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Guiseppe Wrote *Sighs, tips hat, and leaves forum*
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LOL. Awww... don't leave. You have wonderful insight and perspectives. I think you are frustrated because you already tried to answer the question I put out to everyone.
And I want you to know, I read and get what you're saying. I have a strong feeling that my oversoul guided me to this information. BUT I spent my life experiencing strong feelings that I was being guided and protected by Jesus.
I don't think there is an answer to my question. We have to choose to have faith in something or nothing. I choose to have faith in my own intuition now, but I am cautious....
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Without a "KNOWING" of oversoul (which is infinite), then there exists the gateway to programming and relatively, the illusion of a seperation from God.
So, any uncertainty or "LACK OF KNOWING" is a result of programming and the illusion of seperation.
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Lefty Girl..I can relate to you on what you said..I've been through that..maybe still there on some levels.
Stick with your intuition...maybe if you have your doubts...explore that. There's always a reason for things. Trace what brought you to expansions and why and ask your oversoul whats best for you to stick to in this whole thing regarding beliefs and practices,etc. You don't have to abandon things that you were used to and worked well with you...if they work well and benefit you, keep them. Discard what you don't need or want that isn't working for you in your life. Always go with your intuition but choose what tools are safe and trustworthy for you to help enhance your life and the way you deal with experiences and learn from them. There's a good and bad side to everything..you'll see it as neutral one day.
Hope I helped.
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[user=53]Leftygrl[/user] wrote:
I don't think there is an answer to my question. We have to choose to have faith in something or nothing. I choose to have faith in my own intuition now, but I am cautious....
Leftygrl..... The closer we get to our oversoul the more we will know by knowing....
May i ask you if you feel paranoid here? Do you feel like your doing something wrong? Im just trying to understand some of your statements.
Because ive noticed and experienced others and myself here with paranoid or doubts at one time or another. However ive also noticed that when you drop certain programs that fear tries to step in to make you go back to where you were before.
[user=53]Leftygrl[/user] wrote: How do we, as programmed people, know the difference between a programmed attraction/desire/goal or an oversoul guided attraction/desire/goal?
Does our Oversoul push us to do anything????????? Anyone have an answer for this one? Or is our oversoul neutral?
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"How do we, as programmed people, know the difference between a programmed attraction/desire/goal or an oversoul guided attraction/desire/goal?"
Last time for luck,
Programming is about getting enamored in the details and wonderment of physicality and fragmenting self to reflect this constant splitting of details.
Oversoul is a "KNOWING" through the simplicity that flows through all things.
Oversoul is All Things and is infinite, so it also includes the existance of programming. However, programming itself is irrelevant within the infinite, because it is a glitch, just like physical reality. It is an illusion-- you cannot fragment or split the all-permeating infinite.
To finally answer the question, Knowing the difference comes by Knowing that oversoul is guiding all your actions-- or not knowing.
"So if you don't know, then your ass better call somebody"
Some of you don't seem to "KNOW" what is going on with Your Selves, and it is an indication of how and what you are choosing to experience today. When you choose to "KNOW" then you choose to discern the differences in your actions.
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Hello again, I was away for a few days and there's been some thoughtful postings.
Thank you PP and G for your insights... seems you are both saying some similar things. Knowing is something we just have. Call it knowing or intuition or whatever....
<Giuseppe wrote "Programming is about getting enamored in the details and wonderment of physicality and fragmenting self to reflect this constant splitting of details.>
What a great way of explaining that... and yes, I have been there! Been on both sides of knowing and I agree with your point, that it is a choice. Have to remember that!
In response to William,
I wouldn't say I feel paranoid but I do allow myself to doubt my 'self'. I generally have a sense of peace at my center even when the rest gets frazzled.
But YES, I do sometimes feel like I'm doing something wrong. Absolutely. Most of the time I'm aware that I'm programmed to feel that way.... but I still have moments when I second guess myself.
You wrote ".....However ive also noticed that when you drop certain programs that fear tries to step in to make you go back to where you were before."
Definetly what I'm experiencing. Exactly. Thank you for writing that.
And to respond to the last thing you wrote... "Does our Oversoul push us to do anything?" or is it neutral?
I would say that, first off, anything is possible here. But my feeling is that oversoul directed guidance comes more like a suggestion, and programming comes more like an absolute... you absolutely must do this, this way. And it uses fear and guilt and magic...etc. to hook people.
What are your thoughts on this?
Now I need to go think about some of this excellent feedback! 
Lots of Love,
Sheri
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Thank you PP and G for your insights... seems you are both saying some similar things. Knowing is something we just have. Call it knowing or intuition or whatever.... <Giuseppe wrote "Programming is about getting enamored in the details and wonderment of physicality and fragmenting self to reflect this constant splitting of details.> What a great way of explaining that... and yes, I have been there! Been on both sides of knowing and I agree with your point, that it is a choice. Have to remember that!
I agree with the above and am thankful for their answers!
Leftygrl, I agree with your explination of oversoul not pushing. How are you doing with your Christian studies?
Wish you all the best
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Leftygrl Wrote:....And to respond to the last thing you wrote... "Does our Oversoul push us to do anything?" or is it neutral?
I would say that, first off, anything is possible here. But my feeling is that oversoul directed guidance comes more like a suggestion, and programming comes more like an absolute... you absolutely must do this, this way. And it uses fear and guilt and magic...etc. to hook people.
What are your thoughts on this?
Now I need to go think about some of this excellent feedback!
Lots of Love,
Sheri I think our Oversoul is not our master, nor it's our servant.
The Oversoul is able to do anything we want, but first it will do something only if we ask for it to do so, or if we want it will do it so. And ... it will act only this way, if we're convinced this really is the way it is and it would act this way ......
Remember what Stewart and many other esoterical teachers told: Hyperspace methods do work, especially if you're convinced they do work. So, that's also a reason to be moderate and to be not so fanatic with hyperspace exercises, because otherwise you show doubt and distrust and that can undermine the convictions.
And our subconsciousness is the thing which has to be convinced. Our subconsciousness is the place of the "lower mind-patterns" where memory (incl. DNA) , feelings, emotions, experiences, programs and belief systems are stored. These lower-mind patterns can be set in motion by the help of "higher mind activations", like hyperspace exercises, and these actions are started-up by our consciousness, which is free to think what it wants to think. Once started up this way, it acts like a katalysator to wake up the Superconsiousness/Oversoul connection, which then is made more open to help our consciousness to go further in it's efforts with the help of the power of the Oversoul, and this is the real power of creation.
So, it's the intent that matters.
That's free will. The Oversoul respects our free will any place, any time, from any viewpoint.
But, our convictions, wants and wishes are manipulated by programming, our thoughts and acts from the past, our DNA (which partly is a projection of our wishes in earlier times), our own actual belief systems and even by our own subconsciousness which has it's own convictions and our subconsciousness will only listen if our consciousness commands it to listen clearly (that's why suggestions in a moderate way do work). Clear visualizations also are clear commands.
So, we have here the working of prayer: prayer is initiated by the consciouss (left brain) mind to command our subconsciousness; then the subconsciousness opens the gates to our Oversoul and send out our wishes to the Oversoul to to be fulfilled.
Meditation is the other way round, The subconsciousness (via the right brain) is opened to let messages come in from the Oversoul, and it has to send them forward to our conscious mind.
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This last post above mine seems more an exercise in ego than a desire to communicate a point that is helpful to the topic
...and that is the nature of programming for you!
Where's the simplicity? Someone just post a silver infinity and be done with it!
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