STS-115 'Debris' Or STS-75 UFOs?

[Richard]

STS-115 'Debris'
Or STS-75 UFOs?
Exclusive From Rense.com
9-20-6

Several days ago NASA scrubbed landing over what it called "debris" floating outside the Shuttle Atlantis on mission STS-115. The first sighting was a long, dark rectangular object that appeared to be keeping pace with, or in the same orbital path as the Atlantis.
 
Yesterday, more objects were photographed and videotaped, this time with remarkable resemblance to the now infamous STS-75 "tether" footage from The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun, where massive, pulsating, "dropa stone" shaped objects, many miles wide, can be seen passing behind the 12 mile long tether as it drifts into space after snapping loose. The tether provided a varitable measuring stick for size and distance for the swarm of mysterious, pulsating saucer-like craft.
 
The "debris" videotaped yesterday has the same qualities: ring or donut-like white objects, pulsating or throbbing with light. Has NASA been caught off guard and forced to call these objects "debris" when they know otherwise? NASA even went as far as to speculate that the debris could be items torn loose from the shuttle or accidentally discharged from the payload bay! An inspection was conducted revealing no damage to the Shuttle, including no missing heat resistant tiles.
 
Atlantis flight director Steve Stitch said it's common to see pieces of floating debris when astronauts open the payload bay doors at the beginning of the mission, although "it is a little bit unusual to maybe see objects this late in the mission." (1)
 
NASA contends that the objects are small and close to the Shuttle (within 30 meters), possibly even ice (here we go with the ice again!), rather than large objects at a greater distance.
 
"It doesn't look like anything I've seen outside the shuttle," Atlantis Commander Brent Jett said. (2). This "debris" is clearly unlike the commonplace sparkling, dust-like particulates that are often seen floating about the Shuttle when ships jets are fired or the payload bay doors are first opened.




Frame from STS-75 Footage
showing "dropa stone" shaped UFO

STS-115







The object to the far upper right differs from the two ring like objects below and to the left of it. This different object stands stationary while the other two objects move independently. The two ring-like objects appear to pulsate while the stationary object remains constant in its brightness, though it does appear to spin or turn in place revealing its strange shape.



Stationary object

 

Upper left ring-like object

 

lower right ring-like object

[diatonis]

That's pretty intense. I don't really know what to think about the 'dropa stones'. You can also see them in the Dan Aykroyd ufo video. In one scene on the video it looks like a reflection of a 35mm telephoto lens on the glass of shuttle. I really don't know what it is.

[Richard]

Welcome to the forum Diatonis. I don’t know about the Dan Aykroyd UFO video. Do you know what the title was?

[diatonis]

Hi Richard,

[size="-1"][/size]Dan Aykroyd: Unplugged On UFOs

Its been out for awhile but here are some links I've found.  I think I got mine at best buy if I remember correctly.

http://www.ufosoverphoenix.com/UNPLUGGED.html
http://www.rense.com/general58/unplg.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dan+aykroyd+ufo

The [size="2"]dropa stone scenes are really great.  I still get chills seeing them.  They're shown a number of places at different times in the video.  On one of the scenes it looks to me as if I can see some type of camera housing being reflected from shuttle's window.  I'll try to see if I can find the exact time it takes place and post again. 

Either way it's an interesting video.  There are some ufos I've never seen before, and some I think are fake.  One of the more interesting ones is the ufo seen in Venice California. 
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[Richard]

Thanks for the info. I didn’t know Dan was interested in UFOs. I’ll have to check out his video sometime. I saw the dropa stones on the Discovery channel and the story about them sounds interesting. It sounds like some advanced alien race left them here long ago. It makes me wonder if that’s where we got the idea for CDs from.

[William]

I knew of the Dan Aykroyd ufo vid but forgot all about it, thanks for posting..and reminding me.

[diatonis]

[size="2"]They're shown a number of places at different times in the video.  On one of the scenes it looks to me as if I can see some type of camera housing being reflected from shuttle's window.  I'll try to see if I can find the exact time it takes place and post again. [/size]

If anyone wants to see what I mean by 'camera housing' or ???  Then if you have the US (NTSC) version then go to around 45 minutes 10 seconds and you'll see what I'm talking about.  Its located near the center of the video image towards the upper right side.  It's in the same shape as the dropa stones and moves  down the center of the screen and then fades out.

I'm not saying it is a camera housing but rather something that is peculiar and looks to me like a reflection in the shuttles glass.  It's also in the same shape as the dropa stones. 

[diatonis]

Hi Richard and William,

You can see a little bit of the [size="2"]dropa stones in this video [/size]"UFO - The Best Evidence Ever" is the title.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...1367323464

I'm currently watching it and found a few video clips of them near the beginning of the video.  It's not quite as impressive as the Dan Aykroyd video but does show the "12 mile Tether" where one of the dropa stones passes underneath.

[William]

Im gonna watch the  Dan Aykroyd vid soon.    But I do own the "Secret vid Transmission of NASA, so ive seen them in that.  Love that vid by the way.!!  What they discuss in the video is just as important as the pictures by the way.

[diatonis]

Hi William

I think that the 'dropa stones' are an optical phenomena that is similar what happens when one walks in to a room that has dust in the air and takes a flash picture.  I think that the ufos shown in the STS videos is actually the sun is illuminating something in the atmosphere, maybe ice or some type of water vapor.  The dropa stones appear and are much larger than they actually are.   It's similar to what is discribed on this page:  http://www.jtmedia.com/angstrom/xfiles/orbs/

"The reason why some pictures had images of orbs and some not was determined by how much dust you stir up from the floor after shooting between shots.
When the women were taking pictures of the coffee house event there were people walking about getting their coffee and rolls. The earlier pictures (while people were getting their coffee) created more disturbed dust than the ones showing sitting down at the table.
So we attached the camera to a tripod and shot some normal looking pictures having three or four dust images in them. Then we shook a dusty pillow 3 feet in front of the camera and guess what came up?"

I've become much more of a skeptic mainly because I've found that things many times are not at all what they appear to be. 

For example I think that the Phoenix Lights are flares.  Mainly because I've seen flares many times.  They look like orbs floating in the sky.  I remember veiwing a ufo  tv program that proved that they were flares simply dropping down on the other side of a mountain range.   But others still feel it's something else: http://www.ufocasebook.com/phoenixlights.html

Another ... I'm sure you have seen the ufo vidoes that where the one light appears and then 'jumps' to another position, then to another etc...  I think these are just an advanced flare of some type that is simply timed to turn on and off...  like they do with fire works.  

I don't know what many of the ufos actually are, but I think there aren't as many as reported.  The source of the information is fairly important.  I've watch the Dan Aykroyd video with the sound down just so I can view it without the dogma attached.   To me even the word "ufo" conjures up alien spacecraft when it should mean only that it's an unidentified flying object.

This doesn't mean that non-man made spacecraft from ??? don't exist. 

Sincerely