10-30-2008, 08:40 PM
Posted by Ice Cream Soldier at 18:50
For the past few years http://www.snopes.com/ has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell all final word' on any comment, claim and email.
But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.
To the best of my knowledge that was not a secret. I've known that for a long time. Apparently, for many people it was a secret.
David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity as people believed it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions; who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation?
The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues.
A few months ago, State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort ever' took place.
Lt Colonel Ed Cathcart USMC (Ret), a customer and friend of Bud Gregg's contacted David Mikkelson (and Mikkelson replied back) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, LTC Cathcart learned from Bud Gregg that no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their research and got to the bottom of things!
As I said, the mom and pop operation was not a secret to me. Here's what was the secret to me;
It has been learned the Mikkelson's are Jewish - very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings.
So, everyone who goes to http://www.snopes.com/ to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself.
It is apparent that that's all the Mikkelson's do.
http://backtothedarkages.blogspot.com/20...ution.html
For the past few years http://www.snopes.com/ has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell all final word' on any comment, claim and email.
But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.
To the best of my knowledge that was not a secret. I've known that for a long time. Apparently, for many people it was a secret.
David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity as people believed it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions; who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation?
The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues.
A few months ago, State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort ever' took place.
Lt Colonel Ed Cathcart USMC (Ret), a customer and friend of Bud Gregg's contacted David Mikkelson (and Mikkelson replied back) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, LTC Cathcart learned from Bud Gregg that no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their research and got to the bottom of things!
As I said, the mom and pop operation was not a secret to me. Here's what was the secret to me;
It has been learned the Mikkelson's are Jewish - very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings.
So, everyone who goes to http://www.snopes.com/ to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself.
It is apparent that that's all the Mikkelson's do.
http://backtothedarkages.blogspot.com/20...ution.html
Snopes.com Lies, Continues the 9/11 Cover Up
These days, Snopes.com has become the end-all, be-all arbiter of truth. I don't know how this happened. The site is wrong about a great many things, for some reason people still cite Snopes to me as "proof" that I am wrong about one thing or another, as if they were a know-all god that can not tell a lie. Well, when it comes to 9/11, Snopes.com is a false and very outdated god.
Because I have a very strong understanding on how media deception works, it comes as no surprise to see how ignorant the general population of the United States is about 9/11, and that to this day so many people still believe the official narrative of the events of that day. The disconnect between the official narrative and the body of available evidence could not be greater. Still, the general public still does not understand that the evidence that has been unearthed not only exposes the lies of the official story, but, in fact strongly supports theories that 9/11 was an inside job.
This is mainly because the official body of evidence is never discussed by the gatekeepers in the establishment media. As an example, consider the entire bin Laden aspect of the 9/11 events. Everyone from the left to the right continues to babble on about how we need to get bin Laden, and how George W. Bush should have gone after bin Laden after 9/11 and how bin Laden is our greatest enemy. Well, everyone except the FBI. You see, the FBI admitted that they do not have any evidence linking bin Laden to the events of 9/11 and as of the writing of this article they do not reference 9/11 on their Most Wanted bin Laden page. I may be incorrect but I believe that I was the first person to point this out, doing so in April of 2006. At least, I was not and am not aware that anyone else pointed this out prior to my article. Either way, by June 2006 others went ahead and confirmed my findings. But thanks to the reality management of the mainstream media, very few people know about this.
Anyway, recently I was perusing some forum when I came across an argument about 9/11, where some well meaning but ill informed person chimed in by citing Snopes as proof that the Bush administration did not defy the no-fly rules imposed on the nation ater 9/11 in order to shuttle members of the bin Laden family out of the country. (This was pointed out by Michael Moore in his film Fahrenheit 911) As of today, 10-30-2008, Snopes, the end-all be-all source of truth, has this "fact" listed as FALSE! Unfortunately for Snopes I don't like liars...and I am calling them out on this. I am not only publicly requesting that they correct this information but I would like to know why information on a topic this important has been wrong for so long on their site? I will bet you that people have tried to get them to correct this "error." Snopes last updated this article on December 11th, 2005. Of course, since that time, a great deal of new evidence has come to light, much of which clearly contradicts the claims stated on the site. Snopes, however, has not corrected their incomplete, out of date, and incorrect declaration in almost three years!!!
The unreliable and condescending people who run Snopes.com have chosen to belittle and ridicule factual evidence that contradicts the official narrative about the attacks of 9/11. They have chosen to ignore evidence that exposes the many 9/11- related lies told by the Bush administration, stooping so low as to title this particular piece: "Flights of Fancy!" Well, a more respectable website has provided the public with pretty solid evidence contradicting the deception perpetrated by Snopes, the Bush administration, and the criminal establishment media! The flights in question did take place and the information related to those flights were indeed covered up by the US government. The F.B.I did contradict its own conclusion when explaining the circumstances involving the flights, and most importantly the criminal media did absolutely nothing to make the public aware of any ofl this. If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that this information was originally confirmed by Richard Clarke during the 9/11 Commission (Omission) hearings. But for those of you who do not remember, like the people who run Snopes.com...here is some more recent documentation:
÷ JW Investigates Flight of Saudi Nationals after 9/11
÷ Judicial Watch Releases New FBI Documents: Osama bin Laden May Have Chartered Saudi Flight Out of U.S. after 9/11
÷ Judge Orders FBI to Correct Disclosures Concerning Government Evacuation of Saudi Royals and bin Laden Family After 9/11
÷ Newly Released FBI Documents Reveal Additional Information on Saudi Flights from U.S. Following 9/11 Attacks
÷ Watchdog Submits Documents on Saudi Flights to 9/11 Commission
÷ US Government Documents Show 160 Saudis Flew from US Between September 11 and September 15, 2001
So here is my simple request...next time anyone feels like correcting me on an issue, leave Snopes.com out of the conversation. Unless you are trying to prove to me that the latest spam epidemic is dangerous, I prefer to get my information validated by someone or something that can itself be proven valid.
Jesse Richard - Editor, TvNewsLIES.org
http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/911...er-up.html
These days, Snopes.com has become the end-all, be-all arbiter of truth. I don't know how this happened. The site is wrong about a great many things, for some reason people still cite Snopes to me as "proof" that I am wrong about one thing or another, as if they were a know-all god that can not tell a lie. Well, when it comes to 9/11, Snopes.com is a false and very outdated god.
Because I have a very strong understanding on how media deception works, it comes as no surprise to see how ignorant the general population of the United States is about 9/11, and that to this day so many people still believe the official narrative of the events of that day. The disconnect between the official narrative and the body of available evidence could not be greater. Still, the general public still does not understand that the evidence that has been unearthed not only exposes the lies of the official story, but, in fact strongly supports theories that 9/11 was an inside job.
This is mainly because the official body of evidence is never discussed by the gatekeepers in the establishment media. As an example, consider the entire bin Laden aspect of the 9/11 events. Everyone from the left to the right continues to babble on about how we need to get bin Laden, and how George W. Bush should have gone after bin Laden after 9/11 and how bin Laden is our greatest enemy. Well, everyone except the FBI. You see, the FBI admitted that they do not have any evidence linking bin Laden to the events of 9/11 and as of the writing of this article they do not reference 9/11 on their Most Wanted bin Laden page. I may be incorrect but I believe that I was the first person to point this out, doing so in April of 2006. At least, I was not and am not aware that anyone else pointed this out prior to my article. Either way, by June 2006 others went ahead and confirmed my findings. But thanks to the reality management of the mainstream media, very few people know about this.
Anyway, recently I was perusing some forum when I came across an argument about 9/11, where some well meaning but ill informed person chimed in by citing Snopes as proof that the Bush administration did not defy the no-fly rules imposed on the nation ater 9/11 in order to shuttle members of the bin Laden family out of the country. (This was pointed out by Michael Moore in his film Fahrenheit 911) As of today, 10-30-2008, Snopes, the end-all be-all source of truth, has this "fact" listed as FALSE! Unfortunately for Snopes I don't like liars...and I am calling them out on this. I am not only publicly requesting that they correct this information but I would like to know why information on a topic this important has been wrong for so long on their site? I will bet you that people have tried to get them to correct this "error." Snopes last updated this article on December 11th, 2005. Of course, since that time, a great deal of new evidence has come to light, much of which clearly contradicts the claims stated on the site. Snopes, however, has not corrected their incomplete, out of date, and incorrect declaration in almost three years!!!
The unreliable and condescending people who run Snopes.com have chosen to belittle and ridicule factual evidence that contradicts the official narrative about the attacks of 9/11. They have chosen to ignore evidence that exposes the many 9/11- related lies told by the Bush administration, stooping so low as to title this particular piece: "Flights of Fancy!" Well, a more respectable website has provided the public with pretty solid evidence contradicting the deception perpetrated by Snopes, the Bush administration, and the criminal establishment media! The flights in question did take place and the information related to those flights were indeed covered up by the US government. The F.B.I did contradict its own conclusion when explaining the circumstances involving the flights, and most importantly the criminal media did absolutely nothing to make the public aware of any ofl this. If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that this information was originally confirmed by Richard Clarke during the 9/11 Commission (Omission) hearings. But for those of you who do not remember, like the people who run Snopes.com...here is some more recent documentation:
÷ JW Investigates Flight of Saudi Nationals after 9/11
÷ Judicial Watch Releases New FBI Documents: Osama bin Laden May Have Chartered Saudi Flight Out of U.S. after 9/11
÷ Judge Orders FBI to Correct Disclosures Concerning Government Evacuation of Saudi Royals and bin Laden Family After 9/11
÷ Newly Released FBI Documents Reveal Additional Information on Saudi Flights from U.S. Following 9/11 Attacks
÷ Watchdog Submits Documents on Saudi Flights to 9/11 Commission
÷ US Government Documents Show 160 Saudis Flew from US Between September 11 and September 15, 2001
So here is my simple request...next time anyone feels like correcting me on an issue, leave Snopes.com out of the conversation. Unless you are trying to prove to me that the latest spam epidemic is dangerous, I prefer to get my information validated by someone or something that can itself be proven valid.
Jesse Richard - Editor, TvNewsLIES.org
http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/911...er-up.html