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The Physics of Santa and His Reindeer
#11
Ah...you're just wishy-washy and you hate everything on this planet anyway.
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#12
Hmmm…speaking about teaching kids the truth must have struck a nerve in you. Couldn’t you and your kids enjoy the holiday season and know the truth about Santa? You don’t need to believe in Santa to enjoy a holiday.
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#13
Richard Wrote:Hmmm…speaking about teaching kids the truth must have struck a nerve in you. Couldn’t you and your kids enjoy the holiday season and know the truth about Santa? You don’t need to believe in Santa to enjoy a holiday.
true, i think that santa causes kids to think of christmas more as a material thing rather than being with your family and having good times(the true reason for holidays, in my opinion)
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#14
 

I felt betrayed by the deception of Christmas as a child, and it had nothing to do with Santa, it was that my parents had lied to me.  Yes I agree that Christmas is just a big excuse to max out the credit card and most people do not enjoy it as they are so stressed from not knowing what gifts to give! Because Christmas is a holiday it should be a time to get together, eat great food and just enjoy the company of those that you love.  
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#15
I remember having to do 'lines' in year 3 because i was telling everyone that Santa wasn't real.

here's how it happened.

the teachers were trying to tell me that santa wasn't real outside of class after a fight broke out between myself and a 'believer'. 

I was crying telling the teacher that i knew he was saint nicholas, but my broken english didn't get it through their heads that i already knew and gave me lines for disrupting the class anyway.

they sent home a letter to my mom telling her to explain to me about santa claus, which of course made no difference because i already knew - the teachers just didn't understand that i did.

so now i have a huge dillema, and this is the will of myself and my wife, against the whole friqn family! they all want to do christmas and santa BS, and calling me a 'rotten egg' if i recall, for not wanting to do it.

of course explaining to them the 'satanic' connection and illuminati control to celebrate the feast of saturnalia makes them roll their eyes and of course, they make a phone call, and then most likely get the men in white at the front door pinning me down and wrapping one of those nice tight jackets that prevent my arms from moving and straight into a padded cell....you get my drift?

so having to tackle this situation with the whole 'industry trying to make money out of every holiday, mothers day, fathers day - soon to have grandmothers day, and pets day', i was a little more convincing, then i get the grandmother stating an apparent obvious fact 'well you cannot change the world, so why bother' type remark, which of course makes steam come out of my ears, the ignorance that one person cannot make a change.

then i bring about the remark that 'hitler was one man' and realising that it wasn't such a great example and getting the look of death from the relatives...having to change it too 'and so was....um... Saint Nicholas' which brought a lightbulb about their heads and of course, relaxation filled my entire being... did i just get through to them?

of course not. christmas is coming this year and because i'm a few tons overweight, they called me the other week asking me to be friqn SANTA and dress up in that friqn red ho ho ho outfit.

i said if they want to be pedantic about the whole suit thing, that we should make it a green suit since that was the first colour of santas outfit, and that i should ask the kids to leave a glass bottle of coca cola instead of milk and cookies, since apparently this was the green santas favourite advertisement.

to cut a long story short.

christmas celebrations are fun for the kids, as long as they continue to open presents every minute till the next christmas comes along, until we've burn holes in our wallets and pockets, have no money left and starving for a few weeks after christmas because you needed to spend the shopping money for the presents as a year ago - you and your wife made a decision that you wouldn't save any money as it was a satanistic celebration and didn't want any part of it, but all in all, it still comes to the relatives who can manipulate your feelings going 'what about the children' remarks, so we're now going in full circle, totally pissed off that you have no control over what your children can or cannot do as the rellies like to push 'custom' in your face......

so back to where i started, i still dont know what to do....

should i wear the red suit or the green one?

ps. i saw a guy wearing a santa suit last christmas on the corner of the street, ringing his bell (sweating his arse off as its summer), and this nice lady walks past, and he just happens to say 'ho' once as she walks past and wonders why he got a slap on the face for it.  I yelled "should have stuck to the routine mate, and say Ho Ho Ho, if you say it once, you're bound to get a slap"....ok i didn't really see that, but it was good joke off the TV show "Becker".


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#16
  I dont believe having and believing in Christmas made me a better person.  I was a spoiled brat at the time and every other kid that i knew was too......

  I loved when I found out the truth about Santa and all of the holiday stuff......  As of my whole life is part Act, actor, I put on Santa suite last year but only for a photo shoot for a song....  But I did not do anything for Christmas....

  I would rather believe in the truth and have no regrets falling out of fantasy land! :)
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#17
I agree William,

But I would have really enjoyed being a spoiled brat just for one day as a child, the grass is greener…

Lion,

Funny!

Outlaws (relatives/in-laws) are always a good way to test your own belief system, why get upset? They are not ever going to listen.

The one very important factor of parenting that most never consider is that this precious child chose you both as her parents, why? What can you give her that the other 5 billion people in the world could not? You must have some strength that she requires to fulfill her life-stream.

You do have a certain amount of control as her father, that control is within you and really has nothing to do with anyone else. Compromising is always a great solution, hate to say it but one day you will be the father in-law.

Holiday times can be fun if you turn them around, you do not have to worship or be lost in the magical garden, and it’s about unity and togetherness. Being upset during these times can actually be worse than celebrating them.

I like mothers and fathers day, its a good way to say thank you. 
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#18
Astrojewels,

yes - our daughter did choose us, it boggles my mind why?!?!? we've had problems from day 1, but you wouldn't believe it, since her birth, she was always with her grandmother, but now.... for the last 4 months, she has lived with my wife and I, and tell you what, thats one huge achievement - and it took 3 years to do it!

hahah so no - not really, it doesn't boggle my mind, she has taught me many things, and one is: that at 3 years old - they can still be manipulative!

you know mothers day and fathers day, i only get upset about these days because i am forced to have to celebrate (more so by guilt factor from the parent/partner), but if people would choose any day automatically to give their parent/partner a pressie or a special gesture, that would be better :)

take care :)
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#19
Lion,

Problems? This word is merely a restriction in your mind -challenges are the construction of wisdom. Children are a true blessing, but because they a reflection of you, the challenge is often to change yourself in order to enlighten the child. When they are little they are driven by the base chakra and influenced by the energy of prehistoric senses – territory and individuality, this is why they have a need for tantrums and control. Little girls have the gift of speech very young and talk with such clarity and directness. Steer her from red food or red colors, enhance blues and soft greens, this will encourage a more balanced energy.

It is not until they get to puberty and their individual programming is enhanced that real trouble begins and your ability to accept the challenge will be pushed to its limits.

Why did she choose us? Maybe her life is not just to enhance the parents; the birth of your child could very well be about tightening the relationship of your wife and her mother – the grandmother. My own experience is what my mother has given to my children and the many things she could not give to me as a daughter, and that was mostly ‘her time’.

I understand how you feel compelled by holidays, I once wore your shoes but I turned the energy of those days around to gratify my life and not follow society or the standard expected, you get used to being that nail that stands out and others learn that you are not going to bend and eventually they do not expect you to.
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