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The Laws of Logical Thought
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Brief introduction:

  Logical laws are formulations in logic which had always been operative in logical thought, but which require conscious investigation in order to be formulated explicitly "as such".

  The value of logical laws as items of knowledge are that they are formulas which, if applied correctly to any group of thought-arguments (arguments really just meaning vectors of thought), they are able to ensure the ability to explain whether or not that argument's logic is consistent, which is to say that the solution to the convergence of those thought vectors results in a demonstration of something which, if the sources of those thought vectors correspond to reality in truth, then so does their convergence upon a solution.  The characteristics of those thought-vectors (arguments) and the status of what may be determined based upon the accurate assessment of those characteristics, is much of what formal logic is about.

  The reason this process is useful in the cases of any given argument is that if the argument is illogical, but presents itself "as if" logical, then this is a ruse which we might rather detect and disarm consciously rather than not.  If not, we may have an intuition that something isn't right, but we may not be able to spell out what the problem is.

  If the problem cannot be identified, and the argument is allowed to stand in our minds in its valid appearance, then an illogical circuit of thought has been established in the mind.  The problem with these circuits, which actually exist in neural networks and also can be represented in computer programs and electronic circuits, is that they are destructive to the resources which would normally allow logical thought to be productive and appropriate in its own sphere. These aberrative forms of thinking in fact are faux thoughts, not real, in that they do not harbor a constructive and stable relationship to reality as such, are not "truthful". They are often appearing to be valid, and passed off as the real thing, but they do not constitute reasons for assent to the ideas presented, but rather reasons to cease taking ideas from that source, for that source is under a delusion itself, or perhaps even worse is acting with the intent to instill delusions within the targeted hearer. Yet it happens to be the case that what is effective is just a degree different from what is not, just as what is called "success" is in many cases a matter of seconds sooner or later than pure failure.  Some argument forms, or methods of apparently logical thinking, are in fact like this:  they for some reason merely appear valid, but they are not valid.

  What makes logical thought productive and appropriate is that it prevents fallacies, delusions, illusions, and other ersatz thought forms from staking claims in our minds, which are arbitrary in nature concerning their verity, but perhaps even in concrete ways malicious in their effects aside from the strategic harm they may well do to the mind of the one who entertains them unguardedly.  This is even often so as their perpetrators have at root an energetic interest in such claims, and will eventually reap a reward from them if possible, if only in the form of disabling our otherwise functional mental machinery from performing specific tasks (i.e., they can be mental locks enabling subtle forms of programming, e.g. religious and other indoctrination rely upon them, as well as various forms of "mind control").  Charlatans take many forms, but always their special trick is to take our mind off of what is its proper focus, so that it cannot guard against some manner of violence to its interests, and this is one manifestation of the evil essence, which is its need to operate under the protection of darkness, in this specific mode, through deception.

  Therefore, the value of logic as a stable system of thought process has been, in a rudimentary way, established here, which is that it enables a clear and efficient, and accurate channel of communication between thoughts in a single mind so that it does not contradict itself, and so is able to grow a pattern of thought which proceeds from what is true and transform it into what is true again, in whatever forms fit the need of that mind's spiritual development.  In other words, if there is truth in the mind, it preserves it, and if there is falsehood, it detects it and distinguishes it from what is true (another way of saying it preserves the truth). By preserving the truth which exists, it defends the mind from deceptions regarding them, and is an important weapon in defending the Spirit from manipulation and exploitation.

  Since the meaning and value of logic has been here sufficiently suggested, onward to the principles of logic, looking at three of its Fundamental Laws, which are relevant to our everyday thinking, and upon which we can go as far as we want to into deeper levels, as the need requires, and as our ability and time permits.



The Law of Identity (Modified)

(A -> A)

If something is true, then it is true



The Law of Non-Contradiction

~(A & ~A)

There is no truth to the statement that something is true but also false



The Law of the Excluded Middle

(A V ~A)

There is no third alternative to the possibility of a thesis (its truth) or its negation (its falsity)

  

These are actually usually called the laws of thought, and our first record of their formulation in any rigorous form in the west is through Aristotle's writings on the study of what is knowledge and how we know it, which is called in philosophy "epistemology".  His writings on this were especially the Prior Analytics and the Posterior Analytics.

Wikipedia, awesome as usual, gives an excellent overview here: The Laws of Thought .

I will not go into that article itself although it has many interesting points to examine, but let the reader investigate it if she finds it worth her while.  If she is even more avaricious for knowledge, she may find the primary texts worthy as a grist to add to these considerations.  Biggrin



The Logical Implications of These Laws of Thought

Having already been shown in their basic logical symbolism, I will entrust the reader has some idea of the meaning of these symbols as I indicated in the brief statements of them in ordinary language.  I will make further formulations in that manner, but these will be likewise supplemented with ordinary language, so that they can be studied side by side.

Given that we take logical validity to be an evaluation of the preservation of truth, so that if the premises, or the initial facts of our consideration, are all true, then we mean by a valid conclusion that there is some idea, sentence, or thought which can be formulated as though a consequence of those premises, which is not stated in them per se, but which must be true just as well if they are true, and cannot be false if they are true.  The means of ensuring that we have such a conclusion is studied in logic, and the Laws of Logical Thought which are presented above, turn out to be among the most fundamental rules which can be shown to underlie all these derived or further rules of logical thought. 

In other words, if these fundamental rules are not upheld, then the rules of logic which enable valid deductions to be ensured and formulated properly, also cannot be.  Likewise, they are harmoniously distilled as fundamental rules (laws) by the investigation of the valid arguments of logical thought, which again are valid because if the kernels of truth which are the basis of the conclusion, the premises, are all true, then another statement, a conclusion, can be drawn from them with absolutely certainty of being true on their basis (whether or not the premises are in fact true, is another matter).  And it turns out that these three special rules are of the substance of all those others which are derived from them and through which valid arguments are conducted.
~ ++ Hanc Defendemus ++ ~
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Example 1)  The Law of Identity (Modified)


A -> A

This says plainly "If A, then A".  This is the implication arrow (->), and it is the arrow which functions to mean that if what is to the left of it is true, then what is to the right cannot be false.  If what is to the left is true, and what is to the right is false, then this arrow is, in this case, itself false (doesn't operate truthfully in this case, except in saying that its operation is false, which is itself "true" about it).


If an argument were in the form of an implication, then the conclusion would go to the right of the arrow, because the conclusion is what is implied from the premises.  The conclusion "follows" from them because, as already defined, if the premises are all true, then the conclusion cannot be false, and must be true.  The premises would all go to the left of the same arrow of implication.


The implication arrow says the same exact thing as an argument, except in the ideal form of an implication statement, we only present two statements, one which is to the left of the arrow (the antecedent), and one to the right of the arrow (the consequent).  It is a "binary" operator.  In the case of the question of what an argument is in respect to an implication statement, it is a statement of the form P -> Q such that P represents the conjoined totality of all the premise statements (usually two), stated together as "P" in this form, it means that if they are all true then "P", their conjunction, is true.  In this case Q, their conclusion, is the consequent of this implication, and cannot be false if the implication is true, as that requires that "if the antecedent is true (in this case all the premises of the argument), then the consequent (in this case the conclusion) cannot be false (or must be true)".  Arguments whose forms are such that when they are converted into this implication we know the implication is true, are valid arguments.  This though they may have false statements in them, because, for example, if happens to be the case that the argument form is valid (and so this construction of the argument as an implication statement is true), then if the consequent (here, our "conclusion") is false, then so also must be the antecedent (here the statement that "all the premises are true"), for it cannot be true, as then we would have an implication with a false consequent and a true antecedent, which is not possible if the implication is itself true.

Look at it freshly

(set of premises) -> (conclusion).  If the premises are all true, then the conclusion is true.  So, if we want this guarantee of truth such that we can say this: that if there are certain things that we know then therefore, and with no doubt at all, we can be certain that there are other things we also know, then this idea of implication serves that purpose.

Now look again at the Law of Identity as formulated here:

A -> A

If we want A to imply A, then when we know that A is true, we cannot then say that A is false, because that would mean that A cannot be certain after it is certain, but that means that nothing can ever be implied, no matter what. That would mean that if we knew something, it wouldn't ever be useful for guaranteeing we knew anything else which it would imply.  But we know that would be absurd, because we would be unable to support that.  I want to point out here that I am taking the Law of Identity into a modified form, because that Law simply states that A = A.  I don't take this to be logical per se, and I would say that is truly a "Law of Thought" as such.  But what is interesting about this rule is simply that without it we cannot even coherently communicate.  What is logically interesting about it is that if we have asserted "A" as true, then we can be sure that it is not false.  In other words "If A is true, then A is true."  The truth of A is what is logically crucial about its identity, which is already thought to generally be preserved in all iterations of it.  A hybrid way to speak of these two ways of talking about identity would go something like this:

Let it be true that:


= = "corresponds identically with"
B = The meaning of A'
C = The meaning of A''
A = The form of a term called "A" or designated "A"
A' = One iteration of A
A" = Another iteration of A different in time or space or in location within the same argument, as A', but in form identical to A' so that as to form (A = A' = A")



Then we know the following:

[(B = A) & (C = A)] ->  (B = C)


Or "If the meaning of one iteration of a term corresponds identically to the form of that term, and the meaning of another iteration of the same term as the first iteration also corresponds to its form, then we must take it that the meaning of the first iteration of a term corresponds identically with the meaning of the second iteration of that same term.  But this doesn't really look the same as "A = A", although this is what that formula is really saying in the first Law of Thought.


But I wish to construe the significance of what this identity implies about a term and focus it upon something interesting about that term, namely that it's truth is preserved along with its identity, across any series of manipulations so that, if its truth is once accepted in a "logical space" or "universe" then that truth must always be accepted as a valid consequence.  So this isn't just any implication, this is an implication about the identity and preservation of truth itself. It is also a great way to introduce perhaps the most important logical operator, implication (or "conditional").  So let's explore the significance of this modified form of the law of identity.  We can ask ourselves, how is it evident to us that this implication is always true, no matter what form of content is placed within "A".  What is the reason for this?

The reason can be shown by letting us say that the thesis "A" is true, but not let us immediately imply it from itself, so that we can't say it again in an infinitely small time afterwards (or beforehand), and if we allowed that then maybe that would make sense.  After all, it is conceivable that "A" was true one planck second ago, and now false, or else now true, and one plank second later will be false.  But if we say it is true now, then, is it not true, now?  The intuition we had in saying it is true now immediately and absolutely prevents us from saying, in that moment and with that thought, anything else. "It is true that A" our mind says, "so, it is true, that A".  Imagine if you could think that thought in an exact moment.  All you are doing is duplicating the same content.  Theoretically, you could repeat the stated truth of A an infinite number of times in one instant, or else repeat it infinitely on a time line perpendicular to the dimension in which you are saying it here, and in that moment when these two timelines intersect, you'd be saying "A", and in the timeline perpendicular to here, you'd be saying one LOOOOOONG "A", and that is consistent with saying it "once" in this instant, here on this horizontal timeline.

Saying "A is true" is just consistent with saying that A is true, unless something else prevents it.  But in one single instance, what could prevent you from repeating it as many times as you want, as long as you "had the time", which is to say an infinite amount of time transverse to normal time and intersecting it in one instant, and if you had the energy, which is to say an infinite amount of mental energy for filling up that time with the contemplation of the truth of A?

So since an implication operator works "in an instant", and for that instant, it operates "infinitely" within that instant, and preserves truth within it.  And since our example gives us a good intuition of how that might work, it seems clear that it is nothing but sensible to say that, at least for this one instance, for this one notion, call it "A", that (A -> A) cannot be anything but true.  "If A," Icon_skeptisch: "then A."  (That's what you look like when you infinitely process the truth of A in one instant).  Now, we have a strong sense of the nature of not only the law of identity as a meaningful axiom, but we see it is intimately connected to the nature of logical thought by way of the idea of "implication".

I'm not telling you that you must hold this axiom to be true, nor that you must agree with it, or with me for that matter, in any way.  I'm just saying...  well, try to show me a reason to think that it isn't, and that will be awesome to behold!  But you mustn't use this axiom in that process, nor can you draw implications... Icon_warn  Because if you do, that will backfire.

That would be like trying to imply that something is false from the assumption that it is true... and implication means exactly not that.  In logic, in fact, it means anything but that.  You can get away with implying what is true from what is true, what is false from what is false, or what is true from what is false!  But you can't, by the very meaning of what we mean by "implication", imply what is false from what is true!  Mainly, however, the value of implication is to draw true conclusions from true premises.  Therefore, if you wanted to draw a conclusion that you claim is true, that the law of identity is false, you'd couldn't include in your premises that the law of identity is true!  Logic is instantaneous in this regard. 

This is something that people out there in the world are very slippery about.  They like to use the law of identity when it is convenient for them, but drop it when it is not.  But the problem with this approach is that it is not valid.  It means that you are dealing with a sloppy-headed person, who can't think straight, or at least doesn't talk straight, and so is a 'fibber'.  If you were at the bar next to the capital building which was called "The Cloak and Dagger" at 8:31 pm and 22 seconds, sitting at the counter, then you were doing precisely that, precisely there, precisely then.  This was true.  How can it be false as an implication?  So if they lie, they can say they were there, then, and in that way, and then the  next second they can say that they weren't, but we know that is impossible to be the case that they were, and then they weren't!  People can mix up how the talk about the truth, but the truth doesn't mix itself up with them to suit their fantasies...

But with logic, fibbers are notoriously sloppy, because logic always preserves truth, and when we want to say something is true, then for those conditions when that happened, we can never say it is false, EVER.  Not unless when we first said it was true, it really wasn't in the first place, and then we must eventually admit that it was false.  And in that case this is the truth, and will never change!

Liars find this a scary universe, this logical universe, so they usually go into politics or acting (pretending), or other forms of fraud. Both lie and are falsifications of what is real which each must pretend that they are doing something which appears real, but in fact is just a well-contrived appearance that deceives.  The first pretends to be taking care of the good of everyone and in good faith (they do not and are not), and the second pretends to be something in order to convey the images of a story, and really they "act like" and only in that way do they "act".  The real action is what is done in the world by real actors, and this all without undue regard for appearances (although appearances must also be taken into account sometimes.  it is just that in "theater" that is in essence all of what is important to regard.  Politics, and much of culture and human society is such a contrived falsehood meant to look true but only appearing to be so, that in fact stage and film acting are actually imitations of real life in a more exact way than it would at first appear!  "Real life" is a lot of pretending, with a lot of malintent behind it, so that the deceptions which are produced by the pretending enable the malintent behind that facade to reach its goal.  It is organized crime.  Then, within that organized crime of fraudulent pretenses, culture itself becomes a reification of it, framing into a "larger than life status" the fantasy that what goes on in the first place was genuine when it wasn't!  Art in this context doubles the intensity of the delusion which was already presented in the world at large.  This is what Shakespeare was saying in fact. But this is a bit of a digression, although a pertinent one.

As to attempting to imply what is false from what is true, you can try it, but the problem is that you can't have the law of identity in your premises and not have it in your conclusion.  It is not possible to imply the falsehood of something if, in the premises used, it is true. This is because it is instantaneously true, over the whole domain of the formula of implication, because logic is instantaneous (and eternal), and so a term isn't true on the left side of the implication arrow and then not true after it gives rise to a conclusion on the other side!  It isn't like a hen that lays an egg and disappears afterward! The truth is immutable on both sides of the arrow, and what is true on one side cannot become untrue on the other.  We cannot say "B -> ~B" unless B is actually false! But down below I promise to demonstrate even this, mechanically, using the rules we have, to show that not only is the Law of Identity (or, ID) consistent, but it is consistent in showing how the contrary of itself is not consistent, and I'll also show that the contrary of the Law of Identity must be inconsistent with itself in an attempt to establish itself!  Which is to say it cannot be established, but must be arbitrarily asserted, but since when was an arbitrary assertion ever a demonstration? Icon_confused

Therefore, to logically demonstrate the untruth (how else can untruth be demonstrated except logically?) of the logical Law of Identity, you cannot employ it in your premises.  And if you want to demonstrate something to be true, not just whenever, but for all cases, then you must demonstrate that it is illogical to deny it in any case.  Since if something is always true then it is implied in all cases, all the time.  That means also that I should be able to pick any case, and find that would be illogical to deny a law in that case, or how can it truly be a law?

So how, pray tell, can you ever demonstrate the falsehood of the Law of Identity? Here's a way I think it would have to go:


   Let A be the statement "the law of identity is false", which is our desired conclusion (it no longer capitalized, as it is stripped of its Glory)

   If we know the set of premises called "B" is true, upon which we would imply A, then this implies "A", which is to say, (B -> A)

   Therefore A

   QED

But hold on, if we know that by the premises, "B", being true, and that this is the basis of knowing "A" to be true, "A" meaning that the law of identity is false, then B must first be found true for this to work.  And to say that the law is false, this must be found to be true in just one case.  In that case the truth of B must show that "A" is true, which is that the Law of Identity, or "ID", is false, etc.

But we have to get B already true if we demonstrate that A is true (ID is false) based on B, so we can't just start with (B -> A) to get A, because that would be like saying "There is a condition B, such that if B is true, then A is true, therefore A is true.  That is just as if to say "There is something, rain, such that IF it is raining, then the streets are wet, therefore the streets are wet".  But that is not valid.  This statement right now just says that rain exists in general, and that if it is raining, then the streets are wet.  It doesn't say that it is raining!  So how can we conclude that the streets are wet? Because it is a hypothetical statement, the implication (B -> A) requires an instantiation of the antecedent, B, so as to enable the implication of the consequent, A to come into effect as a conclusion of B actually being true (not just saying 'if').  But for A to be a conclusion of B in a hypothetical implication, it must be taken out of that hypothetical arrangement by the truth of B alone being asserted.   Then the force of truth of the fact of B itself being true will enable what is hypothetically true in the implication, that A is true if B is true, to become a fact.  If we add that B is asserted to be true, so the truth of the antecedent is now provided (so now "B" is not only the "if" part of a hypothetical statement), then therefore the general statement of conditionality, that on the condition of B being true, A must also be true, is instantiated or able to be shown valid in one instance.  That leads to the logical conclusion, which was "A" in our original implication, but only by means of the new premises which comprise the set of statements that are conjoined together into one statement: the hypothetical (B -> A), plus an existential fact, B.  Thus leading to a conclusion which is the consequent of the hypothetical statement, again the consequent being what "follows" the arrow of implication, now follows yet a further implication, which is of that hypothetical arrow being activated by an existing fact.  That fact, in this case, is that B is true.

So we can't say (B -> A) -> A, as this is not an argument.  It is a statement saying what is not true in our interpretation.  That just says that if it is true that, if B is true, then A is true, then A is true.  We have to to assume, or find that it is the case, that B is true in order to complete this into a valid argument.

So we have to say:

   (B -> A)   Our Hypothesis for demonstration of A


    B            Our fact we need to see if this hypothesis is true
   



Now, we need to have "A" result.  So this is to say, 


    (B -> A)

     B

    therefore

     A

As can be seen, now "B" has been expanded to include two premises, one of which is the very fact of B, and the other is the implication that if the fact of B is true, then A would follow.  If both of these are true, then A follows. So to keep these terms distinct from the "set of premises which imply A" by using a different term, this  is now to be called "Bx" instead of just B, so that Bx = [(B -> A) & (B)], and Bx -> A means [(B -> A) & (B)] -> A.

Let's allow this for the moment.  Let's allow it to be true that this was demonstrated.   Let it be true that there is a hypothetical that is itself true, that there is some statement "B" which if true then requires "A" be true, and then let's just assume that B, in fact, is true, enabling that conclusion, A.  Let's see what happens.

It was found that in order for A to be true, and in order for (B -> A) to lead to that by way of demonstration, that it was necessary that we also had to have B itself be true. So (B -> A) and (B) are the premises of the implication, and A is the conclusion.  That looks like this:

[(B -> A) & (B)] -> A

That is, the conjunction of the true premises implies the true conclusion, A.

But that means that whenever and however this is true, that the following is also true:

Because A is the the negation of the law of identity, and the law of identity states that for some statement L representing all possible statements, (L -> L).  so if we take any statement instead of the general schema statement "L", say we take the "B" of this example, then we have A = ~(B -> B), because it is not possibly true now to say (B -> B), since that requires the law of identity to be true, in order for this to be true. So here, A = ~(L -> L) = ~(B -> B).  In other words, if any true statement does not guarantee itself as a true statement, does not imply itself, then no other true statement guarantees itself as a as a true statement.  If it ever happens to be true as a fact that a statement is true, then it just happened to be true for some other reason, or for no reason, but never on the basis that it, itself, was true!  This is the negation of the Law of Identity, and so this is what we must now say if the Law of Identity is proven false.  Now it is "the law of identity", negated...  Sad  And since we negated the Law, it is a lesser law that we have created to replace it which says no premise can guarantee itself as a conclusion, because this sort of law is not guaranteed, and we cannot pick and choose when we want to make up a law "just this once".  If generally, A = ~(L -> L), then specifically, for any B, A = ~(B -> B).  As a further note, to round out the idea here, since A is the negation of the law of identity, then in this construction here the Law of Identity is ~A, which is generally (L -> L), and for the specific case of B, if ~A, then (B -> B).

So since we chose B out of convenience to our proof for a specific instance to use for instantiating A, we use it also to proceed in our investigation with a new formula as follows:

A -> ~(B -> B)


But we know two things now:

[(B -> A) & (B)] -> A



A -> ~(B -> B)


We believe that there is some sort of thing B that, if it is true that B in any given instance, then A is true, so that if we ever find out B, then we would get A. We also know that if we ever had A, then we'd not be able to imply B from B, because A means exactly that.  This will be key to finding out why the Law of Identity is immune to contradiction.  So for that purpose we also need to make sure we agree on an interesting point.


So we know that A = A, right?  I'm not saying that A implies A here, but just that we mean "A", and just "A", whenever and wherever we say "A", and that this meaning doesn't change.  That is the original and logically uninteresting "Law of Identity".  We also already know what it means since it was discussed above.  But let me reiterate the discussion to show how it will help us make a clear demonstration in what follows.


The fact that A = A means that we can, appropriately, say that it is the same A that is the consequent in the first formula, which is then used as an antecedent in the second formula in the two formulas shown above.  But this just says that whenever we deny that the law of identity is true, we are always denying that the law of identity is true, wherever we say it.  In other words, whenever we use the term "A", we always mean what we mean when we use that term elsewhere.  That means that the "A" terms in these formulas are interchangeable, and it will be shown, can bridge their formulas.


Now when we say that the law of identity is false, we aren't just denying that law here and there, but we mean to say that we can guarantee that it cannot be guaranteed that the law of identity is true.  Otherwise the best we have "demonstrated" is that we cannot guarantee that the law of identity is not true in most instances except one, which means we cannot guarantee even one instance of it being found false outside of one instance where it should have applied.  But to falsify a law, we simply need to show that it is broken once under conditions in which it supposedly held true.  So in fact, if we falsify a law in any instance, we falsify its power as a law, and so we falsify its application to any instance.  If what the law described turned out to be true in any instance, it was for perhaps some reason, but not because of the law which stated that it had to be the case in every instance.  What is described then is something that is true for some additional reason, and not because it itself must be true, simply. That is what is claimed to be true by the Law of Identity, and if it is true in any instance, the Law declares that it had to be true, and could not have been false, and this is therefore not limited to any given instance, but takes any instance and applies to it, just as long as the same implication form is in place.


Above it was already claimed that there were conditions in which this could be guaranteed, namely that if B, then A. B, and so A.  That was our demonstration (or we have none).  So let it have been demonstrated.  That means it is now guaranteed not to be true, which means we cannot ever guarantee, not even in one instance, that a premise guarantees itself as a conclusion.  So we know we have the same "A" in both sentences.  It means the same thing when it results from an instantiated conditional which is the antecedent of a conditional statement, just as it does mean that same thing when it is the antecedent of another conditional statement.  We can close that gap then, because we already know that the "A" said twice is the same "A", but said in two places for two reasons.


Since the consequent of the first formula is the guarantee that "A" whenever its antecedents are all true (conjoined together, and all true, as though a set of premises), and that A is "~ID", which is ~(L -> L), and since we know that A is thus guaranteed because it is implied by a true antecedent, then we know that whatever guarantees A also guarantees whatever A guarantees elsewhere, because this is just to keep the law of implication, which it was asserted for the purposes of demonstration could be kept without the law of identity anyway, and which being a logical operator, always acts the same way in all statements. Implications always imply.


In other words, we said we could assert an implication from some antecedent, and that means that if we choose, we can simultaneously use that consequent as an antecedent to imply other consequents with no impedance.  There is nothing to prevent us.  This much common sense must be maintained to demonstrate anything at all.  We must mean what we mean by "A", and always mean that, or we cannot use it in a demonstration to deduce "A" from premises, or imply "A" from antecedents in a conditional formula, or even insist that the meaning of "A" is true, whatever that meaning would happen to be.  In this case, it is ~ID, or the falsehood of the law of identity, in logic.  We say that "A = A", which is to say the use of the term must be consistent in our demonstrations or no demonstration is possible, because our terms otherwise don't mean anything consistently enough to enable a demonstration.  If they do hold with the same meaning whenever they are stated, then they must, and they can't drop that requirement ever, or we have the possibility that the demonstration was false because the terms were not consistent, which is the opposite of a guarantee that a truth is demonstrated.  But this guarantee is required for an implication to be how we defined it, which is necessary for a demonstration in this case.  So for the purposes of any demonstration, terms must be self-same in meaning, such that for any statement "A", and any other statement "A", A = A, in both form and meaning.


I know it is convoluted.  That is why I decided to minimize this thread to the Law of Identity for now.  It started that I would do an example of each one and then do an exegesis on their metaphysical and moral correlations, but I had to pare it down to just one example for now.


So that means if it is the same A in both cases, then we can just splice them into one iteration, and let the consequent in the one sentence serve as the antecedent in the other, because it does do that, by the fact that "A = A", which is the Law of Identity for thought in general, but which I modified for use here in a logical sense.


So that fully justifies us to say the following:

[(B -> A) & (B)] -> A -> ~(B -> B)


Just as whatever implies A, implies that same "A" whenever that A also implies anything else, so this formula, which implies A, implies the same A which also implies this other formula here.


And that means that just as this formula implies A, it implies, through A, anything that A also implies, since these implications all hold simultaneously!!!  (why wouldn't they, since we are talking about truth as such, and laws of truth at that?).


So this means that we can actually say that, in addition to what we have just said, that the premises of A imply, through A, the conclusions of A.  We can actually reduce A to being a mere bridge for another implication which we can state, and therefore take it out of that implication and still be saying a true formula! We don't mean that we don't imply A anymore, in fact we insist that we always do in this situation.  We simply say that we can make an additional statement, a further consequence from this one, namely that:


[(B -> A) & (B)] -> ~(B -> B)


Now remember how we added B separately from our taking (B -> A) to be provisionally true for our demonstration? So really we derived the conjunction seen in the premise here (called an "antecedent" in the first part of an implication formula, but here I have played loose and used "premise" and "antecedent" interchangeably, and also "consequent" and "conclusion", because in this case the antecedent is a set of statements which are premises in an argument, and so a complex statement).  We didn't assume these premises all at once as a conjunction forming one antecedent, but we started by assuming the formula that lets B imply A, which is (B -> A), and then by the Grace of the God of Demonstrations, pretending we found B on a lark, just so we could ensure A, and did all this just so we could see what would happen if it were ever the case that A were demonstrated.  Then we found a case where it makes sense to say something because we found A to be true, namely that formula ~(B -> B), which here is an instance of denying ID more generally as ~(L -> L).  That is where we are.  But since we synthesized the premise here out of granting B, that just means that B is true as well as that formula (which we assumed for the sake of argument, to test some further implications).


Well, that means B is true.

So we can say "B", simply, is true (apart from its conjunction with the other premise).

(NOTE:  This is a reiteration, NOT an implication!)


And just as we can leave out A in the above case, we can leave out that other premise in the antecedent and say, given all the other conditions we just proved and which are still held true, that those, plus B, gives us ~(B -> B). That other premise alone doesn't yield ~(B -> B), and so neither does B alone.  We're not saying that.  But we can say that it is true that in the context of that other premise, that B itself does imply ~(B -> B). Let's agree that we can say it is true, therefore, that B in a premise has resulted in ~(B -> B) in a conclusion, along with other premises in the process.  That means, from B (not only B, but from B in at least part), we arrived at ~(B -> B).  That means we can say there is an "entailment" from B in this context, namely that ~(B -> B) is a consequence of B's being true.  Let us say entailments are implications which are nested in a context that the entailments themselves may leave unstated, but that these entailments, when in their own valid context of unstated (or muted) implications, are also valid implications. That's because implications are always implications, even when one implication depends on a context of others which are left unstated temporarily, or even indefinitely.  After all, perhaps many implications left unstated actually imply B, and so even though we didn't start our demonstration with those, they still allowed us to draw implications by means of B.  Let the symbol for entailment be ~>.


Let's say that if m ~> n then, in some context left unstated but held true, m -> n.

That is to say (m ~> n) -> (m -> n).


So that means that B, known to be true for our demonstration, entails ~(B -> B), and so it also implies it, because entailment is a subset of implication (as I use it here), and so we can say, finally:


Because


B ~> ~(B -> B)


Therefore

B -> ~(B -> B)


That seems quite valid to say, in the context of our other statements in the demonstration (not by itself arbitrarily, or "always", just always in this logical neighborhood of explicit statements, but this will be sufficient for our purposes).

So we know how entailment works to produce special forms of implication which are also just as strong as the implications which support them, at least in the context of the argument that made their construction validly argued (or else in which they were assumed already).

Let us take these two techniques, the transitive property of semantic identity, and the entailment modality of implication, and construct an interesting proof that the demonstration of the falsehood of the law of identity results in implying the Law of Identity!


The implication was discovered valid that:


If (B -> A) and (B), then

[(B -> A) & (B)]


This is to say that in the context of these arguments including (B -> A) as an active premise, asserting B will imply [(B -> A) & (B)].  Therefore B ~> [(B -> A) & (B)].  It was already shown that this would imply B when we demonstrated the property of entailment which allowed us to show that B -> ~(B -> B). Therefore the following logical sequence can be delivered:


B                                     (already assumed)

B ~> [(B -> A) & (B)]       (entailed by the fact that B is part of what implies the introduction of this                                                      conjunction)

B -> [(B -> A) & (B)]     (implied by property of entailment)

[(B -> A) & (B)] -> B     (our rule of conjunction exploitation, the converse of conjunction introduction,                                                 which we already used to get B out to demonstrate that B ~> ~(B -> B), above)


All this gives us, through the transitive property of semantic identity:


B -> [(B -> A) & (B)] -> B


And by simplification as before:


B -> B


But this is an instantiation of the Law of Identity, which has now been resurrected into Glory, through the self-abnegation of its being contradicted by an inferior assertion, which is proven false by this result.  This sets the stage for the second law, which is the Law of Non-Contradiction, in the next example. Interestingly, if (B -> B) is true, then, by using as a substitutive term for B the statement itself as a whole, (B -> B), and by employing the transitive property of semantic identity (the law of identity for thought generally), the following can be shown to be true:

(B -> B) -> (B -> B)


But because ~(B -> B) is of the contrary nature, it cannot lead to such consistency, before or now, i.e., we could never have demonstrated the following:

~(B -> B) -> ~(B -> B)

And that is shown by substituting its own formula into its own terms, which instead gives us the opposite of this:

~[~(B -> B) -> ~(B -> B)]


The Law of Identity validates itself, and is also implied by its own contradiction, but the contradiction of the Law cannot validate its self , but can and does imply what it at first contradicted.

And now it is handy to utilize our understanding of the nature of valid argumentation.

So now, by demonstrating A to be impossible, and so always false, we know that a premise is false, namely Bx, and so we know that either or both (B -> A) and (B) is/are false.  The first could be false because while something called "B" may be true, it would be impossible to infer A from it, since A is shown to be impossible.  On the other hand, "B" could be something impossible, but if it were, then the strange statement "(B -> A)", normally ridiculous, would be made possibly useful in showing A, and so in this way possibly true and assumable for purposes of demonstration.  But the results of this demonstration are not kind for any attempt upon the Dignity of the Law of Identity!  


It has been shown how it is true, also, to say that the Law of Identity is a True Defender of the very rule of implication, perhaps the fundamental cornerstone of Logic, and this because it is the most fundamental implication that is possible to state!  We may imply a lot of fanciful things, and purpose something based on a lot of fanciful reasons, but surely, at least it is true that, if we assume anything, then it ought to imply itself consequently!  After that we must be more careful with our discipline about what we assume in our premises (antecedents), and what other steps we take on the way to our ultimate implication, which will involve many "sub-implications" along the way.  Such a Noble Law of (Logical) Thought indeed~


Many fun examples of those implications can be created, by the way! Icon_koepflerIcon_koepfler


So by proving this Law of Identity through a convoluted, yet interesting mechanical process, we've discovered the fundamental significance of certain properties and rules, and their distinctions, which we take for granted in some of our normal thinking processes, but which when elucidated in the context of fundamental Laws of Logic, demonstrate for us a parallel between Logical Consistency and the Virtue of Honesty, and also demonstrates the Immutability and Immortality of the Glory of Truth, vis-a-vis the impossibility of any attempt to suppress it by way of a vain and arrogant contradiction, which is proven always to be parasitical upon it, and hypocritical in relying upon, and implying what it claims to have usurped.


I hope it wasn't too dense, and if there were any errors of any kind, please feel free to point them out, because I am always trying to improve, and this was meant to improve the reader, not mislead him.


NEXT: I will endeavor to demonstrate the metaphysical and moral significance of the Law of the Excluded Middle.
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Quote:So now, by demonstrating A to be impossible, and so always false, we know that a premise is false, namely Bx, and so we know that either or both (B -> A) and (B) is/are false.  The first could be false because while something called "B" may be true, it would be impossible to infer A from it, since A is shown to be impossible.  On the other hand, "B" could be something impossible, but if it were, then the strange statement "(B -> A)", normally ridiculous, would be made possibly useful in showing A, and so in this way possibly true and assumable for purposes of demonstration.  But the results of this demonstration are not kind for any attempt upon the Dignity of the Law of Identity!  It has been shown how it is true, also, to say that the Law of Identity is a True Defender of the very rule of implication, perhaps the fundamental cornerstone of Logic, and this because it is the most fundamental implication that is possible to state!  We may imply a lot of fanciful things, and purpose based on a lot of fanciful reasons, but surely, at least it is true that, if we assume anything, then it ought to imply itself consequently!  After that we must be more careful with our discipline about what we assume in our premises (antecedents), and what other steps we take on the way to our ultimate implication, which will involved many "sub-implications" along the way.  Such a Noble Law of Thought indeed~


Many fun examples of those implications can be created, by the way[Image: icon_koepfler.gif][Image: icon_koepfler.gif]

How about some fun examples.

Remember that A was demonstrated, by a simple set of intuitively obvious rules, to be impossible.  Indeed, it is not really a criticism to say I used to many "ad hoc" or "ad lib"rules, since in fact it took a lot of generosity to allow A to be proven in the first place.  We had to lay down the hypothesis that it was true, or even possibly true, with the statement "(B -> A)", which assumes it is even possible for something of the sort "B" to exist!  This was necessary so that, when such a B were ever found, it would be the "sufficient reason" for A, and so serve as a minimal sort of demonstration.  Remember also that arbitrarily asserting something is itself no demonstration at all.  Why?  Obviously, if we can arbitrarily assert just anything, then we can... arbitrarily assert just anything.  That means that I can ignore this assertion and stick to my own assertions, arbitrarily, and do no injustice to the other assertion.  And if my own assertion is built upon a framework of logical analyses which demonstrate that in the realm of clear thought it is the clear winner between itself and its opposite assertion, then that is gold.  And to accept arbitrarily that it is not, that is, to accept the opposite assertion, is to arbitrarily give up something of value, which is to say for no good reason.  Sensible people just don't.

I'm being generous even in my logical acrobatics here.  Avicenna said that people who didn't want to admit logical laws should not be allowed to speak in the presence of those who do, and if they did attempt to do so without recanting their absurdity, then they should be subjected to the consequences of their own claims...  He said they should be beaten until they admit that "beating is not the same as not beating" and burned until they admit that "burning is not the same as not burning".  I think he was, like myself in a lot of cases, ranting, but actually, in a way, being serious. A slap and hot lighter might be sufficient, but that would depend on how much a nuisance the fool was being.

Avicenna was speaking of the Law of Contradiction, usually stated second in the Laws of (Logical) Thought.  For the Law of Identity, in the amusing style of Avicenna (who was clearly inspired by the terse Wisdom of our Beloved Aristotle, the meanest of the Big Three later Greek philosophers when it came to dismissing stupidity), I will offer a remedy for those who don't stomach the Law of Identity:

  Take from them their valuables until they admit that they are their valuables!  When they attempt to admit this, ask them if "these are their valuables", and if they admit it, then we say, "you have admitted that these are your valuables.  If this were taken to be true, would you admit that these are, because of that admission of truth, in fact your valuables?"  This is a confirmation of the truth that these are their valuables, and it is an application of the Law of Identity.  If they refuse to admit it, then keep taking their valuables nonchalantly.  If they insist that you stop, then pause and ask them again if these are their valuables... etc.  Eventually, they will get the point that if we claim a truth, it implies that the claim is true, otherwise it does not imply this, and we can reasonably ignore the notion.

  This is a sort of application of the Law of Exclusion as well, because we have said here, in effect "If there is something, it either is, or is not true, and not some third alternative).  Therefore, if we deny one of these alternatives, we must accept the other.  And if we don't claim one to be the case, then the other one may still be open!  And further, if we demonstrate one of these to be the case, we rule out the alternative, but that is the Law of Contradiction.   So in this case, if he won't allow that stating that these are his valuables indeed implies that self-same assertion, then he must deny that it implies that... and if it denies that implication, it literally asserts that if these are his valuables then it may as well imply that they are not... because implication states that this one thing is above all else impossible, namely that we can derive a falsehood from a truth.  It doesn't convert any falsehood into anything but more falsehood, and it may, strangely in most cases, imply a truth from a falsehood, but it never ever allows a falsehood to follow from a truth, that is simply not what it does, and it is the only thing it doesn't do of those alternatives available to a truth function.

  So, if our unfortunate interlocutor will not allow us to imply that these are his valuables from his declaration that they are, then how can we do otherwise than imply that they are not his valuables in the first place.  In that case we must insist that if they are not, then they are not.  But if he insists that this Law of Identity is precisely what he won't allow, then we simply check with him to be sure:  will you admit that if you don't allow the Law of Identity that it is implied to us that indeed, you do not allow it?  If he says yes, to get what he wants (he thinks), then we say, but this is the Law of Identity.  Since this is what you don't allow, you do not imply that you don't allow it, and so we are free to assume that you don't disallow it.  By last reports we inferred that you implied to us that these are not your valuables, so we'll proceed to take them, excuse us.

  Funny isn't it?   Icon_2lol
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Remember the notion that we were quite generous to supply the implication (B -> A)?  That really was a generous offer, since really it is the most basic, unelaborate way to to demonstrate that something follows from something else already given.  But even here, we found that our gracious offerings were insufficient for the appetite of the proponent of incoherence.  He doesn't go out and find a B we can use to make this demonstration more effective, and we understand his predicament, so we supply it arbitrarily.  We have arbitrarily asserted the possibility of such a demonstration, and then gave, as an additional garnish, a sufficient piece of evidence to demonstrate it.  We didn't even specify what that evidence is, or how it will qualify as demonstration of A (how will it "imply" A?). We just gave these things freely. 

So were we too greedy on our part to utilize good sense with the ideas about the rules of transitivity and entailment, which in fact would have been understood instantly if we hadn't mentioned them and just used them?  Well, entailment was a little weird at first, but we explained the context as being "functionally specious" and didn't insist that it would be valid outside of the arguments in which it was constructed, and even demonstrated how it is a meaningful extension of the probates of implications everywhere and in a great multitude "left unstated" in all our arguments!  Indeed, we are all doing this simply because we wanted to demonstrate, and to demonstrate anything, these intuitions had to be accepted!  Implication and transitivity are fundamental rules of basic thinking, even if it is incoherent generally, but in places held together.  Those places where it is held together are protected by these sorts of rules as if by warlord rulers from the more wild and destructive kinds of absurdity which surround them!

Well he accepted our generosity, why should we not grant ourselves a minor taste of our own luxuries.  It would seem rude not to, at the least,  Indeed, it is a sign of sharing and filial warmth to embrace these rules with explanation.  Should the proponent of incoherence always mean by his position, "incoherence", as defined as the negation of the Law of Identity?  Should he stick to that meaning everywhere he insists on that term, "A"?  He might call  it the Law of Yin and Yang, so be it.  But it is always the same meaning in that way as he insists on using it.

As Laozi, and later Wittgenstein have stated, if this thing we truly know, then upon this thing we do not speak, or if on these things we cannot (consistently) speak, then upon these things "we should remain silent".  But if we must speak, we must speak coherently, or be not understood, or ignored, or shunned as unintelligible.  I suggest that the transitivity of meaning between and across reiterations of a term is the only basis by which language can be used, even insofar as its meanings and usages are variable.  The understanding held in common is that there is an understanding, held in common.  And this is the minimum understanding that is "held in common".  It is commonly understood that... this is the case...

Well, we have done our part with that, and with entailment, it is not a complicated thing.  It is like not forgetting whose table you are sitting at when you are a guest, and realizing that if you ask "to pass the salt", you are asking a host, and not a guest.  We are not forgetting that, and indeed because we have noted it so well, we are entitled to say that "the salt is being passed" implies it is being passed in the context in which it is being passed, and not arbitrarily.  Everything in that context, for that context, implies that the salt is being passed, and that salt being passed implies everything else in its context.  We found that "the host passes the guest the salt" implies "the guest receives the salt from the host", and so we broke no rule in this context by saying, as if in shorthand, that "the salt was passed to the guest" implies that "the guest receives the salt from the host", in this context. We can test it by assuming the contrary, looking back to find the fact which contradicts it, and then we can rest easy in this logical neighborhood, if not the whole universe, knowing that this implication holds true because it is entailed by the implications of the context in which it is stated.

And by these little rules, not arbitrarily created "ad hoc", but explicitly formulated from our already common and working intuitions, we simply took a common understanding and used it explicitly and formally.  How polite!   Icon_zylinder

We could have just believed it ourselves, insisted upon it, and if anyone didn't like it or agree we could not be accused of being cryptic and inconsistent!  Unlike certain interlocutors...

So we are doing a bash up job of demonstrating A, and then by that same diligence, finding that A implies ~A, and so starting with the contradiction of the Law of Identity, we ended up with the Law of Identity.  Likewise, starting with the Law of Identity, by its own definition, we also end up with the Law of Identity.  Since no matter how we start, we end up with the same result, that the Law of Identity is the only logical conclusion to uphold, and the only one which upholds itself by non-self-refutation, we duly admire its Nobility.


That said, we now know that ~ID is not really a valid anti-king in this domain, and we know certainly that it is no king at all, anywhere.  But here for sure, in the realm of clear and proper thinking, it is a... joker...

So let the joker entertain!  Icon_steckenpferd

Let us posit for these terms we already supplied so generously, specific contents which are for us amusing to follow, since we went through such labors already to ensure we would be absurd to do otherwise by them!

let B stand for something impossible, and let (B -> A) stand for some hypothesis we would base upon it, which would seem incredible, but because of the iron laws of logical consistency, are nevertheless implied into existence as if by magic (to appear from a flash of light), but as we know, their basis is self-defeating, so we in the same atmosphere, will witness this illusion disappear (in a puff of smoke).

If donkeys fly then Weird Al Yankovic is the King of England
Donkeys fly!
We present his mmmmmasjestay..Weird Al Yankovic, the King of England (Royal trumpets announce the obviously absurd) Icon_kinggrin  

"Bravo, bravo"  Icon_lol

If there are pots of gold, then unicorns exist!
There are pots of gold!
UNICORNS.. DO..  EXIST!!!  Icon_el (Enchanting music fades in and out with their galloping)

Errr, close enough... 

"Oooh, aaaaaahhh"   Icon_klatsch

If I have the Keys to the Kingdom, then I have the Keys to the Kingdom
I have the Keys to the Kingdom!
Therefore, it is God's own Truth, that I have the Keys to the Kingdom 
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"Oooh wow, how'd he do that!" Icon_eek  "Yaaayyyy"  
 

"SSSSHHHHH"  Icon_schiefguck   
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If I am an emissary from the Higher Realitay, then MY ENERJAYS are Antivalent toward evil! 
I AM an emissary from the Higher Reality (take it.... hrrrrmph, or llllllllllleave it....)   
MY ENERJAYS, are efficaciously adverse to evil, and SOOOOTHING to the Good 


If MY ENERJAYS... are Antivalent (toward evil), then those who find me insipid are doomed! 
MY ENERJAYS... hm hm hm....  ARE, indeed, Antivalent (toward evil)
SO, no one may find my insipidity grating upon their senses, save that they ARE DOOMED...   



TAKE IT-uh.......  OR LEAVE IT-uh........  Icon_klugscheisser



"Woooowww!!! His PONTIFICES..." Icon_shocked  "Aye that... Icon_skeptisch   "Aye, and his LOGIC, so precise"...  Icon_glassball


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This thread will be fun reading for Christmas Day!   lol  You've outdone yourself with this entertaining presentation. Pretty cheeky of you to apply Icon_lupe principles of logic onto the dominions governed by the FAITH...the final frontier.

It's certainly a fast way of breaking into their control tower. The You'll just have to trust me, Take it or leave it, if you
 
don't "resonate with this" then you're not pure enough jive.
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(12-24-2014, 11:37 PM)Elizabeth Wrote: This thread will be fun reading for Christmas Day!   lol  You've outdone yourself with this entertaining presentation. Pretty cheeky of you to apply Icon_lupe principles of logic onto the dominions governed by the FAITH...the final frontier.

It's certainly a fast way of breaking into their control tower. The You'll just have to trust me, Take it or leave it, if you
 
don't "resonate with this" then you're not pure enough jive.

I am glad you like it.  I love this "FAITH... the final frontier"...

THESE ARE THE VOYAGES!!!

Yes, the New Age have a subtler approach, they preface their books with the claims of Light and Love, and that the energy is encoded in the pages for you...  etc...

But you don't have to accept any of it they say, you can just take "what resonates with you"...
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Lol, I still haven't studied your posts on logic yet and am a little resistant but I think employing these principles will be a cure for lazy thinking. It might not be exactly lazy thinking though because for decades I've been submerged in 'New Age Magical Thinking' and that has probably set me up for some resistance to the slower, methodical, step by step, (yawn) logical approach. Either that or it was a natural fit because my intuition works in a nanosecond and is easy...a bit like cheating. It is not foolproof however.

I'm game and think I can do this. When dealing with the unseen world we must apply logic to the manifest symptoms; it will be tricky but not impossible.

(((RESONANCE))) that means you've hit the truth - lol!
                       (((NO ONE CAN TAKE YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AWAY FROM YOU))) hehe

Really, us human beans have been playing Blindman's Buff groping around the aether like buffoons for too long. Enough is enough.
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(12-25-2014, 06:51 PM)Elizabeth Wrote: Lol, I still haven't studied your posts on logic yet and am a little resistant but I think employing these principles will be a cure for lazy thinking. It might not be exactly lazy thinking though because for decades I've been submerged in 'New Age Magical Thinking' and that has probably set me up for some resistance to the slower, methodical, step by step

Logic can be thought of in various ways beyond the way it is functionally defined by logicians.  It has very magical properties to it in the way it is a process of thought that thinks of its own form and analyzes that form after subtracting the contents, until the form itself is a content.  Then it thinks itself as a set of processes that think their own form further and further by checking conventional thought patterns to see if they fit the ideal thought patterns in various ways, and it also evolves to try and see if it can formalize more kinds of thought into a system that can be made into a mechanical shorthand (it is still only a shorthand for the mind which experiences thought, never able to replace it at the input and output levels).

Logic has a dreamy quality about it with regard to its being thought projected out into an image of itself, and it causes thought to have a way of reflecting on itself without objects to hold it down.  In this way it is like daydreaming or fantasizing.  Also, because it has a special property of consistency, it can be made artificially more complex than the mind that thinks it, and then the mind can go into its creation and analyze it and see that, yes, it is really the consistent same as the simpler form, it really is true that system is stable.  By this means analytical and synthetic thoughts are involved, intuitions and feelings are a part.  The mind "feels" its thoughts, and preens their systemic structures without being burdened by contents that evoke this or that situation or event in the real world (unless we so desire).  And when we do, we have marvelously better efficacy in dealing with those matters clearly as far as the logic is concerned, freeing our mind to better handle the other parts of the matter without being burdened by uncertainties in the logical analyses.  

We can open up thorny and convoluted issues and find their essential difficulties, so this gives our mind more confidence, ease, and less stress.  It is therapeutic as well as orderly and structured.  Plus, it builds on its basics.  If one can understand the laws of thought, which are but three, and if one can grasp the basic operations of normal first-order logic which analyzes ordinary language (and doesn't get very philosophical), then that is enough for a lifetime of benefits.  And then, if one wishes, one can go higher without as much difficulty as one might have thought at the beginning.  Logical thinking is an art form, not only a science.  I suspect that the nervous pathways which it stimulates are therapeutic for dealing with certain kinds of stress, certainly in the long run.  It probably strengthens the orbitofrontal cortex, especially the left lateral aspect of it.  And that strengthens "Machiavellian thinking", which is normally missing in Good people, but needs to be strengthened in order to get a grip on the mechanics of dealing with the stressful situations we live with.  I think you have a lot of talent in the raw facilities required, so even a cursory study would be beneficial for you.  

I think in my earlier life I was way more into daydreaming about aesthetics than doing any logical work.  I got into logic in my later teens.  And even then, I didn't get into higher logic until my late twenties, early thirties (I'm now 38).  Now I'm just kicking it up a notch.  It goes way further than I've gotten yet.
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(12-24-2014, 11:37 PM)Elizabeth Wrote: This thread will be fun reading for Christmas Day!   lol  You've outdone yourself with this entertaining presentation. Pretty cheeky of you to apply Icon_lupe principles of logic onto the dominions governed by the FAITH...the final frontier.

It's certainly a fast way of breaking into their control tower. The You'll just have to trust me, Take it or leave it, if you
 
don't "resonate with this" then you're not pure enough jive.

"If there is not mutual resonance with my gobbly gook of absurd claims about myself and my other grandstanding, dramatic posing, then it is because the non-resonant person is too impure".  I think I needed to stress the causal claim he is making, but didn't stress it enough.  He's making a causal claim in his assertions.

So he's actually making a harder claim than a logical one, where we never assume cause, but only a consistence of correlation between the dependency of what comes before with what comes after, only in this:  The former (the if clause) happens only when it is also true that the latter (the "then" clause) happens.



We can easily be right about an "if-then" statement as to the facts which occur consistently enough to make it seem true (up to a point), but to jump from that to a causal claim is a huge step, especially when his terms are confused and without merit for being taken as serious.



For example:  it may be the case that "if the street lights are on, then it is night", but it is not then implied that it is because it is night.  It is because they were programmed to be on at a time which happens to coincide with the fact that it is (or is soon to be) night.  THAT is the cause of the streetlights being on.  As to the cause of people programming them that way, it is because they have a reason, and that reason has to with the fact that they want them to be on during the night.  In fact, the reason they are on at night is really, in some cases, that they are programmed to be on before nightfall, for the further reason that if there are a series of them not working, they can fix that problem before nightfall.  That means that the reason the streetlights are on is because they are turned on before nightfall with the intention to ensure that they are on during the night, to included cases when they might malfunction and need some troubleshooting.  Yet, all these causes have causes, and so on.  But none of this prevents us from saying that:  "if the streetlights are on, then it is (or is soon to be) nightfall"!  



But with a donkey like Mr. Chiappalone (does he even still practice?), as we know, it's a "take it or leave it" proposition...  Bleh.
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