My Seth topic (Jane Roberts)

[Damo]

Well im new to these forums, but not new to the subjects/topics discussed here.  I've taken an extended break from my metaphysics study to battle with the dramas of real life for a while.  Now returning back to where I started with a much greater understanding of the material I once schooled myself with many years ago.  Anyway.......

The Seth books as channled by Jane Roberts, Seth Speaks - The eternal validity of the soul to be exact, is where I started my journey.  I am in the midst of going back and reading all the books again and at the same time im making a catalogue of the excercises for my own personal reference. 

I started this topic to familiarise new people to the Seth books and also to give the people who have read them a little reminder they are still around :)  They hold a wealth of valuable information that any individual (ego based) personality can relate and learn from.

Personally I think the Seth books are the best source of metaphysic information that i have ever found because they really stay away from the ideas of organised religion or any other dogmas for that matter.  I can reccomend Seth to anyone wanting to learn more about the nature of the reality that stands before, around and inside all of us.

Please use this topic as a place to discuss, explore and share personal experience relating to the nature of personal reality ( I tried my best to stay away from that phrase because it is the title of another Seth book, but it just describes what im trying to say to perfectly not to =) or if you like, simply pass through taking a glimpse of what i've written :)

I would love to hear about any experiences you've had with any of the excercises Seth presents in his books and from anyone who took my advice and decided to give them a try.

[Damo]

So I thought as im reading the books when I come across some nice quotes i'd just post them here, makes the topic a bit more interesting and I get to share some wonderful insights =)

"If you hate illness you may bring upon yourself a succeeding life of illness, because the hate has drawn it to you. If you expand your sense of love, of health, and existence, then you are drawn in this life and in others toward those qualities; again, because they are those upon which you concentrate. A generation that hates war will not bring peace. A generation that loves peace will bring peace. To die with hatred for any cause or people, or for any reason, is a great disadvantage."

[Damo]

"The production of dreams is as "sophisticated" an endeavor as is the production of the objective life of a given individual. It is simply living on different terms. These various stages of consciousness and fluctuations of psychic activity can also be examined through direct experience from the waking state."

[William]

I grew up reading the Seth books. I thought for the time they were and still are amazing.

However, seth was Not allowed to really touch apon what this world is really going through so that is/was the biggest problem. But I still do like to read them!

[Damo]

Not allowed? I'd love you to expand upon that, im not quite sure I understand :)

Mind you I don't try to take Seth's teachings as the be all and end all, I wouldn't be being true to myself if I did that. Rather im trying to incorporate the excercises and insights into my everyday living to strive to look inside for the answers myself. I think with time, patience, perseverance and practice, i'll be able to explore depths of the psyche presently unknown to my waking self.

Thats just my opinion though from the research i've done over the years. I always love hearing other peoples take on things too. For I sincerely believe what each of us perceives to be real, is.

I think Jane Roberts books are a good starting point for people who want answers to questions about our existence. I feel the books give you the tools to delve inside your being and answer the questions for yourself.

Ten years ago I gave up on the work I was doing with the Seth books and I was making great progress and seeing results. I've started again right from the start and I plan to see it all through this time(for however many years it takes me to achieve what I want). I'll keep this topic up to date with information on how things are progressing for me.  I plan to use this topic as a diary of sorts of my experiences. I have no esoteric skills (which my waking self knows of)presently and if I can start to see results again, I want other people like myself to know they can do it too.

So far i've only started with the excercises in Seth speaks and i've started a dream journal again for the last two days. I havn't recalled a dream yet, but I know it is only a matter of time, I came close both mornings the dreams were on the tip of my tongue but I couldn't quite get them. I used to be able to remember up to two or three dreams vividly every morning and record them in detail daily. I also could lucid dream and manipulate my surroundings in dream states from time to time. I realise that is not a very big accomplishment but I feel I have the tools to take those skills to the next level too.   I know most people here are probably far past this point, but hopefully some people out there might find my research beneficial. 

I'm very excited to be embarking on this work once again, more mature with a more realistic expectation of results i'll get this time too. I wanted to much to soon last time and gave up because I didn't gain what I wanted straight away.

By the way great forum you all have here, im glad I stumbled upon it.

[Damo]

End of week 1:

So I did alot of work this week and will continue to do so, with trying to perceive and be open to my inner senses.  Last night I had my first awake experience with an altered state of conciousness and also yesterday morning I remembered my first vivd dream.  Im very pleased with my progress so far.

I did not become aware of my dream state, but upon waking I did remember and record my dream in detail, something I have not done in about 8 years.  I plan to do this every morning, although this morning I did not recall anything, not even a hint.  Might be due to the fact I was artificially woken thanks to my alarm clock :)

Last night before sleeping as I was drifting off and caught my mind wandering to to another state of conciousness.  I could see quite clearly what felt like a friend of mine, but did not look like anyone I could recognise.  As soon as I realised what was going on, it felt like I was turning my waking self around to focus fully on this person and he just started to fade into the blackness (I had my eyes closed).  I could see his image fading the more my ego was aware of what i was doing.  Im very happy with that and with practice my goal is to have my conciousness manouver freely within altered states like that one.

I can only smile at thinking what week two has to bring for me :)

[Damo]

End of week 2:

Wow, what an exciting week!! I just happened to start back in my normal routine this week doing my degree, so I was a little lazy when it came to recording my dreams. I didnt actually write any down, but three times this week I had very vivid dreams where I remembered things in detail.

Now the exciting bits came about from my practice of letting myself become more open to the universe (inner not outer). I still have been doing certain excercises at times of the day and they are helping in my journey immensely. I had one very vivid encounter just before sleep on night with a person who I felt to be a friend, but physically I could not recognise. I was drifting off when this happened and when my waking ego realised what was happening, it felt like I started to focus with my waking physical sense on this friend. I had my eyes closed the whole time and then the friend started to fade away into the black, very happy with that.   Practice makes perfect ;)  Anyways.....

The best thing that happened this week happened while visiting my partner and children, they live in another town at the moment. After arriving and putting the kids to bed for the night (it was late when I got there) and spending time with my girl talking and catching up (mostly talking about the work i'm doing here) we went to bed. We were talking again about something, i can't rememeber what, but I started out of nowhere to sing the theme song to the greatest american hero. It just randomly appeared in there. She gasped and looked at me in a semi state of shock. Apparently all day at their house the kids had been singing that song and she was quite shocked to hear me sing it. It had been driving her crazy all day she said lol :D  She had never actually heard the song before, never seen greatest american hero, only heard the kids sing it that day and now I was sitting there singing the lyrics lol. Now we tried to remember if i'd heard it at all since we got home and I definatly hadn't, she hadn't left my side either since we got home so she knew neither of the kids even mentioned it while I was their. Im so happy with this breakthrough!!! =) It is one I definatly would not have picked up on if my partner hadn't of been there. It ties in perfectly with one of the excercises of conciouness im doing at the moment which is to look at the those random thoughts that go through your head everyday and take notice. That song would have slipped by and I wouldn't of even given it another thought, not knowing my kids had been around singing the very same thing all day. I hadn't even heard that song for years, but it turns out they had just learned it last week at school in choir. Now i know for most of you on these forums, something like this will be of little revelation. But as far as my work goes here, it was an excellent breakthrough.

I have just been feeling more connected to everything since I have taken up my quest again and it has started to show in the expereinces i'm having day to day. You know those things that you go "woooahh, feaky". Well they are happening more frequently and the best thing about it is I know that they are not freaky, it is just how things are supposed to be.

My message to anyone out there who might stumble across this thread and may wish to venture on a similar path is to post here and i can help point you in a direction if needed. Or PM me, because I always have time to talk.

I think there is no right way or wrong way to go. One persons perception of reality may not be the same as another persons version but there is no reason why one isn't just as valid as the other.

Cheers guys, if anyone actually reads this stuff lol :) Hopefully week three is just as exciting as this one. See ya

[Damo]

Middle of week 2:

Well I normally don't intend to update in the middle of the week but I just experienced a state of consciousness totally foreign to me and it blew me away a bit really :)

If you've read Seth Speaks very recently like I have, you will see alot of what I have just experienced is explained there.

For starters this is the first time I really truly experimented with a sleeping pattern described in Seth speaks. Only by chance it came about I got four hours sleep last night because I had to work until 4am. I finished my daily routine about 2pm today and came home and felt a little tired, so very out of character for me, I just got straight into bed, started one of my excercises and drifted off to sleep for a couple of hours. After about two and a half hours I woke up, looked at the time and still felt a little groggy. Before I knew anything I had slipped into another level of consciousness. I was manipulating in an environment I had never seen before, it was like a dream state but so much more. At the time I was having the experience as far as I knew it was just a normal dream and took no notice, let me just say here that I did not become lucid at any time here either.

What I did at the start of the experience is a little hazy, but I remember a party or something and then I went to bed. After waking in the dream state from the night before I couldn't see and everything was very foreign indeed. It was like I was trying to use my physical sense of sight like in normal dreams but this was no normal dream. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't focus and after a while I started to get very frustrated. Although I did try for what felt like quite some time, to correct myself. Then a 'helper' came along and then my waking self translated what happened as he took me into what felt like another room. While I was in the hallway I felt things becoming ok again and then once I got to the room I could see and things felt familiar again.

I started dreaming like I normally do, I interacted with a couple of people. And then got talking to someone who took me back down the hallway and into what felt like that room again. Instantly I could feel out of place again, I couldn't see and the exact same things happened again. In the dream state none of what was happening to me became obvious, but this time after giving up try to see properly, my consciousness abruptly jumped back into my waking self and I woke up with one of those "OMG what just happened" feelings. I lol now thinking of it. Around half an hour of physical time had passed since I drifted off for the second time.

So now I can see I was working in another level of reality, well practicing really and I had personalities around helping me find my feet. I didn't know what happened when I first woke up, but after waking and exploring the thoughts in my head, it all became so clear to me.

I love it, I feel like an astronaut just about to embark on a mission to explore the galaxy. So exciting :)

::EDIT::  I just remembered something from the start of the experience.  I was dreaming and watching tv with one of my flat mates and I was cuddling up closing my eyes trying to fall asleep but I couldnt, sometimes in physical reality I don't nod off easily and maybe this was translated into my dream.  That must of been when I woke up.  When I went back into the experience I was in a party and drinking alot of alcohol and having fun.  I got very drunk and that is when I went into my flat mates room to fall asleep, which I did quite easily at that stage because I was so intoxicated :) When I woke up is when I found myself in that odd environment.  Like I had to fall asleep in the dream state to wake up in the dream, in a dream.  ooooo I love it, lol.

It's so exciting to my waking ego the possibilites of consciousness in the universe.  I know my true self knows of these, but it is so much fun rediscorvering them for my waking self.