*Sob* Heath Ledger dead!

[Astrojewels]

Spiritvoyager,
I think you maybe jumping to conclusions, heath ledger never showed any signs of being a slave, he may have been in one controversial movie but apart from that there is nothing that indicates this to be true, I don’t even see him as a societal programmer either. He was rarely talked about or seen. I seen an interview where he was discussing being controlled but he was actually referring to his obligation to movie premiers and his duty to the media for promotion of his films, his greatest dislikes in the industry was dealing with the paparazzi, he wanted to be an actor but not public property.
There is an echo of similar energy between his latest film, which he portrays the joker, and the face of Brandon lee in the crow, but I am in no way saying they met the same fate, Brandon lee is a whole different story.

[spiritvoyager]

You are right Astrojewels, I was jumping to conclusions because at the gut level, I smell a rat, and because my recent reading had filled my head with more information about the mechanics and widespread use of mind control involving specific programming.  I would not make comments like that using my real name.  However the fact that Stewart did so, in my mind confirms my gut reaction that something stinks here.  My main motivation was that I was thinking that if it was murder, the spirit of the deceased would want people to know.  And if foulplay was involved, I really hope the truth comes out (though I won't be holding my breath).

Another very wierd occurrence was that comment by Bush's press aide using the tragedy as an excuse for cancelling a speech by Bush against prescription drug abuse.  Reeks of a familiar smugness if you ask me.  And like you said, Astrojewels, Heath Ledger was not that well known an actor (in the U.S. anyway). I am quite sure that you are much more knowledgable about mind control than I Astrojewels, but I was going by my gut, and my gut smells a rat.

Certainly it is possible that Ledger's death was caused by exaustion, or some hidden physical malfunction. I'm just not buying it.

[Astrojewels]

Spiritvoyager,
I agree with your gut feeling but I was not referring to that; I was actually referring to heath ledger being a slave, I do not believe this to be true. I also agree that the truth will not come out in public, and that they will say it was an accident, perhaps a mixture of alcohol and medication. They are working out the best response right now just by the publics reaction to this event, they will feed the uncertainties.
You should always trust your gut feeling, the first thought or response that enters the mind and subtle body is 99.9% correct, society is programmed every millisecond of the day through opinions, chatter and gossip, we have all had our ‘mind’ changed by the views of others only to find we were correct with our initial ‘gut’ feeling. Yet sometimes the journey is worth the headache just for the experience!

[spiritvoyager]

You are probably right about Heath Ledger not being a slave Astrojewels.  You no doubt know the signs much better than I.  Though I still find something fishy in the father talking to the media so soon and calling the tragedy an accident.  I expected that the family would withhold comment - at least until enough time had passed for the facts to be thoroughlly sorted out. 

[Richard]

Jack Nicholson warned Heath Ledger on 'Joker' role

BY JOE NEUMAIER
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, January 24th 2008, 3:18 AM

 
Jack Nicholson, who played the Joker in the 1989 'Batman' movie, says he warned Heath Ledger, below, about the part.
 Heath Ledger thought landing the demanding role of the Joker was a dream come true - but now some think it was a nightmare that led to his tragic death.

Jack Nicholson, who played the Joker in 1989 - and who was furious he wasn't consulted about the creepy role - offered a cryptic comment when told Ledger was dead.

"Well," Nicholson told reporters in London early Wednesday, "I warned him."

Though the remark was ambiguous, there's no question the role in the movie earmarked as this summer's blockbuster took a frightening toll.

Ledger recently told reporters he "slept an average of two hours a night" while playing "a psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy ...

"I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going."

Prescription drugs didn't help, he said.

Ledger's ghastly image as the Clown Prince of Crime in "Dark Knight" has been an Internet sensation since trailers were released in December, featuring Ledger in full death's-head mode.

His face chalk-white, his hair green and his mouth a sliced red grimace, the handsome 28-year-old Australian actor looked frighteningly true to the character in the Alan Moore graphic novel, "Batman: The Killing Joke."

The movie wrapped filming in the fall - right after Ledger's breakup with actress Michelle Williams - and post-production work finished not long after.

While "Dark Knight" is the film that will stand as Ledger's cinematic gravestone, insiders say the flick, set for a July 18 release with Christian Bale as Batman, won't suffer from his death.

"Ledger's portrayal of the Joker is already one of the most anticipated screen characters of the whole year," says Gitesh Pandya, editor of the movie tracking site boxofficeguru.com

"I think most of the audience will still be there. If anything, I would think the marketing of his character might be scaled down a bit.

"The Joker is a character where you could go over-the-top with marketing. The studio might scale that back a bit in the next few months, just to be respectful."

Tony Timpone, editor of the fantasy magazine Fangoria, said the movie should do well, despite the "cloud over it" from Ledger's death.

"It's going to be tough, because the Joker is such an indelible character, and Heath was such an indelible actor. It could be tough to disassociate ourselves from reality. Because the movie looks like it's going to be so dark, and his life had such a dark end."

Critic and film historian Leonard Maltin said Ledger's death will heighten curiosity about the movie - and certainly won't hurt the box office.

"This is sad and so different from any previous examples, because the film has such an enormous built-in audience; people will go anyway, but there's no question it could cast something of a pall over the film," Maltin said.

"It says something about the curious nature of film, that someone can be so alive onscreen when we're all too aware that they've passed. It underscores how we're mortal, and films are immortal."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/01/...on_jo.html

[GeeGee]

Stewart's theory on it being an assasination definitely holds weight.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movi...html?imw=Y

[Sily]

How very strange - MK Olsen was called.  Then her bodyguards come to Ledger's apartment............ then 911 is called. 

Stranger still - the recent pic of Heath Ledger from his last movie - hanging dead from a noose with three red symbols painted on his forehead.  The middle symbol looks like a triangle with a round dot in the middle.

[Astrojewels]

It seems we will just have to wait and see what story they come out with.

[Sily]

Link to story

Ledger took lethal mix of drugs


Prescription drugs were found near Heath Ledger's bodyHollywood actor Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose of six different types of prescription drugs, New York authorities have revealed.
The Brokeback Mountain actor, 28, was found dead in January in an apartment he had been renting in Manhattan.
The city medical examiner's spokeswoman said Ledger died "as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects" of the different drugs.
They include painkiller Oxycontin and anti-anxiety drugs Valium and Xanax.
Some of the prescription drugs were found near his body when it was discovered by his housekeeper.
Ledger's body has been flown home to Australia for a private burial, while a public memorial service is planned in Los Angeles.
Film suspended
Last week, his former partner Michelle Williams spoke publicly for the first time since the star's death, saying: "My heart is broken."
The pair met on the set of their Brokeback Mountain, in which Williams played Ledger's wife.
The couple, who had a daughter Matilda, now two, split up last September.
The makers of Ledger's most recent film, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus - directed by Terry Gilliam - have suspended production.
Ledger had completed filming in London just before his death.
The star also plays The Joker in yet-to-be-released Batman film The Dark Knight.
Also last week, US TV shows Entertainment Tonight and The Insider pulled a video they had planned to show of Ledger at a Hollywood party saying he used to smoke cannabis.
The star is apparently heard saying he "used to smoke five joints a day for 20 years".
The shows released a statement saying the footage, believed to be have been recorded in January 2006, would not be shown.

[Astrojewels]

So is this the official story they are sticking with silly? I have not heard anything except that his family have arrived home with his body.