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Iââ¬â¢ve watched a lot of the Bullsh*t shows but havenââ¬â¢t seen the one with Icke. Iââ¬â¢ll have to try and watch that one. I use to like Penn & Teller until I seen their Bullsh*t series. Those 2 are so full of sh*t and their shows are slanted. It is easy to see they are Illuminati agents that are programmed to deceive people.
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OIK.... I think I mentioned that I was a kinda closet magician.... But I could never watch these guys, penn and teller..... I love magicians, remember the show Bill Bixby starred in, The Magician.... I thought Doug Henning creeped me out too. And i cant stand that so called Illusionist ....Wait, I think they all creeped me out. Bill Bixby was an actor but he was a cool James Bond with Magical excapes kinda crime solver and wooop pulled a coin out of yer ear mam., Mcgyver was kinda a copy of The magician but Mcgyver could make a bomb outta an old toilet paper roll, some dental floss, and a piece of sticky half eaten gum. Yet I kinda liked the movie Penn and Teller did called "Kill Penn and Teller.... er somfin like that. To illiterate further, I think Ive hated every Magician out there...... But, A True Wizard..yes........ Deep fathoming eyes, shifting, keeping shadows, throwing stones, runes of steps down crawling cobblestones. The torch burns, someone shouts "Crack the Torches" and the dream splits, tearing streams of forgotten echoes, Lost.......
UUUHHH what was the topic?
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Has any of you ever heard Teller talk?
For some unknown reason Penn seem to be doing all the talking...while Teller behave like a mute.
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People say that Teller talks anytime that he isnââ¬â¢t on stage. Pretending to be a mute is just part of their stage act.
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I ran across this new article on Penn & Teller. :)
Penn & Teller - Masters Of Deception
In my part time work in the post-production industry, I often get a chance to see soon-to-be released T.V. shows and films, but most of the time, itââ¬â¢s re-runs. This week, for instance, I saw a couple of old episodes of the Penn & Teller Showtime trainwreck entitled Bullshit! The duo, who have been performing magicians for decades now, somehow felt compelled to bring their philosophical beliefs to the small screen. In 1994, before they began their residence in Las Vegas, I was entertained and fascinated by their stage show. Theyââ¬â¢re consummate showmen and put on a top-notch act. I even have a copy of their 1989 book Cruel Tricks For Dear Friends, and itââ¬â¢s a riot.
Unfortunately, their hero is aging magician James Randi. Randi used to be on the governing board of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP), until he made one too many statements about psychics that had nothing to do with investigating their claims, and were beginning to bury CSICOP under a mountain of libel suits. He was given his walking papers by the group many years ago. Taking the sometimes unscientific methods of CSICOP one step further, Penn & Teller (P&T) use their pay-TV pulpit to smear and denigrate those who dare to dabble in the fields of Ufology, cryptozoology, remote viewing, and other arcane areas. To be sure, there are many charlatans, liars, addle-headed believers and worse in these fields of inquiry, and P&T are right to point them out for ridicule.
These magicians have been deceiving people for most of their livesââ¬âitââ¬â¢s part of their act and they revel in it. The problem with this attitude is that P&T assume that anyone who is trying to promote or investigate subjects outside the realm of 19th century science is doing the same thing. Like the high-priests of CSICOP, their minds are made up before the study begins. They make a small show of applying the scientific method that they worship, but the program is basically an excuse to laugh at those who are assumed to be less sophisticated and intelligent than the hosts or the viewing audience.
The episode I happened to see this week actually featured our friend Nick Redfern poking around a haunted house with a couple of other ââ¬Åghost huntersââ¬Â while Penn Jillette (the member of the duo who speaks) makes fun of just about everything they say. My guess is that if either P or T actually saw a ghost, they would either assume that someone was playing a trick on them, or it would quickly be filed away in their minds as a non-event.
Possibly the most egregious example of their duplicity is the episode that was taped during the 2003 Bay Area UFO Conference for a show on alien abductions. I have been told by those who attended that conclave that the producers of Bullshit! told the organizers that they were there to do a serious program on UFOs for Showtime. Everyone who appeared on camera signed a release with this assumption. Barbara Lamb, a licensed mental-health professional who does hypnotic regressions with supposed abductees was called (if I remember correctly) a ââ¬Åmoney-grubbing old bit*hââ¬Â in another voice-over by Jillette. Although I disagree with the vast majority of researchers who use regression to uncover possible memories of UFO encounters, referring to Lamb (whom I know as a sincere and caring person) as a ââ¬Åbit*hââ¬Â is probably a bit out of line.
In the shows Iââ¬â¢ve seen, the hosts never appear on camera with the subjects of their wrath. Why is this? Are they afraid to engage in a straight debate, (many of which they would probably ââ¬Åwinââ¬Â) or are they more like small boys who leave a flaming paper bag full of dog crap on someoneââ¬â¢s doorstep, ring the bell, and run?
The usual modus operandi that the producers (and hosts) of Bullshit! have exhibited is to present the most outlandish and ridiculous proponents of whatever it is they have set their sights, and present it as the whole of the phenomenon being examined. This is why I refer to it as the ââ¬ÅShooting Fish In A Barrel Show.ââ¬Â These people are not educating us, they are dumbing us down, along with many of the paranormal TV programs they rail against. ââ¬ÅParanormalââ¬Â means ââ¬Åoutside of the normal,ââ¬Â and the ââ¬Ånormalââ¬Â has been changing for thousands of years. Why the evolution of thought and science should come to a reverent halt with our generation is beyond me.
Postscript: One thing I found very interesting in their program on ESP was a short clip of remote viewing pioneer Dr. Russell Targ. To my disbelief, he appeared on screen for a few seconds and said something to the effect of ââ¬ÅI donââ¬â¢t want to say anything, because youââ¬â¢ll edit my words to make me look bad.ââ¬Â
http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-th...paranormal
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Blah. Penn creeps me out. :puke:
I watched him give a tour of his house in Las Vegas ...on a show on the Travel channel...and he showed right off the bedroom a small chamber ---- a bondage room. I think the walls were either dark red or painted black --- He had some equipment in there and an electric chair. The home looks like a prison from the outside. I'm not kidding.
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Penn does seem like a creepy guy. I can imagine he is into all kinds of strange things. icon_eek
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Sometime whenever Penn is trying to pass a message, he uses misdirection or misdirected imagery....such as juggling....show silly scene....
These things seem to distract the audiance....while he's talkin in a background....sayin somethings
This is a kind subliminal experience....
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