My Experience With Meditation

[SilverInfinity]

Today I meditated on the royal blue circle and dot at the pineal gland while sitting in lotus position, but then faced surprisingly unpleasant experiences.  After a few minutes of meditation, I slipped into a paralysis.  It was the most unpleasant.  I saw only pitch black, felt out-of-sync, but could not "move" beyond my body.  However, I was even more unpleasant after hearing a moaning sound when I calmy reminded myself that possessions can occur in this state!  But I could not snap out of the state without momentarily struggling and enduring the groans.


The paralysis and pitch blackness did not scare me as they were familiar experiences of mine.  But the moaning triggered immense fear when I was calmy reminding myself of possessions.

[Guest]

Silver Infinity:

Well done! You are very gifted. Very. Remember the state with the paralysis. As this is the state they put you
during programming with electronic devices.

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[user=4]SilverInfinity[/user] wrote:

Today I meditated on the royal blue circle and dot at the pineal gland while sitting in lotus position, but then faced surprisingly unpleasant experiences.  After a few minutes of meditation, I slipped into a paralysis when I saw only pitch black.  Furthermore, when I calmy reminded myself that possessions can occur in this state, I heard a moaning sound!  I tried, but could not snap out of the state:  I felt myself out of sync with the physical body but couldn't move beyond the body. 


The moaning abruptly triggered immense fear.  But when I woke, I felt energetic and focused.

I did lots and lots of oobes and know of others who did too. I know of no single case where possession has occurred. Possession happens not that easy as a lot of energy is needed, like in a ritual, but then it is not a matter of being in the astral space. The so called possessed people you see during exorcising sessions are really just badly dissociated people. Dissociation may happen when you do not ground yourself well, so you never really come 'back'. A part of you then may go out of control.

But it is likely that you can bombarded with energies in the astral space, that can affect you negatively. So you have to used lots and lots of protection when going there.

[user=4]SilverInfinity[/user] wrote

I felt myself out of sync with the physical body but couldn't move beyond the body. 

You are willing too much. You move it by just thinking, if you are willing too much you may contract some muscles and not be able to leave the body. Gently drift out of it.

The moaning: That could be everything from a being making noises to things that come up  from your subconsciousness. Or memories. I guess, it could have even been your body (breath), as it was running on auto-pilot.  Always stay protected. Maybe use the triple golden ultimate protection for such
travels. And call your higher self to guide you.


Again, well done.

[SilverInfinity]

Hi Kris,

Thank you for telling me that possessions aren't possible in the astral realm.  And thank you for explaning everything.  I needed your first hand experiences.  :)  And I especially needed reassurances.  Now that I feel more comfortable with the mysteries gone...

I will try letting go more and possibly even venturing into the hyperspace plane.

[Guest]

Hi Kris,

Thank you for telling me that possessions aren't possible in the astral realm.  And thank you for explaning everything.  I needed your first hand experiences.  :)  And I especially needed reassurances.  Now that I feel more comfortable with the mysteries gone...

I will try letting go more and possibly even venturing into the hyperspace plane.

But know that many people differ on my viewpoint, but I think that is a fear issue. Here are further explanations on my viewpoints (and experience):

Possessions are possible, but I (and many others) haven't experienced any of them during oobes. There are people in the magickal literature who stated that this happened, but their descriptions of oobes told me that they didn't know what they were talking about.

Possessions mostly happen during ceremonies, but that is a take over of the body for a short time. Even then it's your body and you can take over if you are conscious and aware. The body fits your frequency and not that of any other being, except a being being YOU in another reality.

And for a logical explanation: Most people have oobes during sleep (if not all) and they are not aware of it. There should happen more possessions, if that was the case during oobe, because these people are not even conscious of their oobe state. But it doesn't happen. In your case  you are aware of  what happens and awareness is the key. Next step for your awareness adventure is analyzing the fear.

There could be attacks though (just as during your in-body states).

I could tell you more about the latter, but don't want to do so in a forum as it is the realm of programming and ceremonies also.

Oobe states happen and are natural and they should not be compulsively avoided because of fear of anything.

Venturing the hyperspace plane is probably better, but as you seem to be able to do oobes easily, you have done it often anyway and should not worry too much. Just stay protected. You are probably important for 'them' having that ability.

Put those experiences into the most restricted part of the forum if you want to tell about it. I am thinking about cats right now. :)

[SilverInfinity]

I have a large fear of possessions because

a)  Stewart said that during an OBE, astral dracos can steal your soul.
     (Although elsewhere he mentioned they easily steal the weak individual souls, he did not mention OOBE's)

b)  Someone was possessed right in front of me (I was not mistaken since the spirit's voice shattered the entire room.  The possession was only temporarily though).


But your logical explanation gave me more reasons to face the fear.  Thanks.

[William]

    I believe you can get in trouble and even be possessed in the Astral realm. 

     From Stewart:

   Both the government and very negative alien groups use the lower astral levels for their work. Therefore, it is not a very safe place to be even with protection. The government uses technology to access the astral planes. If you spend time there you would be occupied mostly with protection rather than learning anything. Better to just go into hyperspace. Hope this answers your question. "


  Please study more on this subject.  If im wrong let me know!  :)

  OOBE's can be Astral or Hyperspace.   You cannot be overtaken if you dont want it.    the paralysis could also mean you have left your body and its working on its own until you get fully back. 

[William]

Dear Stewart,
If I may quickly ask you, do you believe that people can be possessed by ghosts or people who have not passed over. If so in an exorcism type clearing would one send the person or entity, ghost to the Gold or Violet light not the White light, it seems that everyone is sending these entities to the White light, but I take it that this is an incorrect procedure. I have heard that possessions can cause alsorts of misfortune and mental and emotional dilemma's in one's life.
Thanking you,
Blessings,


From Stewart:

A person can only be "possessed" by an entity that is of the same Oversoul. That is the only way it can be part of the body and even this can only happen if the "occupant" allows it. Other beings can mind-control a person without actually possessing the body. The way to remove any of this is either via deprogramming, release work and flushing with gold and violet. Oversoul work is also important. 
 

[SilverInfinity]

Thank you William for taking the time to search up the info :thumbsup:

[William]

  I think Kris Kringle's info is valid and very good.  I would like to hear more sometime from him when he has the time about this stuff.

:)

[Guest]

    I believe you can get in trouble and even be possessed in the Astral realm. 

     From Stewart:

   [size="2"]Both the government and very negative alien groups use the lower astral levels for their work. Therefore, it is not a very safe place to be even with protection. The government uses technology to access the astral planes. If you spend time there you would be occupied mostly with protection rather than learning anything. Better to just go into hyperspace. Hope this answers your question. "[/size]


 

Well, actually physical reality is lower lower astral plane. The govt uses technology to even access physical reality, astral space and hyperspace. You can believe that you can be possessd in astral space, but I have never seen this to be the case. A part of you is constantly in astral space.

  Please study more on this subject.  If im wrong let me know!  :)

I write out of experience. I cannot state anything else, because then I would lie. I don't have to study what I master. Edit (sorry for the above stupid sentence) : Better say 'what I have done until it got boring'. I found out that physical reality is much more interesting. :)

Would like to add: Of course, it is always better to be cautious. You are not 'wrong' there. I know my viewpoint sounds weird. :)