The Kuiper Belt Aliens

[simple simon]

Moon Child[/color]]Hmm,there is meaning to double eagles.

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Hi MC, please explain... it may shed some light on events.

Thanks

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[simple simon]

Anu-021413[/color]]Simon I'll be honest. As informative as your last post is,I find it disturbing. The referance to "Eagles disobey" is what 's really bothering me. You see,.. In that book I was sent under pretext of seeking more helpful positive info on things, there was/were repeated ref to "Double Eagles." Right away I assumed it was of German origin since that's one of the few countries that uses the symbol. It didn't click until I later realized what the book's true purpose really was and have looong since STOPPED reading it. It's some new age bs pure and simple. Why your article ref's to this I'm partly sure on, but still it bothers me. I hope the KBA get here soon.

[color="darkred"][size="3"] Hi Anu-021413,

Well yes even though I am no expert on symbology that name suggests something that at a minimum could be called 'cloak and dagger'.Eagles represent power and ambition, plus if I am correct are on some sort of emblem which represents the USA.

It is very possible that the eagles disobey list is used by TPTB (whether the list's owners agree or not) to keep an eye on whats being said, perhaps with some of their operatives joining in discussions and releasing tidbits of factual info to see what happens - and to make those who are not in the loop feel like they are getting hold of some 'special' info. But not too much info of the sort which the public really would like to know - such as how zero point energy works - as that would see someone meeting an early grave.

I do not know if what was said about Gary McKinnon is true, or someone embellishing what is already widely known.

Then again, I could say the same about this thread - except that the timeframe of October 2008 was already known to me before this thread was known to me.

Jim has a website here... http://tanit.us/  I was discussing things with him way before this thread even began. When two totally independent sources of info start saying very similar things, then one sits up and begins to take notice.

btw, re: Gary McKinnon, I know of a second source of info about the US having space capable aircraft too. Plus I've read enough about what the Nazis were up to to see how the USA could have sourced some of its technology This is Dr Boylan who runs the UFOFacts list, and sometimes receives information from some Zeta Reticulans. (But not the same ones as give info to Nancy Leider of Zetatalk - it seems that these two groups of Zetans are not at all friendly towards each other).
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[Anu-021413]

Actually the American Seal we have,has only one eagle on it. As far as everyone,and everything else you mentioned,I don't know who these people are. The "Want to ignight Saturn,imo, is the em wanting to destroy those "objects" found hovering around it.As well as to speed up the depopulation process here on Earth. I don know about the effect on the former,but it sure would achieve the latter IF it was successful. As far as it's symbolism,I feel it does have some.

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Anu-021413[/color]]Actually the American Seal we have,has only one eagle on it. As far as everyone,and everything else you mentioned,I don't know who these people are. The "Want to ignight Saturn,imo, is the em wanting to destroy those "objects" found hovering around it.As well as to speed up the depopulation process here on Earth. I don know about the effect on the former,but it sure would achieve the latter IF it was successful. As far as it's symbolism,I feel it does have some.

Yeh, the "depopulation process" on Earth is massive. The conter-intelligence propaganda about there being 6.7 billion Humans is utter rubbish. TPTB use 'Malthusian Statistics' and pretend Earth is overpopulated, to then justify ever increasing depopulation and total population decimation in Third World Countries. Birthrates in Europe, Britain and America have been plummeting since 1954-1955. Maybe the KUIPER BELT ALIENS (KBA) on behalf of the Lyraen High Council want to preserve certain DNA groups for future usage within their own biological and genetic planning for this planet.

[Mercy Now]

The double eagle is a Masonic seal and intiation symbol.It is also the emblem of the contemporary Russian Federation. Gold eagle,two heads, on a red background.

 

[b]Contemporary State Emblem of Russia[/b]
State Emblem of the Russian Federation constitutes the image of gold double eagle, placed on the red heraldic shield. There are three historical crowns of Peter the Great above the eagle (two above the heads and above the heads one crown of the bigger size). The eagle holds in claws scepter and orb. On the eagle chest on the red shield there is a horseman defeating a dragon with a spear.  

Gold double eagle on the red field keeps the historical succession in the color range of the emblems of late XV – XVII centuries. The drawing of the eagle goes back to the images on the monuments of the Peter the Great epoch. There are three historical crowns of Peter the Great depicted above the eagle, which symbolized in new conditions the sovereignty both the Russian Federation and its parts, the subjects of the Federation. The eagle holds in claws scepter and orb, which personified the government and the united state. On the eagle chest there is a horseman defeating a dragon with a spear. This is one of the ancient images of the struggle between good and evil, light and the dark, the symbol of the defense of the motherland. Reestablishment of the double eagle as a State Emblem of Russia personifies the continuity and succession of the national history. Contemporary State Emblem of Russia is a new emblem, but the parts of it are deeply traditional. The emblem both reflects different stages of the national history and continues them in the third millennium. 

[ShadowRunner]

"Maybe the KUIPER BELT ALIENS (KBA) on behalf of the Lyraen High Council want to preserve certain DNA groups for future usage within their own biological and genetic planning for this planet."

Sounds great where do i signup?

[Octahedron]

ShadowRunner[/color]]"Maybe the KUIPER BELT ALIENS (KBA) on behalf of the Lyraen High Council want to preserve certain DNA groups for future usage within their own biological and genetic planning for this planet."

Sounds great where do i signup?

Yes, this kind of impatient feeling is coming up in me, too.

Instead of Lyrean Council, maybe it is an Andromeda council with Sirian assistance for physical mediation between KBA and Earth beings.

Read two books of Murry Hope:

1) The Lion People

2) The Paschats and the Crystal people


Now, I've read out book nr. 2 also.

Again said, there is a very big similarity within the books of Murry Hope and this KBA thread; esp. when concerning the comments of Moon Child.

Let me explain for you:

Murry Hope wrote about telepathic messages she got from a non-physical group (crystal beings) from Sirius and beyond AND a leonide group from Sirius, now accessing the current time line of this solar system.

What are the facts in relation to Murry Hope and this KBA-thread ?

- New objects in Kuipers Belt where detected since 1992

- Murry Hope got/wrote about the Paschats and Crystal People since 1992

- Moon Child wrote about Lion People coming from Andromeda/Hatona planet

- Murry Hope wrote about a cosmic police force from physical lion/feline beings and non-physical lion beings like the Ari from another planet from another star system or galaxy.

- Hope wrote, this cosmic police force is ready to interrupt this solar system and change/correct the time-lines of Earth, that is to reconfigure the Earth energies to the true spiritual energies and remove negative unbalanced entities esp. the cosmic virus

- Hope wrote, their interrupts are soon to be expected (soon from 1992).

- Swerdlow, Moon Child and others are mentioning a "KBA group" since 2004.

- According Hope, the technical expertise of this police force is far beyond any other alien group, because of their high spiritual development using mind as the ultimate basics and they do not need technology at all.

- Their interrupts can be physical, telephatical or like programming or infecting certain DNA with special programming.

- The communication with and between these lion beings according Hope, is mind to mind; exactly like what Moon Child is wroting. However mind to mind with the help of technology is also possible in communication for less developed entities.

- There are other facts to be concerned in similarity esp. like written in the "Blue Blood True Blood" Book of Swerdlow. Esp. Atlantis and the Sirius influences.  A Cosmic virus is to be seen as mind-eaters.

So, what if the story of Muury Hope is true ? According to her info, then only the spiritual mature beings on Earth will succeed to sustain in a physical incarnation, however maturity means maturity at all levels. Only the all sincere will make it and grow up to the next spiritual and non-physical levels; others have to incarnate on other planets at other time lines to learn their lesson, which they failed to do in their Earth incarnations.

Now, this sounds a little bit New Agey to me, but the interesting thing with Murry Hope is the explanation of Time travelling and Hyperspace knowledge at a higher level (for those with enough experience and references). 

I think this kind of cosmic knowledge is to be considered very accurate.

[user=885]ShadowRunner[/user] wrote:

"Maybe the KUIPER BELT ALIENS (KBA) on behalf of the Lyraen High Council want to preserve certain DNA groups for future usage within their own biological and genetic planning for this planet."

Sounds ..

If so, this genetic planning likely is already programmed in our DNA since Atlantean times or earlier.

[Warstar77]

ok i am aware of nwo plan but there are others who in different good to fight against nwo and there evil plans and we will not die and we will tell the nwo to back off will fail because earth is our planet and galatic federation ship is coming on OCT 4ths 2008 and i hope its real and i will try to contact them about nwo plans for depopulating the earth and if we stand and fight as earthlings and try convince. Tell the truth every human on the planet are earthlings and we should tell the world we are same as every human rece lol

[simple simon]

How will you contact them?

Are you even 100% certain about the 4th October event. Especially as there have been so many previous predictions which have not come to pass.

Simon

[iqhunk]

Predicted events will never come to pass because the mere prediction and focus of attention changes the outcome. Extension of Quantum Theory (Wave-Particle Paradox and Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle)

Meanwhile, "RayPoz" could simply mean Positive Rays.