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...and, Xanthas, I have appreciated your passion, for sure. I was happy to have you back again even tho I was not here before your departure, I read your former posts. I do appreciate and value your feedback.
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Actually listening to the entire video is not necessary if one is not interested in the subject matter. My point was not to judge without seeing it.
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Ok, I typed in "David Wilcock is a fraud"... I'm still listening to the video you posted up here Sifter... (I can't watch him... I do not like his energy).
Basically, he's repackaging what Edgar Cacey referred to as 'Akashic Records' or is more commonly known as 'cosmological knowledge' by the indigenous tribes around the world. His 'renaming' of "Source Field Energy" is just energy, plain and simple, because energy is fluid and never static.
His 'science' is what at best can be referred to as 'junk science'.
There's an excellent book that explains the simultaneous discoveries of seemingly 'new' inventions: "The Cosmic Serpent" by Jeremy Narby. It taps into the symbology of the snake but also the DNA strand and the ability to tap into that vast cosmological 'Source' that is the Universe.
The indigenous tribes of South America have had access to this for over 10,00 years and have been using plants to 'tune into' the astral, as well as strict dietary processes in complete solitude, living off the jungle and learning to communicate with plants.
The Kogi in the Santa Marta mountains of northern Colombia call the cosmolofgical Source of Edgar Cayce the 'Aluna', or the 'mirror world'. The shamans are being taught from early on (3 years of age) to 'see' outside the physical 'reality'. They are the only tribe that have managed to evade the Spanish Conquistadores for the last 5-600 years and have never been conquered by them due to their ability to 'see them moving' in the Aluna. The children are put in a darkened cave, fed, and cared for but never allowed to leave as long as the training to become a proper shaman lasts. The isolation allows to tap into and develop these extra-sensory abilities to an extraordinary degree because there are no outside influences.
As to remote viewing being in any fashion 'positive manipulation' it is still interference of free will with the subject or, the guinea pig.
Astral travelling happens every night when we go to sleep. The "pineal gland" Wilcock keeps referring to is the third, or 'psychic' eye.
I also find it peculiar that he 'sells' the 2012 Maya hype. That's a give-away that he's firmly in the camp of "we're all going to raise our consciousness". He reminds me of the other David - Icke. The Maharishi that he mentions, the Beatles turned to, was a controversial guru.
BTW, Wilcock looks like Julian A$$ange (the 'founder' of the now extremely fallen from grace, questionable and controversial "Wikileaks"), like a blood sucked, gauntly vampire victim with the exact same bleached hair, right down to the style. Weird, that.
I had an inkling that I wasn't going to be overwhelmed by his speech. The fact that there are so many links popping up exposing him as a fraud, is another matter all together, but worth mentioning nonetheless.
Wilcock is in stark contrast to Alex Collier's predictions. Unlike Wilcock, Collier warns us that if we do not begin to take responsibility for our own progress, we'll be bringing a few hundred years of complete dictatorship, oppression and enslavement onto ourselves and that although there are non-planetary beings trying to help us, it's still up to humanity itself to rise up to the challenge.
In other words, he doesn't "coddle" the gullible into the a phantasy of "someone will come and save our lazy bums!" He mentions that there is a possibility to be mentored if we are prepared to grow in the process but that this will not be a kind "easy peasy, lemon squeezy" cakewalk.
Knowing what's going on at this stage, Collier seems to have a lot more credibility and a no nonsense kind of realism than all the so-called "After 2012, we'll all be happy, clappy earthlings living a divine existence of expanded consciousness of love, light, brotherhood and immortality."
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I read the Cosmic Serpent years ago and it's a fantastic book! The indigenous tribes actually tap into what Wilcock and others call The Source Field and the author checked the properties of those same plants in labs scientifically which verified what the shamans gleaned on their own.
I also read the Hundredth Monkey Syndrome, which is what he's talking about accessing the Source Field, when an arbitrary number of people grock something, that it's available for anyone to tap into.
I was able to watch Wilcock's entire presentation because he name drops (gives credit) to certain other discoverers, basically pulls together other's people's works (which many authors do) but I do hear you about his take on 2012 etc. I just listen for the little gems he mentions and leave the rest.
There is a lot of energy science going on, it's not all bunk for sure.
And, I'm with you regarding Alex Collier and the responsibility issue of action. Totally with you and I would like to see him speak more often.
And, another thing... IF there are extraterrestrials and interdimensionals, seems to me that the ratio of good to bad would parallel what we see in the world. A few psychopaths here (powerful yes) controlling the majority of of peace loving people.
Interesting comments about he and Julian Assange.
I wouldn't say that Wilcock is going around trying to deceive people, he does a pretty good job of dot connecting and of course, he admits when he's speculating and his message is uplifting as well, it's tone is not dreadful.
You know? It's clear to me that the purpose of the new age and fringe stuff is all meant to drive it home, how that no one can trust anyone and you're damned pressed to get to the bottom of anything... all meant to condition you into total apathy, helplessness and hopelessness. Whatcha think?
Hey, thanks for taking the time to write out your thoughts!
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Sifter Wrote:And, I'm with you regarding Alex Collier and the responsibility issue of action. Totally with you and I would like to see him speak more often. Yes. So do I. But then again, his absence is in a sense 'proof' of him not doing the rounds of the "Have I got news for you!" speakers.... Which gives it more weight when he does decide to speak up.
Quote:IF there are extraterrestrials and interdimensionals, seems to me that the ratio of good to bad would parallel what we see in the world.
I'm not sure I would agree with you regarding this upbeat pov... More sticking with what Collier has repeatedly been saying that the draco and their minions are hell-bent (literally) on keeping the grip on this planet and tightening it further because they feel entitled to having colonised planet earth first before any other species ever 'set foot' on this planet.
Quote: Interesting comments about he and Julian Assange.
Have you seen pictures of him? Even the hands are eerily similar... Very feminine hands...
Quote:It's clear to me that the purpose of the new age and fringe stuff is all meant to drive it home, how that no one can trust anyone and you're damned pressed to get to the bottom of anything... all meant to condition you into total apathy, helplessness and hopelessness. Whatcha think?
I disagree. If at all, it is teaching us to take responsibility for what we 'believe' in and who we endorse. Whether consciously, or unconsciously...
It's a process of shedding that which is not applicable as we go along. One of the books that had the most profound effect on me back in 1997/8 was given to me as a present by a former self-acclaimed 'Grand Master' (I refused to become his bedtime bunny...which is why past tense applies...) of a Korean sect.
Although I found out later that this book was not necessarily 'channelled' as claimed by the author (one Phyllis V. Schlemmer) and spoke of 'The Council Nine' (the whole group behind the book's "writing" "The Only Planet of Choice" relates directly to the Tavistock institute, Andreja Puharich and Stanford Research), it certainly taught me that 'choice' is indeed vital in creating our own lives, starting with who and what we choose to fill our minds (!) with, let our consciousness flow and as we become more aware, starting to dig underneath the surface of our mind patterns, our conditioning, our worldviews and why we believe what we do.
In this context then again, Alex Collier is a prime example of admitting that we are imprisoning ourselves by holding on to our 'dogmas' - that we all have them to a greater or lesser extent and that it is this stubbornly holding on to our 'cherished beliefs, ideas, convictions, faith systems or worldviews' (dogmas) that creates so much misery in our own relationships and the people around us.
So in contrast, I do not agree that it is just solely designed to leave us all helpless, dis-empowered, totally apathetic and completely unable to trust 'somebody' else.
Ultimately, the real challenge and path is to become fully self-aware and independent from anybody else's "isms" to the degree that one is able to listen to someone without being affected by what they say because one knows one's own connection to the All-That-Is can never be touched by any of these 'outside' influences. Intellectual independence is only one part of the process.
The real independence lies in spiritual and emotional independence when you know that you do not need somebody else's "input" as a crutch to define who you are or decide and make a choice as to what is best for you.
One can appreciate what they have to offer, but one is not dependent on them to make a good, "fitting to your immediate circumstances and where you find yourself in your evolutionary process" choice. When we have become truly self-aware and conscious of our place in the greater scheme of things, we do not need to pay tons of money to listen to half-a**ed, lukewarm, ill researched topics but know how to find this on our own, knowing, too, that we can change and adapt what we have found when it no longer applies...thus staying fluid in the process.
Coupled with intuition, genuine faith and trust in ourselves and what it is we need ( not what we want!), we can make our choices and move when it is perfect, not because somebody else 'thinks' or 'tells you' that "you have to wait until xyz" (Nibiru, KBS, Elenin, 2012, fill in as the mood strikes or whatever else pops up at this moment) has passed, come, or gone by but because we know in our deepest centre of our Beingness, that it is right.
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"I disagree. If at all, it is teaching us to take responsibility for what we 'believe' in and who we endorse. Whether consciously, or unconsciously...
It's a process of shedding that which is not applicable as we go along..."
I would certainly agree that is the after affects of coming back out of a few rabbit holes.... but when you're IN a rabbit hole, it looks quite different.
Eloquently and succinctly written, and I'm happy to share many of your sentiments though I am not as gifted a writer as you Xanthas. I do enjoy the content and manner of your style.
And even though it is a minority of controllers, they ARE quite powerful and effective as we can clearly see in our world.
Still, it's clear to me that many people are apathetic and not moved much to get involved in real action and are not operating with critical thinking skills. I hear it repeated often "I don't worry about things I have no control over."
I have never nor will I spend my money on Wilcock's books or DVDs, seminars or whathaveyou. Still I do appreciate some of what he has to say. There is bias or skewed data somewhere in just about any speaker or writer's offerings.
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