Predator Mentality

[Mercy Now]

With the knowledge that at least one, if not a population ,of mountain lion visit my property understanding their mentality has become necessary. This has been most beneficial.  

  Since victim mentality is often discussed here I thought it might be of some interest and benefit to discuss predator mentality as well. 

Anyone care to join in?  Any observations or insights about predators of any kind be they critter or human ? 

[Astrojewels]

Interesting topic MN, how are you going with that mountain lion?

It is wise to be cautious of those who have the predator mentality, because it generally is associated to men, (only a small amount of women have this mentality), and to have it you are usually anti-social, intelligent, and very patient, the predator mentality seeks the interaction of spying, watching and waiting and not the actual catch, it is a different mentality to the hunter or one that must perform the act of predator to actually hunt. This mentality has also been associated to men that have mummy issues, as they always pick their target as a person that is physically weaker than them, predators do not want to fight or battle.

The only animal I can think of is that of the cat family, they are terrible predators and you never see a cat about to stomp on a dog, no no, it must be a bird or rodent, etc.

do you know anyone like this?

[Mercy Now]

  I haven't seen the mountain lion again but I have heard it. That scream literally sends shivers up your back and puts the hairs on the back of your neck on end. Also I have seen it's track. Since the TV interview, which was posted on the station's website as well,there have been several people who have come forward from the immediate area and surrounding areas, to say that they have seen a mountain lion as well. One of those local people has a daytime pic.Another fellow lives across the river from me. He has seen it twice ,once chasing his horses in their paddock.He now carries a gun and urged me to do the same as did the tracker guy. The tracker doesn't want to see it killed but is concerned for our safety due to all the barns.I have 3 barns and they have been known to hang out in barns. The fellow across the river  and I have both discovered deep ,large depressions in old hay that is in our barns. Mountain lions have no qualms about attacking something that is larger than them. Their main source of food in this area would be deer of which there are plenty but they are opportunist and lazy.

 The African lion is it's cousin obviously . Some factoids about the African lion you may find interesting:
 The females do the hunting  the males being lazier. The male will roar and act aggressive to send the prey running in the direction of the quiet and deadly female. Female african lions do not roar.

Lions and mountain lions are basically lazy and opportunistic but  stealthy.Turns out most predators of this rank ,including humans,are as well. They wait in areas where their prey of choice frequent and go for the most vulnerable. Human predators do use lures .

My research unintentionally led me to info on human predation. A very knowledgable man(has to be due to his profession) in  another state has some excellent info regarding human predators some of which I wll post . He does cover internet predators as well but there really isn't much diffference. What you have stated about human predators seems to concur with info I've garnered   . From what I have learned, whether human or critter predator ,one must fight back when in their  sights. 

An Indian parable that relates to human predators:


"The monkey came out of the woods into town, and he found a large jar of his favorite nuts. He reached inside and grabbed a handful, and then became unable to pull his hand out, and was unwilling to let the nuts go from his hand.

The tiger came out of the woods, and walked towards the monkey. It is said that all that was found was a small hand clutching the nuts inside the jar."

  

[Astrojewels]

Totally scary about the mountain lion MN, I hope that it does not get any of your horses or livestock, but horses are pretty tough aren’t they? We do not have anything like that here, actually I don’t think we have any predator animals in oz, not that I can think of! I find all human behavior interesting and most of us can go into categories it is a good topic.

Stupid monkey…

[Acceptancedchange]

"It is wise to be cautious of those who have the predator mentality, because it generally is associated to men, (only a small amount of women have this mentality), and to have it you are usually anti-social, intelligent..."

Woah everything was going fine until saying that! I wouldn't say that those with predator mentality are necessarily intelligent because if they were so intelligent they would more often go for those who were closer to their size.

Look at those running the agenda, they are intelligent enough to get where they are, but though their dominant traits are masculine (the need for dominance, the hunger for power) we must remember they are still androgynous beings who are neither male or female.
And sure they have what they call "man" power, but from what point? Behind a desk! A table! A giant table they all sit behind at once! They do not get down and dirty, not even to do their own work, they absolutely insist they are too superior for that (they may be fairly intelligent and rational but they still have their ego, after all ego is the left brain as well as logic.)

Whereas the physical type of oppressors, opposite of victims and the oppressed, here called "predators" are more physically focused, especially where animals are concerned. (I recall animals being bought up as well as them being the cause for the thread in the first place.) They do their work themselves, and even alone.

Of course there are also just many, many with predator or oppressor mentality who work as a group! Like the mob/gang/group manifestation we see. Not to mention those with the mad agenda!

The singularity and the group mentality angles of oppressor/predator mentality certainly adds complexity to the subject, telling us it has not been explored enough. I believe the complexity is because of the many psychological aspects involved, such as insecurity and buried conscience, which would then make the personality retreat or hide behind other sub personalities such as ego, etc. Perhaps in reptilian brained survival mode, perhaps in simple defense. I guess that all depends on which sub personality is the strongest in an individual - if ego is too strong, the individual is going to lean towards (and insist leaning towards) dominance. If something like gratitude, which encourages us to be grateful for what we have instead of tirelessly thirst for more is strong enough, then one is not going to be much of a power-luster.

It is actually not surprising they group up and gang up on people - being that they don't want equal matches, they want "victims" as Astrojewels might have indicated.
But mainly being that the oppressor mentality can be even lower than the victim mentality! Look how mad psychopaths are. Very little sign of conscience. Barely even any emotion. But resentment. But ego. Speaking of "mad" interesting how the victim would be intelligent but doubtingly so and the psychopath would be insane but be sure he was most clever! As I say, the world is upside down!
Anyway, as Stewart Swerdlow teaches, lower vibrating consciousness tend to group up because it is not very singular, however higher vibrating consciousness tends to be more individual. Like sheep. Yep. A simple flocka' sheep.
... They're not very independent, are they?
Of course they're not world leaders, nor are they oppressors, but...

I'm not saying victims can't group up. Victim mentality certainly isn't a high vibrating consciousness. But I believe that although the world is upside down and the oppressor tries to ensure the victim is always one step lower, (or that is always has one that is one step lower) I believe this is simply another egotistic thing about the oppressor which is mad. Because in my clear eyes, the oppressor will always be one step lower.

And now I become defender of cats!
The cat family is victimized also, just look at all the beautiful fur around. (And by fur, I mean fur coats.)
They are hunted because they are thought to be dangerous also. Those with oppressor mentality, aka the agenda, many are too fearful even think of going after. The victim mentality within is too strong, and the oppressor mentality without is too strong.
But those with predator mentality, aka certain animals, are not necessarily full oppressor types. They may go into villages unable to resist the smell of food (not necessarily human) and may be shot by arrow/bullet because they are seen as too much of a threat, but that is because they are desperate for food.
Many times they just want food. That is why they go after small, easy types. Because the bigger ones although more "fair" are more of risk to their survival. The victims care about their survival too. Enough already, the little vermin just get away and that is why coupled with the hunting of these cat families their species can be easily wiped out - some of their species are already going extinct. Do I even want to know about the ones that already have?
Those in the cat family do at times enjoy playing with their prey, a mouse is often seen as an example. Mice have extreme victim mentality, I would not gawk at the fact whether or whether not it depends on the strength of the fearful living, that it attracts any oppressor mentality, from any at the fault of having it, in those that are already around the "victim."
Playing with prey is like the joy of having a cake. You're going to eat it, but you enjoy "having" it too. You're still going to eat it, you just like to enjoy having it first.
The joy of the kill also gives them motivation to certain/uncertain extents of survival. It is like a reward. Like hunger might even be seen as if a punishment - it is unpleasant so one gets the message. The message that one must eat. If hunger, although carrying an important message, was one that was more "rewarding" one might just starve oneself to death.
Yes, cats enjoy playing with mice even though they are fed daily, (maybe even if they are fat cats also.) In any case, the survival mindset and the reward/punishment is still built into the creature.
And whether or whether not it is needless to say, cats also long for many things, like returning back to their wild nature, like exploring the outside, things like evening just tasting their freedom and independence - things which they once knew and are taken away every day. They might be given homes and cute little cat bowls, coupled with the unpleasant occasional bath, but is it better to later receive nice things or have nice things only to have them taken away? Besides, what can replace freedom and independence?
As for cats not attacking dogs, cats are simply not that mean/aggressive. They are fair about keeping to themselves, and are not so curious about humans as to scratch their eyes out to see how long it takes. If they have a question, they wait and observe, unlike humans who say things like "cats have 9 lives" then bam - curiosity killed the cat - curiosity that of a human.
Mice are simply lower on the food chain - besides, they're sort of "asking for it," with their victim mentality. If you don't want to be a victim, empower yourself... Don't be a mouse.

TO "MERCY NOW"

Interesting. I would like to hear exactly how that Indian parable relates to human predator tendencies, though!

"Stupid monkey..."

Yes, and stupid sheep!

But like David Icke says, haven't we out-sheeped the sheep!
For the sheep need a dog herder to keep them in line, we have been trained to keep each other in line!
We can learn from victim mentality, we can learn from oppressor mentality, but at that we need to ENCOURAGE each other to get rid of these mentalities!

[Mercy Now]

I've never been a mouse and never will be.

The monkey parable relates to human predation in that many human predators rely on human's base/animal instincts to at least identify their targets.

BTW... I  flat out  disagree that a only a small amount of women have predator mentality.


FYI.... Cats are opportunistic. There is plenty of food in the form of deer in this area for them to dine upon. If they find it easier to grab the dog ,the goat , the horse all domesticated and in a particular area at a particular time they'll do it . Humans too.In Africa there are histories and legends of man eating lions who terrified villages . There was food in the bush for them.
It is a myth that only a weak or unhealthy cat will go after humans and/or domesticated animals.

 If you are truly interested in the lion issue in the states I highly  recommend a book titled Beast In The Garden.

[Astrojewels]

Acceptancedchange,

Here in Australia, many cats have returned to the wild, and it is because the owners did not take the appropriate measures to keep them inside, or they just lost interest, it seems most cats do not want to live with humans! Cats in the wild have become feral here and are a huge problem.

 

MN, tell me your thoughts on why you disagree about the woman. I do believe more men than women have predator mentality, yet more women than men have the stalker mentality.  

[Mercy Now]

AJ,

 I feel there is an increase in women with predator mentality . I have witnessed it first hand and because of my utter disgust at those particular situations did a bit of research ...amateur of course. Their goal is most always money. One ,in particular that I knew, was/is a real estate agent . She would cruise bars etc. for men ,find out their real estate worth then seduce them and instigate a divorce . If she thought she could make more money by keeping him strung along she would  do that but generally she encouraged them to sell the real estate using her as an agent then she would use up as much of his funds as she possibly could and drop him when he was bankrupt.She also made friends with women and encouraged them to get a divorce . She created chaos of relationships and thrived on divorced couples. She married and bankrupted 7 men. Also she made sure she had children by the wealthiest of these men.If the men were smart enough(in this case) not to willingly pay child support she just handed over the child to them or in one case gave the child to a friend. 

I have discovered ,to my shock and dismay, that there are many more like her. 

[Astrojewels]

Yes MN,

You are absolutely correct and to be honest I have never put these types of women in the category of predator, but I do know a few myself, but not as talented as the one you mention!!! I tended to put this pattern of thought into manipulation, and I hate to say it, but women do dominate when it comes to that characteristic!

It is on the increase, and it is sad that women are loosing who they are in this material world, thanks for your insight.

[Acceptancedchange]

"I've never been a mouse and never will be."

I wasn't accusing you, Mercy Now. I was trying to encourage any conscious and subconscious that gave the time.
However, if you are not even part victim then you are part oppressor. Those who are attracted to this Earth plane have either too much victim or too much oppressor mentality. That is why the dominant theme right now is victims and oppressors.
I however congratulate anyone who is rising above this current situation (that is what we are here for) or even trying. I try not to judge those who are stuck in the cycle.

"BTW... I  flat out  disagree that a only a small amount of women have predator mentality."

I am likely to disagree with any idea that thinks a large amount of women have predator mentality, because there is so much with victim mentality! (And believe me, I wish that weren't true! I am doing my part to change that, hopefully other women will re-evaluate their decision to think as a victim.)

The many rapes, dominance roles and spousal abuses, cultures of female submission, all tell me females have low self worth which is tied into victim mentality - this would basically be why females are generally shorter than males. They need to release images of low self worth.
Yes, males are raped too, yes, males are beaten too, but the majority of those crimes are not committed by females. I knew this before looking up any facts - whether the male of female is raped, the crime is usually committed by a male. I am not attacking males, I am certainly not saying I have hatred of males, in fact I love males, but to me the female usually chooses victim mentality and the male usually chooses predator mentality, for whatever reasons. How often it is because the males in attempt to avoid victim mentality choose to put themselves in the opposite situation I do not know.

But this reason, that after experiencing something like child molest one might try and inflict such things on other children for example, therefore becoming a "predator" because one no longer wants to be a victim, can also be why women are doing things like beating husbands.
(Sometimes the "wife" and "husband" are beating each other simultaneously.)
After all, part of the agenda is to lead females away from femininity, and the increase of aggressive behavior in females can explain, especially along with their own male resentment, why we could be seeing an increase of female "predators."
And in this reality, along with masculinized females we see more of feminized males. This could be because androgyny is part of the agenda, or because it is the males' decision to accompany/go along with or balance the females.

"Humans too.In Africa there are histories and legends of man eating lions who terrified villages . There was food in the bush for them."

As I've already explained, many times they just want their daily bread - or hunk of meat. The small creatures are easier and attract more predators. And so on.
Interesting, the increase of animal aggression towards humans. They obviously don't appreciate the way we've been treating them!

"It is a myth that only a weak or unhealthy cat will go after humans and/or domesticated animals."

Well that's perfectly fine, because I don't remember saying that.

"If you are truly interested in the lion issue in the states I highly  recommend a book titled Beast In The Garden."

I was simply discussing the dynamics of victim-oppressor mentality, but thank you, I will try and make sure I read it.

"Here in Australia, many cats have returned to the wild, and it is because the owners did not take the appropriate measures to keep them inside, or they just lost interest, it seems most cats do not want to live with humans! Cats in the wild have become feral here and are a huge problem."

I don't blame them for wanting to return to their nature, after all, it is their nature.
Humans may choose to be lazy and have their food handed to them, but this doesn't appear to be the choice of cats.
Especially after learning that humans, with their own predator mentality can be too... let's say "curious" for the cat's own well being.
Lol, I'm sorry to hear that, but I can imagine all the cute little cats running around. I'm sure it is an annoying problem. Cats are rather skilled in doing what they do - they're not that unclever, either.

"I have witnessed it first hand and because of my utter disgust at those particular situations did a bit of research ...amateur of course. Their goal is most always money. One ,in particular that I knew, was/is a real estate agent . She would cruise bars etc. for men ,find out their real estate worth then seduce them and instigate a divorce ."

I am not surprised you experienced any type of female "predator" mentality first hand.
But that can simply mean you are attracting those type of females, whether it is because of negative images on females or there being more "mouse" in you than you might know.
As for when they are predators, and the goal is mostly money, that sounds more like a survival type thing, not so much a sadistic pleasure like thing, unless they have their own negative experiences with males.
Remember that while the media puts out many images of gold-digger wives, it isn't that uncommon to find money hungry attitudes where males are concerned.

"She also made friends with women and encouraged them to get a divorce ."

Sounds like one christian trying to convert another.

"She created chaos of relationships and thrived on divorced couples."

Okay... also sounds like she doesn't want others to be happy. May be a jealousy thing, but also might have to do with the reward/punishment system of her "destroyer" programming (which I believe she has, leaving little room for doubt.) After all, reward/punishment systems seem to operate when the survival mode does.

"If the men were smart enough(in this case) not to willingly pay child support she just handed over the child to them or in one case gave the child to a friend."

^^ Doesn't sound very maternal.

"I have discovered ,to my shock and dismay, that there are many more like her."

I imagine that the agenda rather go after females instead of males to program with "destroyer" enhancements, too!
Perhaps I simply have an assumptive idea that males don't often seduce as easily. If so, this would be much attributed to the fact males so often have higher sex drive.

"You are absolutely correct and to be honest I have never put these types of women in the category of predator, but I do know a few myself, but not as talented as the one you mention!!! I tended to put this pattern of thought into manipulation, and I hate to say it, but women do dominate when it comes to that characteristic! "

The sexes have their different ways. In the unholy trinity of fear, control and manipulation... if I had to attribute one trait to each sex, control would be the males' corner and manipulation would be the females' corner. Fear would be both, otherwise it would be unlikely for either to take the "unholy trinity" at all.