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[Astrojewels]

Welcome back via.scoth,
Interesting read, I am curious to your interest in such topics as mind control, programming etc if your doubts outweigh your inquisitiveness. For most of us here on hyperspace we were introduced or induced into this information way before the internet become a global communication outlet, I agree that the internet can be a psychological testing center, but for many of us it is more about finding others that have had similar experiences and therefore we can discuss them, and together find answers to the many hidden secrets that our lives have experienced. I would certainly like to read your theories on what is happening globally, to humanity and just in general.

[Richard]

Welcome via.scoth,

In case you wanted to use your old account, I updated it with your new email.

Like Astrojewels I’ve been researching the Illuminati and mind control long before the internet. I’ve been researching it since the 70s. Most of the members here have spent many years researching it and most of us here know mind control is very real and has been going on for thousands of years. Religions and cults are an example of that.

[Richard]

I found an old article about mind control that has links to a lot of good info. I don’t agree with all the info but most of it is very good.

Electronic Mind Control - The Facts, The Proof

From American Patriot Friends Network <[email protected]>
5-31-00
 
Warning: Reading this material might induce significant anxiety or depression. Individuals with a history of heart problems, or who are being treated for depression, may find it advisable not to read this report. http://www.marynet.com/advisor/Download/download.html   
 
Electronic Mind Control
 
"For the first time in history, one human being, from hiding, at a distance, can control the thoughts and actions of another, by way of undetectable hypnosis, using still-classified electronic technology. These devices have totally disabled the world's justice systems. Those who have them use them without any fear of being caught or being prosecuted. That is what this site is about." http://www.bestnet.org/~raven1/
 
One reason that the general public, media, and uninformed government officials scoff at the truth of our story is that people tend to focus on the personal testimonial aspect, and ignore the crucially important unclassified and commercial devices which can duplicate, right now, some of the effects we report. http://www.raven1.net/ravindex.htm
 
The State of Unclassified and Commercial Technology Capable of Some Electronic Mind Control Effects Eleanor White, P.Eng. April 4, 2000 http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm#CONTE
 
Convict Chip Idea Stirs Ire Lawyer: Gov. Eyes Inmate Implants http://www.raven1.net/nmimplan.htm
 
The Test To gain the evidence that you wanted and feel life energy at a distance: http://www.magitech.com/test.html
 
Aerial Mind-Control. The Threat to Civil Liberties by Judy Wall, Editor/Publisher Resonance Newsletter of the MENSA Bioelectromagnetics Special Interest Group NEXUS Magazine, October-November 1999 http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm
 
MILITARY DEVELOPMENT OF REMOTE MIND-CONTROL TECHNOLOGY http://www.yamon.freeserve.co.uk/ESP.html
 
"Remote Viewing" at Stanford Research Institute or Illicit CIA Mind Control Experimentation? http://www.redshift.com/~damason/lhrepor...onst1.html
 
REMOTE MIND CONTROL TECHNOLOGY http://www.fastnet.co.uk/pms/
 
REMOTE VIEWING - The ESP of Espionage - http://www.nexusmagazine.com//ESPionage.html
 
Much research is currently being done on human brain waves called alpha waves. Now you can build your own IC controlled Brainwave Reciever and experiment with this interesting physiological instrument. These plans also contain information on transcendental meditation, "Alpha State" and other information about this exciting new field! http://www.futurehorizons.net/psi.htm
 
IGOR SMIRNOVS DEVICE AND THE THOUGHT CONTROL http://www.apfn.org/apfn/smirnov.htm
 
Mind Control Resource Directory http://www.brazilboycott.org/BrazilByct/links.html
 
CIVILIAN POPULATIONS NOW A VIRTUAL PLAYGROUND FOR UNETHICAL MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE EXPERIMENTERS, THANKS TO ADVANCED ELECTRONICS! http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/
 
Watch What You Think or Think What You Watch? O.J. vs. the NWO http://www.lumpen.com/lumptime/lumpen23/ojvnwo.html
 
Technologies of Control for World Domination http://steamshovelpress.com/masscontrol.html
 
Electromagnetic Weapons and Mind Control from CNN's Special Assignment, about 1985 http://www.morethanconquerors.simplenet....cnn-mc.htm
 
REMOTE VIEWlNG: THE STORY OF THE REAL X FILES http://www.fastnet.co.uk/pms/real_x.htm
 
Autonomous Mindcontrol-News-Agent http://rtsh.t0.or.at/scl/scl8/threads.html
 
A Depository of 60GCAT's Greatest Hits http://www.conspire.com/pics.html
 
NO MORE SECRETS: http://no-more-secrets.net/index.html
 
CONSPIRACY LINKS: http://www.freewheelin.com/communities/c...links.html
 
MCF Victims: Glen Nichols' Story http://www.morethanconquerors.simplenet....ichols.htm
 
Voices In the Brain, By Tim Swartz http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/voices.html
 
My name is Conrado Salas Cano, I graduated from the California Institute of Technology http://www.conrado.net/index.html
 
CIA & VATICAN, HOLOGRAPHIC PROJECTION TECHNOLOGY - "HOLY SEE" Montauk & Mind Control http://www.crossfields.com/~watcher/conholo.html
 
SATANIC AND MICROWAVE TORTURE OF A CHRISTIAN http://www.subgenius.com/updates/X0007_S...ROWAV.html
 
McVeigh: The Manchurian Candidate by David Hoffman, Special to ParaScope [email protected] http://www.parascope.com/articles/0197/mcveigh.htm
 
Mind Control & Timothy McVeigh's Rise from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber http://www.daywilliams.com/mind_control_...ntine.html
 
Project Monarch by Ron Patton http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html
 
Mind Control and Cult Information Resources http://www.healingroads.org/mclinks.html
 
This is a collection of Material from the book "Matrix III" (The Psocho-Social, Chemical, Biological, and Electronic Manipulation of Human Consciousness), from Valdamar Valerian, First Edition Printing May 1992, Copyright 1992 Valdamar Valerian. http://no-more-secrets.net/oriontechnolo...ojects.htm
 
The Mysterious Life and Death of Phil Schneider http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8623/schneider.html
 
THE EVIL WITHIN: http://etherzone.com/stan051400.html
 
The Judicial Branch July 1st, 2001 - Changes in the Judicial Branch http://www.timelink.net/wintersplan/judicial.htm
 
APFN MIND CONTROL INFO & LINKS: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/mind.htm
 
Contrails (Chemtrails) http://www.apfn.org/apfn/contrails.htm
 
We Are At WAR by Sheriff Mike http://www.apfn.org/apfn/atwar.htm
 
http://www.rense.com/general/mndcontrol.htm

[via.scoth]

Hi Richard

Thanks for your reply. I'll take a look at all those links.  Some of them I've seen many times before some are new.

One website in particular has caught my interest.
http://www.raven1.net/ravindex.htm

For years I've been somewhat suspicious of this whole group of people. 

raven1.net is related to http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/ - The person who runs mindcontrolforums website is http://www.heart7.net/ If you go to the heart7.net site and look on the main page you'll see a http://www.neopets.com/ link.  From what I can tell is neopets.com is run by Scientology or someone who is very into Scientology. 

http://kotaku.com/gaming/neo-pets/inside...141826.php

I would think that someone who runs a website called "mind control forums" would know that.  This is a big problem for me. 

This link also bothers me:
http://www.heart7.net/commonalities.htm

There are a number of things I don't like about raven1.net  but would rather not say anything at this time.  I do admit that I can be wrong...

  I'll check back every now and then If I hear anything.

Thanks again

[Richard]

Hi Scoth,

I didn’t know the mindcontrolforums were into Scientology. I’ve only looked at their site a few times and never dug deep into it. A problem for many people is when they leave one form of mind control is they replace it with another. They think they’ve found enlightenment but all they did is fall into another mind control trap. Like when Christians change to new age religion, or Christians becoming an atheist, and so on. So the mindcontrolforums may feel their enlightenment is Scientology. That doesn’t mean everything they say isn’t true. It just means some of the information with be disinformation. That’s the way it is with most sources of information. No one knows everything and some of the things they believe will be disinformation. So you have to take everything with a grain of salt and learn to sift the disinfo from the truth. :)

[AndrewX]

HI scoth,
 
Skim reading can have its disadvantages... one often missus things they may not have if they took their time with it...

Astrojewels quoted:

[b]Welcome back via.scoth...

I would certainly like to read your theories on what is happening globally, to humanity and just in general.

[/quote][/quote][/b]
... I too scoth...:big grin: 

Tell me what you think of this scoth... innocence can be some people's worst enemy I think... 

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2ogCARdV8 

{knock-knock-knock}

Hello!! How are you?

I'm well.

What's your name?

I'm Al Bundy, so pleased to meet you...:eek: 

...and every Thursday he assures all wannabe thieves that it would be the best day to go and burgle his place... just make sure the "Free Hugs" sign is not on the door.:retard:

Some people... 

[Get Boldened]

AndrewX. Thank you for posting that youtube video because now I figured out how to access the youtube videos from other countries :)

http://hk.youtube.com/
http://uk.youtube.com/
http://fr.youtube.com/

[via.scoth]

Hi

Thanks for your replies. 

There are many reason you may not want to put up everything you think and feel on to this huge database: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/3380

If you want to really see a good information/dis-information mix go here: http://cryptome.org/

One of these messages is what led me to this site in the first place:
http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic...d=7&id=331
http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic...14&id=1554

I have been looking into mind control stuff for awhile.  I think that there's always dis-information thrown in most articles about it.   If you try to track the information back to its source you either find a dead end or that you just have to take some one's word for it (usually some xerox'd copy with a bunch of text blacked out).  Then some years later you find out the person was a part of an orgainized cult like the US Government promoting what it deems is truth.  When you find large organizations infiltrating both sides of the argument - the truth is sacrificed. 

For instance look up C.A.N. they are currently online and taking orders:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network

I have come to believe that many, not all, of the mind control websites have been put up are to spread dis-information and track people who are interested in the subject. Most of them replicate the same information found on other sites.   Some are run by organizations interested in anyone who may come their way. Others are just fake and put up for fun: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

I have no idea if 'voice to skull' is possible or if any of those psychtronic devices actually work.  I've seem the pictures, diagrams and have read the documents but, I don't think it's possible.   I do however think that one could be influenced in to believing it can be done.  With the right set of circumstances and lack of good brain chemistry I think one could program a person to believe just about anything.  Especially if you have access to their personal information or apply online psychological tests to gather that information.   You can mess with someone till the cows come home don't you think? 
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music...ntPage=all

The most interest page on raven1.net is: http://www.raven1.net/napolis1.htm
The list of people mentioned there are worth staying away from, like the plague. Diana is/was crazy no doubt - but I think there's a reason those people are on that list.  I don't say this lightly.  If you don't know who they are you might want to look in to it.  They're not just on usenet for example.

[AndrewX]

via.scoth said:

Hi

Thanks for your replies. 

Sure, but where's your replies to us??  This is not a notice board Scothy, it's a forum.
 

There are many reason you may not want to put up everything you think and feel on to this huge database: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/3380

If you want to really see a good information/dis-information mix go here: http://cryptome.org/

One of these messages is what led me to this site in the first place:
http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic...d=7&id=331
http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic...14&id=1554

http://cbeebies.persistentperil.net/higgelty.html

I have been looking into mind control stuff for awhile.  I think that there's always dis-information thrown in most articles about it.   If you try to track the information back to its source you either find a dead end or that you just have to take some one's word for it (usually some xerox'd copy with a bunch of text blacked out).  Then some years later you find out the person was a part of an orgainized cult like the US Government promoting what it deems is truth.  When you find large organizations infiltrating both sides of the argument - the truth is sacrificed. 

For instance look up C.A.N. they are currently online and taking orders:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network

I have come to believe that many, not all, of the mind control websites have been put up are to spread dis-information and track people who are interested in the subject. Most of them replicate the same information found on other sites.   Some are run by organizations interested in anyone who may come their way. Others are just fake and put up for fun: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

http://cbeebies.persistentperil.net/12345.mov
 

I have no idea if 'voice to skull' is possible or if any of those psychtronic devices actually work.  I've seem the pictures, diagrams and have read the documents but, I don't think it's possible.   I do however think that one could be influenced in to believing it can be done.  With the right set of circumstances and lack of good brain chemistry I think one could program a person to believe just about anything.  Especially if you have access to their personal information or apply online psychological tests to gather that information.   You can mess with someone till the cows come home don't you think? 
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music...ntPage=all

http://cbeebies.persistentperil.net/trex.html
 

[size=-1]The most interest page on raven1.net is: http://www.raven1.net/napolis1.htm
The list of people mentioned there are worth staying away from, like the plague. Diana is/was crazy no doubt - but I think there's a reason those people are on that list.  I don't say this lightly.  If you don't know who they are you might want to look in to it.  They're not just on usenet for example.

 
http://cbeebies.persistentperil.net/row.html 

We can all run off on tangents and make out as though we know more than most scoth but in the end that's not what forums like this are setup for.  If you don't want to talk with anyone else and just keep in your own little world there are places you can do that, but this is not one of them. 

Richard, 

Can you please tell this character to smarten up and stop being so self centred and rude.  From what I've seen of him so far he's the biggest dissinformation agent in town...and an arrogant one at that. 

ANSWER the questions asked of you scoth this is NOT a one way street here.[/size]

[Richard]

Scoth, you’ll never be able to convince anyone here that mind control isn’t real because many of the members here have first hand experience with it. It goes much deeper than you think and would take years to absorb and understand it all. It can’t be done with a few articles. Its fine if you don’t want to believe it’s real but most of the members here know better than that. So you’re not going to get anywhere trying to convince us it isn’t real. I agree there is a lot of disinfo on the net about it. The Illuminati runs many of the disinfo sites. The Illuminati has it setup that way to make it difficult for people to find the truth but the truth is out there for anyone who searches enough.