Viagra-mail terrorism

[Octahedron]

Karen, you try to find a balance and I have to accept this as a "solution in between"

Youth is confused and their agenda is artificial made by mind-control and "fashion".

Girls have trouble to find their long term identity: career or mother/caregiving;

Boys do try: Crime-Macho identity or Sportstar/icon or business-CEO

And school is encouraging this poor set of identity choices.

You see many education-programs are full with Job-matching or company-match plans.

No discussion is allowed about philosophy "what are we doing, why, etc .."

or "what is the spiritual opportunity do be here on earth, how can I give input to positive developments to help other people".

No it's: money, money, money (in Western World)

Ask people why money is so important, and they even CAN'T answer;

they are IMPRINTED with the idea that money is the ultimate holyness, by industries, government, religion, school and "-working is earning-" idea. No discussion anymore.

Any serious discussion about economy where people can have much more wealth with almost not working at or within much less timer is taboo or rejected; I call this the so called "use the money-idea to control every deeper discussion instead of using money to control goods and property".   

Stronger: government and universities will sabotage any publication of proof and surpress real innovative ideas.

[Astrojewels]

Octahedron,
What is money? A question that really has no direct answer but a product that has so much energy; we have already seen during the Second World War that money has no value when you are a target.
I agree totally with your evaluation on today’s society, but I believe that problems can only be solved through finding some understanding to the cause.
I remember once when I was in a high school science class and discussing organs of the human body, I asked the teacher ‘what power generates all those organs to work’ he looked at me and tried to give me some scientific explanation and I kept questioning him, because the power source is your soul/spirit, so he told me that I was an idiot, sent me out to detention, and I was only welcomed back if I would behave. Behave to what? I thought this was school and here to learn, but if I ask a question I am punished, so from small occurrences like that I realized that the world was very questionable and those who presume to be directing us do not have the answers.
So how does a small group of aliens/reptilians/ people control a ‘very large’ group? It must begin with the offspring. Children are naturally abstract, they forgive, they love and do not hate, their minds are colorful, they have control equally of the right/left brain and they are connected to the earth, spirit and cosmos.
Each generation produces a far greater threat to those who try and control, because they are becoming spiritually intelligent through the parents. We are ‘programmed’ to believe age separates our thoughts with each generation, we judge them too quickly on looks, fashion, ideas and so on, therefore we are assisting the ‘program’ to make them dumb.
So way back when I was at school, I was told if I behave I could belong to the group, if I did not I would be alone. We can not change the education system or the economic structure of the world alone, but this world is a picture of the collective thoughts that we have all produced, and it requires only a small percentage to change that picture.
I can not change my experiences, but I can support my children, and as an adult I can now confront the teacher and can not be sent to detention. Small changes make great impact I believe.

[Octahedron]

Beautiful explanation of education and children you gave, Karen.

About money (besides representing energies) I would tell it is becoming more a "control"-related item;

let me explain:

People think they pay taxes, because the government need this for covering public costs; in fact taxes are hidden-control and registration-procedures to know what people are doing and so to control them:

- registration of house and car

- job characteristics

- costs of education, kind of education

- monitoring use of gas, electricity, water and land use.

- Estate/family relations

- insurance, pensions, bank-savings, foreign property

- healthcare-spendings, obeying dentist laws etc

A second example is social security;

People think social expenses and social law is to help the poor and to protect innocent people against agressive business-employers.

In fact; these laws are to CONTROL and monitor small-business and to discourage entrepeneurship everywhere.  Social security is a pre-emptive way of controlling the careers and jobs of everybody. It creates also distrust between people.

Life Insurance and Pensions are long-term lies for people who believe in them.

 

[Astrojewels]

Hi octahedron,
I agree that money is the #1 control item in the world, because every person on earth needs it, could we survive without it? Social security creates so much energy for negativity; it structures the mind to believe you are low class, and is also targeted to genetic programming to keep the cycle going. It drives many to crime, but the world could not survive without black money, this is why I do not believe that money will ever be totally taken out of society.
The countries that we would say have economic stability, do so through crime, the general population would disagree, but it is all the cash circulating, not paying tax that is spent loosely and keeps these countries prosperous.
I see everything with energy; you have one or two people who sit on top of the crime pyramid, energy is passed on through each layer, the higher level believe they are superior to the lower level and would never identify with them, crime could be stopped, but it is another way to keep the population in fear.
Money is designed to the pyramid in every aspect of life, 90% of employees fear the boss and act differently around them, the employee voluntarily puts themselves under that person, because society has been programmed to think that way.
The boss does not single handily keep that business prosperous, it is the group, the employees working in a team that do it. A good business requires controlled management, but how many people go to work just to pay all the things you mention? I would say most. Each individual needs to evaluate how they receive money, and the energy that they absorb with it. There is a need to control it, not let it control you; respect it for the power it holds. All things physical can only hold control over you because some part of your mind has left the door open for you to believe that is the only way.

[Octahedron]

Karen, I would believe money is energy-related to service relations between people, yes, if money is a real honest tool for exchanging.

But, money at these days doesn't behave like or obey energy-exchanging laws. Just have a view on corrupt IMF, bankssystems, surpressed energy-technology (Tesla, Schauberger), chemtrails and global polution etc.

Money is meaning nothing beyond a certain amount:

i.e. I have, let's say about 3 million dollars, then I think that's the limit to be quite at a "happy level"; I've also seen many examples that having a lot of money creates isolation from real friends. Because if you have more, than the problems of crime, taxes and corruption are creating more fear and discomfort, you are also begin sleeping worse and unhealthy. Trust in people depletes also, generally.

I've seen many examples of this, plus the more money a man has, the more powerless he likely becomes in metaphysical-capabilities, likely thus not certain, but I estimate over 90% in these cases.

And when having more than say, ... more than 10 million dollars, you're becoming a target for the Illuminati to push you again under their "control-comfort-level".

I would say money as energy transformation works fine in reasonable service relationships between people and business. But you have to be aware that money and banksystem is not working at all  the way they teach at school or economy-studies. So, everybody must be aware to find their comfort-zone.

Many large companies are NOT really interested in profit; their first target is CONTROL a branch, a group of special workforce, some products, or whatever what fits in the agenda of the Bilderberg group.

AND I'm convinced this group is also responsible for the Junk of all Viagra-email where we are talking about in this topic. It fits in the agenda of testing internet-communication and monitoring, so they can take the next step in creating their standards of email-communication and email-advertisements.

Let's say; the big telcom-companies are creating viruses and JUNK themselves by obeying the orders from the NWO. Nothing new under the sun, again.

The Business-Profit concept or idea  is to imprint people with the idea of how "economics" work in their mind-controlled virtual reality and how the money system works to maintain a sheep mentality. It's not the money what is evil, it is the "belief" system, supported by "official education" and  "business law".

When a large company needs money, it always has access to financial markets to fill in their needs, because the banks are part of the conspiracy;

BTW:  accountancy companies are also part of the conpiracy, just re-shift the numbers in the journal and well, suddenly their is plenty of money instead of a loss ! they sign it, and the bank is happy, so they type more money on their computerscreen to support the conspiracy all-over again.

Accountants are a big scam, but a very very very few know it ! (even 99% of the acountants themselves do NOT know). The scandal of Arthur Andersen with ENRON is just the tip of the iceberg.

Just ask yourself, why accountants generally know nothing about Technology; and why engineers and architects generally know nothing about tax-laws.

answer: it is to divide the knowledge workers between a group who is "monitoring and controlling" and one who is "being really creative and productive".

That's what money is all about in our Western economics.

 

[Astrojewels]

Hi octahedron,
Yes I agree that money does not have the energy of exchange in today’s mechanical world, I also totally agree with what you say about big business and the internal corruption, and the bigger the business, the connective emotions with staff or clients is almost zero, the need for secrecy, deceit and deception increases dramatically. With all things in life, once you begin the spiral of lies, fabrication and dishonesty you must work harder and harder to keep the charade and you are right with what you say about the Viagra mail, because if you create the problem, you know how to control it- basic manipulation.
Money carries a lot of energy and separates society - if you are poor; it drags you down to the dark energies; desperation, embarrassment and helplessness. For the majority that is rich; it also conjures dark energy because you judge, comment and demean. People that are poor or rich ‘presume’ how the other feels and lives.
People in general do not look at their wages as reward, but more of a way to pay for their desires, so the energy that is absorbed is more of necessity than pleasure; your job becomes a duty because most people accumulate so much debt just to look good to their friends- money feeds ego. When you get into large debt, the mind pattern takes on the interaction of ‘owing’ you consciously give your worth to another.
We are entering a very fragile time with currency, and it is still choice to the individual if they obey or self-control. if you obey; everything is purchased and received on the card; each time you use; you are charged a fee; the records of your spending is on data; everywhere you have been is recorded; so if you allow all transactions to be done in this manner you are already receiving the energy of the robotic human. 95% of businesses pay employees through electronic transaction.
If you do not want to be monitored this way, take your wages out of the bank each week and pay everything with cash. Those who are involuntarily becoming robotic always have empty wallets. It is basically a choice to the individual.
The illuminati can not control universal energy; they just make us think they have this unbeatable power. Negative/positive is incorporated with everything in life, so it is up to each person which energy they choose to absorb.

[AndrewX]

Octa mentioned:

And when having more than say, ... more than 10 million dollars, you're becoming a target for the Illuminati to push you again under their "control-comfort-level".

Karen,

What do you think was the truth behind Crazy John's death?
 



 

Crazy John dies
Updated: 06:21, Saturday October 27, 2007

Business Week in Review: The founder of Crazy John's mobile phones, John Ilhan died on Tuesday of a suspected heart attack.

'This is a tragic day. John was an inspiration to everyone who ever knew or worked with him. He grew a business from nothing to become the biggest independent mobile phone retailer in Australia' said Crazy John's Managing Director Brendan Fleiter.

'John was always a big thinker, the difference was he always achieved what he said he would do.' Described as laid-back and likeable, he was one of Australia's richest businessmen, amassing a fortune of more than $300 million, and was named the 'richest man under 40', in 2005.

'John did something very special in his life. He followed his dream and created a business that employed hundreds of people and provided real competition in the mobile phone business for the first time. He cared about looking after his customers and the people who worked with him.,' added Mr Fleiter.

Ilham was brought up in a working class family in the northern Melbourne suburb of Broadmeadows, and often credited his ability to relate to his customers, to his humble beginnings.

John Ilhan opened his first mobile phone store in the Melbourne suburb of Brunswick in 1991.

Since then he had expanded the business to 120 shops, which employ more than 600 staff.

His company revolutionised the mobile phone industry in Australia, with Crazy John's being the first to offer mobile phones for $1 and the first to give away free accessories with phone purchases.

The 42 year old was married with four children.

Personally, I doubt it was a genuine heart attack that did it.  He just took over $300Million worth of business away from Telstra and gave it to VodaFone amongst other things.  They've struck again no doubt. 

http://www.australianit.news.com.au/stor...06,00.html 

http://www.australianit.news.com.au/stor...06,00.html

[Astrojewels]

Hi Andrew X,
It has been a weird week, and I have thought about crazy john and his mysterious death, well I would say it was a combination, personally I do not think he has any importance to them other than his wealth and his influence over the Lebanese community. I remember a little while back he was having trouble with some management staff, and some were not happy.
ELF and electronic pulses are very strong this week for many reasons, I do feel that he was not a target but was a very stressed man and it was both that stopped his heart, at 42 walking down the street- his stress and the electromagnetic energy combined – bang! no coming back.
I think he really just put too much on himself. This is what I say about ‘energy’ and money, he is a prime example, I am sure he had managers in every store, but he grew up as a poor migrant, so he would have never trusted those managers totally because it is ‘his’ money, ‘his’ ideas and so on, and he would have never thought consciously that, yes it was his idea, and he had great skill to lead and direct, but the success is the input of all concerned – his staff, family support etc. anyone who is successful like this should really feel that it is ‘our’ money, not mine, because at the end of the day, who’s money is it now?

[AndrewX]

Very well put Karen, especially the part about whose money it is.

All of these supposed successful people have 1 thing in common that stood out in my eyes with ample contrast...

Successful buisness people... well, all I know is that they're all fundementally shifty/sinister, and NOT truly intelligent.  I've found that in the vast majority of cases intelligence has NOTHING to do with their success, nothing whatsoever.  For if it did, then it would hamper their success, and in most cases it would thoroughly assure it never occured in fact. 

Crazy John simply turned out to be your quintessetial business person IMO.  What was to stop him from having sold out years ago and pocketing 100Mil to then go on and live the totally relaxed and pleasurable life with his family?  His greed... and greed is essentially a sinister trait. 

So now he simply gets added onto the 'list of filthy rich stooges' who gave their life away for NOTHING.  As that's what he took with him to the hereafter. 

He must be feeling pretty silly and stupid about now.  He'll be replaced by another and on it goes.

[AndrewX]

...and btw karen...

Crazy John was a Muslim Turk, not a Christian Lebanese/Fenecian...