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Who Is Backing Hugo Chavez?
#1
Expansions has been hinting for a month or so 'something' or some power is backing Chavez, which is why he's been so brazen.  Is this the romanovs making a move against the roths and windsors? Is that why Chavez is so confident, even declaring that he's going to launch a global 911 investigation? Chavez has recently purchased helicopters from russia and plans on getting fighter jets from them soon aswell. What's the scooper pooper?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4875906.stm

interesting number from the article....

"Army Commander Gen Raul Baduel said Venezuela planned to buy a total of 33 helicopters from Russia."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/mar...gation.htm

"Venezuelan Government To Launch International 9/11 Investigation
Truth crusaders Walter and Rodriguez to appear on Hugo Chavez's weekly TV broadcast"

Russia defends Chavez arms deal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4257911.stm

[color="#003399"][size="4"]Putin, Venezuela's Chavez Plan Anti-U.S. Alliance

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles...1808.shtml

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[/color]MOSCOW, March 17, (RIA Novosti) - President Vladimir Putin of the Russian Federation and President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela talked to each other over the phone in the evening of March 16, discussing topical bilateral-cooperation issues and practical measures to expand such relations still further. This was disclosed to RIA Novosti at the Kremlin press service.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/librar...osti09.htm

President Vladimir Putin and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have built up a close relationship, especially in the period since Chavez visited Moscow for the third time in November 2004. Each sees the other as an ally against American "unipolarity," and there are good reasons for friends and antagonists of both countries to follow events closely as this alliance develops -- or falls apart.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/20...1/006.html


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#2
Can be!

Chavez is socialist, and KGB, (FSB) had strong connections in that area during the Cold war.

Many politicans, economist, and profesional assasins were trained  from South America in Russia during their visits. 
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#3
Last week, in the Dutch Media was written, Chavez said he had no intentions to start a war against the Netherlands, altough  the Dutch were giving permission to give the US Navy a big warbase at the Dutch Antilles.

This is correct, the US is building out their positions on Dutch soil.

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060404/ap_o..._caribbean


The Netherlands are politically divided between Windsor and Rothschild parts, and the Dutch Queen has both Romanovs and Rothschilds blood.
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#4
I agree with you Octahedron. I believe Hugo Chavez is a Windsor Mind Control Victim just playing his part. Its all part of the NWO Agenda. Just window dressing for CNN, BBC News 24 and the rest of the MSM.
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#5
if chavez is not a romanov man, what moves are the romanovs making?
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#6
The Romanovs simply want control over a Greater Russia again, with control over Eastern Europe and North Asia and perhaps parts of East Asia as well. They are not after South America or Venezuela. Also, if America is destroyed from within, then the Romanovs would more than likely try to gain a footing there as well. However Europe is Rothschild territory.
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The family name of the Romanovs was derived from Roma Nova, New Rome.  It embodied the ancient prophecy that Moscow was to become “the New Rome.”  The family originated with Prince Prus, brother of Emperor August of Rome, who founded Prussia.  In 1614, Mikhail (Michael) Feodorovich became the first Romanov Czar.
His father surname was Feodor Nikitich Romanov, but at this time children would use father's name for their surname. That is old Russian custom.

(The same is with the Hebrew people - Emmanuel ben Joseph.)

His mother name was Ksenia lvanovna Shestovaya.

He was elected Sovereign of All Russia in Moscow's Red Square by the Assembly of the Land (Zemskii Sobor) on February 21, 1613, at the age of 16, and consecrated Czar on July 11, 1613.

Before his accession to the throne, he lived with his mother in the village of Domnina, the family estate of the Romanovs.
During his reign, he established a unified Russian state, ended internal conflicts and resumed relations with foreign states. He also made various early reforms, particularly in the Russian army. He was married twice: to Maria Vladimirovna Dolgorukaya (died January 7, 1626) and to Evdokia Lukianovna Streshneva (circa 1608-August 18, 1645). There were 10 children from the second marriage.
He died on July 13, 1645, and was buried in the Archangel Cathedral of the Kremlin.



Is there someone on this site with connections to this family?




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#8
Hi there Sariel.Your information on the Romanov Illuminati is fascinating. Sariel wrote:
Quote:The family name of the Romanovs was derived from Roma Nova, New Rome.  It embodied the ancient prophecy that Moscow was to become “the New Rome.”  The family originated with Prince Prus, brother of Emperor August of Rome, who founded Prussia.  In 1614, Mikhail (Michael) Feodorovich became the first Romanov Czar.
Now my question is two fold. The Former Soviet Union President, Mikhail Sergevich Gorbachev, is a major player in the Illumined Ones and their NWO. I am fascinated by how quiet and yet how powerful Mikhail Sergevich Gorbachev actually is. Is he related to the Romanov Illuminati?Secondly, is Mikhail Sergevich Gorbachev aligned to the Windsor Illunminati who control China? Or is he aligned to the Romanov Illuminati and Rothschild Illuminati?
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#9
The Romanovs are making diplomatic negotiations with Iranian government. They want to influence and control world events and to be recognised like powerful force again within Illuminati.

Another move they are doing right now is getting control over Ukraine. They succeed in this after Juschenko had lost election. Juschenko is the windsor man and his wife is
probably CIA related agent.

The Belurasia is controlled through Lukashenko's dictatorial regime.

In Russia the Romanovs aren't officially recognised as rulers but they have complete control over it since Putin had become the prime minister. Their main weapon in the war for power were secret services.  Romanov family had one of the best secret intelligence agencies in the world. Contrary to the offical belief many their agent worked in the russian communistic government  but were loyal to the Romanov  family and patiently waited their return on the throne.

After the soviet union had fall apart, Rothschild used temporary weakness of the new state Russia, and send his agents to plunder country through privatisation. That agents become russian oligarchs, most richest and  powerful people in the country. They had complete control over indecisive president Boris Yeltsin. His daughter  actually  was one member of that mafia and had made wealth in the privatisation process.

However, Yeltsin  rule had come to the end, and they decide to put another man on his place. Oligarchs decided to choose one KGB agent called Putin. He was almost unknown on the public scene. Oligarchs consider Putin to be very easly controlled but that was their big mistake.

Using secret service, media propaganda (war in Chechenia) and money from oligarchs, Putin was able quite easly to come on the power. But, after he had come on the power, he showed his real face and send all his oligarchs friends in the prison, or out of the Russia in the asylum abroad.

The thruth was that Putin was actually undercover Romanov agent, and through him Romanov  family had again control over Russia and Russians.

The only one oligarch who survived Putin's "cleaning", was Roman Abramovich, person which was mastermind behind his media propaganda. The surname Abramovich is related to Abram or Abraham.   
 
Now, Romanov  had control over russian financies and oil. All money from that going on their bank account which is based in Switzerland were live the head of their family. Another members live in Italy, Spain and other european countries.  Some members, actually, one member, was known to live in America, in Hollywood, where he was involved in the movie industry (in programming, actually) together with people like was Frank Sinatra.

Regarding to Mikhail S. Gorbachev, reptilian shapeshifter (how I heard) is the member of the club of Rome. His role was important for NWO plans. Personally I think that all reptilians play only for their reptilian interest. No important who is in the charge, Romanov, Rothschild or Windsor, main goals and purposes are the same.

However, Gorbachev with destruction of SSSR open the way for Rothschild's agents.

But, in the long-run Romanov used that for their own advantage.



 


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[size="3"]A Soviet War Veteran Speaks Out[/size]
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By A.M. Star[/size]

[size="2"]When Soviet President Konstantin Chernenko died, a hastily called meeting of the CPSU Politburo voted five against to elect Mikhail Gorbachev as his successor. Coincidentally (?) three opponents of Gorbachev in the Politburo, among whom was Grigori Romanov, were out of town and not present at this all-important meeting and were not notified to come immediately.

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[size="2"]Grigori Romanov once was a powerful figure at the highest level of the Soviet State. As a young man during the 1940’s he had fought the Nazi invaders in the defense of Leningrad. A committed Communist, he later rose trough the Party ranks to become the head of the Soviet Union’s second largest city, Leningrad, for a period of 25 years.

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[size="2"]In 1983 he was summoned to Moscow by the then president Yuri Andropov and became a member of the CPSU Politburo. When Andropov died in 1984, Konstantin Chernenko took over. But he too was not healthy and passed away the following year. Grigori Romanov was considered one of the two possible successors to Chernenko; the other one was Vladimir Shcherbitsky. "No one seriously considered Gorbachev," says Romanov.

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[size="2"]On the day that Chernenko died (March 10, 1985–19.20 hrs) Romanov was in Vilnius, Lithuania with his wife. They had been given a trip to the sanatorium and could only fly back to Moscow on the following day. Two other Politburo members were also at that time out of town; Dinmuhammed Kunaev was in Alma Ata, Kazakhstan and Shcherbitsky was in the United States. If these three members (the usual size of the Politburo is about 14 full members) had been present at the meeting, as they could have been the following day – Gorbachev would never had been elected, says Romanov. "By the time we arrived in Moscow, the very next day, he’d already done it without waiting for us as Politburo rules demanded. That fast! That was it… He’d already cut the deal in secret with all of them. And you think that the timing of Chernenko’s death, I mean, was all accidental? (bid).

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[size="2"]The fact that Gorbachev was not even seriously considered as the successor to Chernenko, appears to be supported by an article in 1992 in the New York Transfer News Service, which wrote the following about Gorbachev’s performance:[/size]
[size="2"]"When Mikhail Gorbachev was elected General Secretary of the CPSU, he had done little to distinguish himself with his comrades in the Central Committee or later in the Politburo. The highest-ranking job he held was that of a Central Committee secretary in charge of agriculture. He had earlier studied at the Stavropol Agricultural Institute where he obtained a degree in agriculture, to which he later added a degree in law. Thus, he was a lawyer and an agricultural official directly responsible from the Central Committee to the Politburo. His performance until then was, if anything, lackluster. Indeed, his last years in that post were characterized by agricultural failures attributed by the Soviet press to poor weather (!) They certainly did not add to his stature. Nothing he had done could recommend putting him on a pedestal above all the others."

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[size="2"]Furthermore, an article in "Time Europe" of January 4, 1988, confirms that Romanov was the chief candidate for the top job.[/size]
[size="2"]But Gorbachev and his cabal appeared to have outmaneuvered his rivals. He succeeded because Chernenko died at a moment that his main rivals were out of town, either by pure luck or timing or "in a planned manner", as Romanov seems to suggest by his question – "Was the real timing of Chernenko’s death accidental?" There is no doubt that Chernenko was a sick man which he spent much of his last few months in hospital and that his death was not unexpected. The Soviet news agency TASS later released the text of his medical bulletin, which stated the following "following the manifestations of liver and pulmonary-cardiac insufficiency, Mr. Chernenko’s heart had stopped." But doctors do have a good deal control over the timing of a person’s death. Romanov could be right that the timing was not altogether "accidental".

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[size="2"]Tom Paine, writing in the "Cold War Series: Ten Years After" said about Gorbachev: " In order to trump his Politburo rivals, Gorbachev did every wild thing that he could think of, the better to be able to brand them all, quite inaccurately, as reactionaries, as Stalinists. In the process he ruined the Soviet economy, encouraged the nationalities to rise up against his enemies, and inadvertently broke up the Soviet bloc in the attempt to remove Communist leaders who sided with his perceived enemies in Russia. Finally he started the process of breaking up the Soviet Union itself, in April of 1991, by initiating talks on a new Union Treaty. This was done in order to head off an attempt by the loyal members of Central Committee of the CPSU to remove him from power."[/size]
[size="2"]Not surprisingly, Romanov does not have a good word to say about Gorbachev. " He will pay for his sins! I can’t stand the sight of his pig’s mug. He’s a traitor A traitor to the Motherland! He’s sniveling about how no one here thanks him, about how ungrateful Russians are to him. To hell with Gorbachev! He started this disaster. He was a catastrophe, an ignorant peasant who had no right to come into the big city…" (1)[/size]
[size="2"]And so writes Andrew Meier in "Black Earth": "Now, in advanced retirement, far from his rarefied life among the Party, Romanov echoed the lament of many a common man in Russia. In the years after the Soviet collapse, he had found company. Romanov has no power now, but he took solace in the knowledge that millions of Russians share his views. His principle conviction – things were much better before – has become the motto of his generation."[/size]
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(1) From the book "Black Earth", chapter 1-5 by Andrew Meier
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NY Transfer News Service 1992, article by Sam Marcy: The Collapse of the USSR and the Destiny of Socialism"
(3) Tom Paine is publisher of a Public Internet Journal
(4) Personally I don’t believe that the break-up of the USSR was "accidental". Rather, it was planned by Gorbachev and Yakovlev and others for many years. (W.V.R.)[/size]
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