The nine

[Guest]

ok, so there are various archetypes in the healer's handbook about this. but talking about it with people has shown me that no one quite understands it. now i'm not sure exactly even how it is that they work. i know it is very intrinstrical with the pineal. and also that it is what aliens use to monitor the earth, through machine. 9 original mind patterns that eminate from God-mind. now i guess my main question, knowing this is "do they speak"? i think it may a good explanation for why we may sometimes hear vioces.

[Guest]

Hello, VioletDolphin.

There a number of people claiming to have spoken with the Nine. I believe in BBTB or Montauk: Alien Connection, Stewart Swerdlow claims to having spoken with the Nine on occasions earlier in his career (I'm not sure if this is the right reference but it is mentioned in one of his books).

Uri Gellar also, among others, claims to have spoken with the Nine (http://www.uri-geller.com/books/maverick/maver8.htm)

There's tons of freely available information, of varying quality, out there on the internet. More than enough to address your question of "Do they speak".

I think the more important question is "If the Nine speak, who do they speak to and how?"

Also, read the information on how the Nine became the Nine.

I don't think The Nine is a valid explanation for why people hear voices (or see visions or insert the blank) because I don't think it can be reasonably stated that hearing voices has a single root cause - it can come from many varieties of internal and external sources (technology) and phenomanae and may have a mystical root or a root in programming or delusion/mental instability. The cases are very varied.

Even if the Nine exist and do speak, I suspect it's only to select individuals of any given population and doesn't make sense to me as a 'solution for the masses'.

[Guest]

well, the nine are computerized mind patterns. but stewart says he was visited by the actual nine. i don't really get it, but i guess it would make sense in some way. hmm... the achetypes for the pineal are also "council of the nine" which means it's gotta be possible without being a big deal. visited bby a group of peopel that refer to themselves as the earthly pineal or whatever would be scary i think. there's also a goldcancel multiply council of the nine, so i don't even know for sure. used in concious awareness all these archetypes re pretty powerful.

[Octahedron]

Michael wrote:

I think the more important question is "If the Nine speak, who do they speak to and how?"

Also, read the information on how the Nine became the Nine.

I don't think The Nine is a valid explanation for why people hear voices (or see visions or insert the blank) because I don't think it can be reasonably stated that hearing voices has a single root cause - it can come from many varieties of internal and external sources (technology) and phenomanae and may have a mystical root or a root in programming or delusion/mental instability. The cases are very varied.

Even if the Nine exist and do speak, I suspect it's only to select individuals of any given population and doesn't make sense to me as a 'solution for the masses'.

 

If I'm allowed to take a part of this:

There was something about this subject in relation to ANDRIJA HENRY PUHARICH M.D. in the secret MK-ULTRA Mind-Control project in the 1950s.

Puharich (kind of coach of Geller) stated "The Nine" was something real, which I'm still researching if it is.

[Guest]

Hello, Octahedron,

Of course you may take part (what kind of question is that?)! :orc6:

You are right to do a deep dive into ANDRIJA HENRY PUHARICH. He is an interesting character (and I'll let you draw your own conclusions independent of my input). : )

[greensleep]

No offense to anyone, but Uri geller is a magician. He uses sleight of hand and psychology to convince people he can really bend spoons and do all sorts of things with his "supernatural powers". He is/was a fraud, and a money maker. A magician who fools people then pretends to be using legit miracles really ticks me off. I can do some basic spoon bends that I learned off an instructional video about mentalism for stage entertainers. ( I am neither entertaining nor a paid entertainer, it was just for fun and a hobby) I would never try to convince someone that it was anything more than fun and tricks no matter how fantastic my skill and charisma. My point is, if you cant trust the guy to be honest about using sleight of hand techniques to bend his spoons, you can't trust anything he says. He jumped onto "new age" ideas to further his mystique and deepen his character and credibility among new age types for years. Uri Geller sucks as a human being, although he is a wonderfully talented magician.

[Octahedron]

No offense to anyone, but Uri geller is a magician. He uses sleight of hand and psychology to convince people he can really bend spoons and do all sorts of things with his "supernatural powers". He is/was a fraud, and a money maker. A magician who fools people then pretends to be using legit miracles really ticks me off. I can do some basic spoon bends that I learned off an instructional video about mentalism for stage entertainers. ( I am neither entertaining nor a paid entertainer, it was just for fun and a hobby) I would never try to convince someone that it was anything more than fun and tricks no matter how fantastic my skill and charisma. My point is, if you cant trust the guy to be honest about using sleight of hand techniques to bend his spoons, you can't trust anything he says. He jumped onto "new age" ideas to further his mystique and deepen his character and credibility among new age types for years. Uri Geller sucks as a human being, although he is a wonderfully talented magician.

Interesting to know.

You wrote:

I can do some basic spoon bends that I learned off an instructional video about mentalism for stage entertainers.

What do you mean: real spoon bending by using the mind or fake bending ?

Or is it an instructional video to hypnotize the audience ?

 

[greensleep]

Fake. It is all basically bending the spoon or fork with your hands in some way. With good timing and body language you can make some different kinds of illusions with sleight of hand moves that look pretty cool, as far as magic tricks go. It won't look as amazing as the kid bending spoons in the matrix movie, of course, because that was digital effects.

[Octahedron]

Thanks for giving your experiences.

[Guest]

alright, so the nine are real. if your mind can comprehend/interpret hyperspace fully/properly then you could basically talk to them, when you open the pineal it's liek that anyways, cept it feels liek it's godmind talking to you. but yes... go for it guys, open the pineal in yellow when in hy[erspace and give it a shot. i'd love to hear some experiances.