The Expansions Cult

[TiMe -2-StOpThEM]

I have seen that movie also- the men who stare at goats. Major Illuminati symbolism, that guy has the all seeing eye tattooed on his chest.


That is a good point Purple Pebble about the heavy programming experiences. Stew told me I had monarch, dragonfly, scorpion, all of that programming. After reading Fritz Springmeir's work about monarch programming I was so blown away because it says basically that all Monarchs must go through this kind of sick treatment.

That was really something for me because then I started believing that I had been tortured and raped and all these kind of things but for whatever reason did not remember them- because my brain created alters and what have you. I think that it was a little fear based and blown out of proportion ..... mostly those things are true for celebrities and people like that who really undergo the tortures. I wonder if they know they have been tortured etc.?

From practicing his "techniques" I started getting back all of these "memories"... things like me being molested by George Bush Jr. (he did come and visit our town once and my family went to see him speak) it really started screwing with my head. I didn't know what was real or not and stopped trusting everybody. Literally, I was so paranoid that I would not even tell my mother things that I would talk to Stew about.

Like a cult indeed.... icon_devil

[yukesam]

 Yukesam got a lot of stuff off his chest, I am still working on mine with regards to this topic, obviously I am not very happy about THIS subject. But I am smart enough not to let that bleed over into the rest of my perceptions or anything else.

I want you to know I didn't post here just get things off my chest. I mentioned time after time that I valued my experience with Stewart and I even appreciated SJ ( high pathetically speaking and with some honesty )on this site for this experience which taught me a lot of things. It is just the fact that he is low-life scumbag and he believes in his own lies and gives devastating advice to people without any responsibility for it. And we (me, you and other) are saying this to people over and over repeatedly. I like to expose him as who he is not writing about it forever time after time. People will get tired to hear the rants constantly from us. That is just the fact. The lies about me in his stewpid site don’t even bother me PP. Because it only proves what I‘ve been saying to people. I ,for one, really don’t want him to remove it at all.

 

[user=1596]PurplePebble[/user] wrote:
If I come across something that I feel is worth pointing out, like hypocrisies/denial and ignorance, I might have a rant about it, like I do. Depending on the circumstance.
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Who am I to say for you to do this or don't do that PP? It was my honest suggestion for people like me, you and other who constantly post and rant here that it is getting too repetitive and people will get tired of it. And Iq was just agreeing with my suggestion.  And that is only reason I’m replying you here not to side with Iq or anything. Because I am starting to get tired of my own rants. LOL~ (One exception is Richard. He is the owner of this site and he must continue to post to fill in I think. ^^*) Just my opinion that's all.

[PurplePebble]

[user=1588]yukesam[/user] wrote:

 Yukesam got a lot of stuff off his chest, I am still working on mine with regards to this topic, obviously I am not very happy about THIS subject. But I am smart enough not to let that bleed over into the rest of my perceptions or anything else.

I want you to know I didn't post here just get things off my chest. I mentioned time after time that I valued my experience with Stewart and I even appreciated SJ ( high pathetically speaking and with some honesty )on this site for this experience which taught me a lot of things. It is just the fact that he is low-life scumbag and he believes in his own lies and gives devastating advice to people without any responsibility for it. And we (me, you and other) are saying this to people over and over repeatedly. I like to expose him as who he is not writing about it forever time after time. People will get tired to hear the rants constantly from us. That is just the fact. The lies about me in his stewpid site don’t even bother me PP. Because it only proves what I‘ve been saying to people. I ,for one, really don’t want him to remove it at all.

 

[user=1596]PurplePebble[/user] wrote:
If I come across something that I feel is worth pointing out, like hypocrisies/denial and ignorance, I might have a rant about it, like I do. Depending on the circumstance.

Hey Yukesam, I didn't mean that getting stuff off your chest in the way it came across, sorry for not saying what I meant to say properly.

I misunderstood you .


The posts you write have valid points and or proof in some way whatever form it comes in. I have perceived some of them to be getting stuff off your chest, that is not a bad thing, it doesn't diminish the value of what you say. That is my misinterpretation and poor explanation of what I perceived and what I truly meant to convey about this whole rant thing.

When i I say," i need to get things off my chest" I mean express an angry emotion, maybe this is the wrong term. I don't know a term for it.

Anyway, I am sorry. It came out the wrong way.

Hopefully you know that was not what I meant to say Yukesam.

[yukesam]

Oh PP, I'm not mad at you. We just need to cut down on posting the same stories by same posters. And I take the first responsibility for it with myself. I think a lot of people will agree with that idea including Iq. That's all. People are not blind. They know SJ is screwing things up for themselves.

From the sexual predator Non-person with no income that is also under North Korea and Japanese mind control. But Stewart worked with me for almost a year not to mention visited me for 5 days and almost smoked the Dutch chronics with me. What is that says about Stewart if above descriptions about me were true? LOL~ Stewart you are unbelievably simple man.

 

[Octahedron]

... People will get tired to hear the rants constantly from us. That is just the fact. The lies about me in his stewpid site don’t even bother me PP. Because it only proves what I‘ve been saying to people. I ,for one, really don’t want him to remove it at all.

yukesam, I don't think they get tired by the rants, as far as the ranters do post facts and information that can be verified. You gave a lot of facts, information and documentation, thank you for that.

Maybe this thread is becoming to long and thus difficult to follow for outsiders and so Richard has the opportunity to close it; and Richard can reopen the discussion with a new thread where all the old personal things between members and off-topic things are likely less present.

There is also business etiquette and commercial law involved here, like there is big difference between the legal and non-legal rights and privileges between a company (like Expansions Inc. )selling products and services and a customer/consumer, a private individual who buys and uses those products & services.

i.e. What would a customer of Toyota Cars or Vokswagen do, if Toyota or Volkswagen opens an "anonymous" website to bash it's customers personaly who are disappointed about Toyota or Volkswagen cars ? What effect will that have on the turnover sales of Toyota or Volkswagen ? 

i.e. at Amazon.com, people are allowed to write summaries about the books of publishers and authors. Many customer sections at Amazon.com are filled with all kinds of rants, bashings and allegations.

Have you ever seen a certain publisher or author who bashes Amazon.com, the President, CEO, or the Board of Directors of Amazon.com on the internet via the help of an '"anonymous" website because of what is written on the customers section about the products and services that publisher/author in particular is selling ?  Not to mention the bashings between readers and authors in the customer sections on Amazon.com :D

Of course not.

BTW: yukesam, good to see you have some selfreflection and selfcritics and you have cooled off a little; it gives a better impression this thread in the end is really a discussion where people can learn from each other.

A second thread where the discussions could be less emotional, less repetitive and less off-topic, would be appreciated by me.

[yukesam]

[font="맑은 고딕"]Hey octahedron, there you go again trying to compare Expansions cult as legitimate business. Save your breath buddy. Business etiquette and commercial law?? For Expansions cult? I mean seriously what is wrong with you man. You are one stubborn hard headed and so self centered man who just doesn’t give a sh*t about other people’s experience regarding the expansions. What do you mean Richard has opportunity to end this thread? I am just trying to refresh my friends that recently the thread is becoming a little club for children who is gang up together. Same people posting one after the other in the exactly same sequence over and over again. So we need to try little harder to be more effective by regulating our own posts and the materials for regular people not for the career forum guy like you who enjoy analyzing all the posts with all the patience in the world. The regular people just don’t have that patience like you Octaman and the majorities (99%) of people are interesting to find out about Stewart and Janet. Not me or anybody else. My friends and I need to regulate our posts and allow some time and other new members to share their experience as well. Understood Octaman? Business etiquette for the conman?? Hey you need to open your own damn forum site. [/font]

[Octahedron]

Please yukesam,

RE-READ again, what I have just written, before you make quick conclusions again.

So, you can read, I want the discussion of this thread to be continued, via a second re-opened thread, just the way as you do suggest in more regulating the posts for other interested and regular people.

 

[wanderer]

[font="맑은 고딕"]Hey octahedron, there you go again trying to compare Expansions cult as legitimate business. Save your breath buddy. Business etiquette and commercial law?? For Expansions cult? I mean seriously what is wrong with you man.[/font]

The reality is that Expansion's is indeed a business and the focus should be on whether it's business practices are being followed correctly by local, federal and state regulations. There are many resources that could be used to research and even file consumer complaints on products or services that weren't provided as advertized.

True, it is a cult.  But it is also a business that espouses cult teaching and practices which is covered under 1st amnendment rights for the Freedom of Speech.

I've attached a link that may be of help if you already haven't seen it.    

 

http://chicago.bbb.org/

[yukesam]

[font="맑은 고딕"]Hey Octadon, I know what you wrote no need to make the sign for me. I just don’t think it’s proper for you to suggest any idea or suggestion as a very senior member without thinking thoroughly about it. It doesn’t make any sense to end this one and create the new one that will say the same thing. And you are suggesting the idea at the same time you’re trying to legitimize the Expansions as legitimate business. What are we talking about here in this thread Octadon? So what do you expect from me man? How about setting up your own forum where you can do whatever you want man. You have plenty of experience for it. I don’t understand why would you want to continuously defend ( legitimize ) Expansions when you know Richard is exposing them. And you guys going way back too! Why the friction? It’s you talking about the etiquette for expansions. What about some courtesy for Richard?  [/font]

[Octahedron]

[font="맑은 고딕"]Hey Octadon, I know what you wrote no need to make the sign for me. I just don’t think it’s proper for you to suggest any idea or suggestion as a very senior member without thinking thoroughly about it. It doesn’t make any sense to end this one and create the new one that will say the same thing. And you are suggesting the idea at the same time you’re trying to legitimize the Expansions as legitimate business. What are we talking about here in this thread Octadon? So what do you expect from me man? How about set up your own forum where you can do whatever you want man. You have plenty of experience for it. I don’t understand why would you want to continuously defend ( legitimize ) Expansions when you know Richard is exposing them. And you guys going way back too! Why the friction? It’s you talking about the etiquette for expansions. What about some courtesy for Richard?  [/font]

When I wrote about etiquette in business, it is in the sense Expansions has to respect it's old customers when they are disappointed in their products and services.

Yes, I should be more at the background in this thread because I am a very senior member, so other people, esp. new members, have more room for their input.

that's the reason why I gave my suggestion here; to help regulating the posts and give more room for other interested people.

But, enough said; let's wait what the moderators are planning and how they think to regulate the discussions in this thread the best way for everybody, esp. for new members and interested people.