The 13th Sign

[Richard]

This topic came up in another thread and I thought I’d post the info here. This is what Karen Dess had to say about the 13th sign at Expansions.

All the information out there on the 13th sign is rubbish, and this sign was used long ago when the Earth had more days in the calender year. Atlantean time was much different to now, and only those that were involved in these times can say they have knowledge of this ancient sign, and yes it was placed between Scorpio and Sagittarius, apart from that there is no room for it in our modern times.

[MC]

"The Sun sign is only one segment to the personality.The astrological chart consists of the Moon...etc"

This astrological chart is Soli/Lunar,and these are her own words.Many people find it quite accurate.It might not be the type of chart like Karen's,but that doesn't mean that it can't be accurate.

[Monica]

I often feel the accuracy of a chart is based more on the interpretative abilities of the astrologer than the method used.  There is scope for vast disinformation on every level of 'non-conventional' information, and so it is our own capacity to wade through it and piece together the gems of truth in a stable manner, that makes the difference.

[Richard]

I don’t know enough about astrology to have an opinion on the 13th sign. It will be interesting to hear Karen explain more about it when she comes on board. It seems like that should be in a couple weeks. :)

[Richard]

I wrote to Karen and told her about the 13th sign discussion we’re having and this is what she had to say.

I would have to go with what Monica said, that it really is the translation of the Astrologer that is most important, I have not heard of that type of astrology but if that is what works for her, then it is good, if she has positive feed back from her clients then is works. There is no system that is 100%. Each of us are influenced by other people, places etc.
I really do not believe there is room for the 13th sign in modern times. I will have a look to see if I can find out any info on the luni solar system.

[MC]

He,he thanks Richard.

[Richard]

MC, I mentioned to Karen that you were interested in her astrology and she said she’ll email you about it. :)

[SilverInfinity]

I have a feeling that they are ushering in the 13th sign because there will be room for this in Astrology when Jupiter becomes second sun, a literal ritual of sacrifice to Lucifer, and a bringing of Luciferian energy into the physical plane permanently. It would make sense, because the astrology will change when the planets are pushed and pulled out of their positions by the second sun. Futhermore, what does Lucifer represent in this world? Horn beings, dracos, reptiles. And what do they associate themselves with? The dragon or scorpion. Well, the 13th sign is rumored to be either a dragon or scorpion. The Illuminati is just preparing the public for the coming energies, as they do with all of their other agendas.

[Avatar]

I think that Ophiuchus [Serpent Man Holder] is the Thirteenth Sign of the Zodiac and therefore is the Dragon. So you could be right there Weng. Ophiuchus originally came from the astrology of Sumer and did developed from Enki [Lord Of Earth] in Sumer.So Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces are quite familiar to everyone and when Jupiter does become Lucifer, the Second Sun in our Solar System, then the Thirteenth Sign will be Ophiuchus or a symbolic equivalent of Ophiuchus.

[MC]

MC, I mentioned to Karen that you were interested in her astrology and she said she’ll email you about it. :)

She already did,Richard.

Perhaps,I should do someone's horoscope here on the forum :D