to speak. I would highly recommend reading Montalk's "Discerning Alien Disinformation"to learn about how to better discern and analyze the mountains of alien research information that's out there, because much of the information, and the "researchers" peddling it, are disinfo pawns.