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Diogenes Wrote:nice story and a good answer,but there is one mistake in it, Christianity and Islam didnt exist at the time Siddharta Gautama :)
And also the nun story is not exactly correct since there have always since the start of organized religions been similar groups of worshippers, in many religions thru the world. Every thing else is spot on Yes but before Christianity, and before which were the teachings of Christ, the documentation s of the Sumerrian texts were. Of which the later Bible echoed. Most notable ,the lamentations regarding the destruction of the earliest, and fabled civilizations on Earth, such as what is called Atlantis,Lemuria, etc.
Someone has been, and will call the shots, above all that are of this Earth. Who carries what out in between, is what makes up part of the mystery I suppose. Against whom, and why is not so much.
Yes there have been many "organized religions in the world, but by whom were they organized? How were they practiced, and whom did they really worship?
GOD did have an enemy you know. He also had an a nearly identical hirarchy as well. He also wanted to be worshiped, at least revered as GOD as well. He's still trying. Earth worship, and twisted religions etc. As well as infiltrating and pitting the most known religions against each other in order to eradicated all religions, except his. Which worships him.
Cleverly, he has the "No religion at all" card ready for play. However, that will be short lived. Athiests, etc will be awfully dissappointed to find that "religion" the concept, will not dissappear, and horrified at what remains. Which is his, purposed to worship him alone.
One which Some Christians,New Agers, Jews, Muslims,Hindus,Shintoists, Buddists, and Athiests etc, who are in positions of power within their respective regions claim to be. Yet truly aren't, really worship.
Not even those "working on their own Spiritual evolvement" would be spared from what those in power inflict on any not going along with.
GOD you ask of? I ask how much longer GOD.
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xanthas Wrote:Anu-021413 Wrote:If you'd like to shyte on Jesus's words be my guest. Best of luck to you. I'm not interested, primarily because 'Jesus' is an invention to hold up as a kind of figure/role model that is fixated and ingrained in the Western hemisphere brain/mind pattern.
There are plenty of tribes that have never heard of 'it' ('God'/Jesus, whatever) and they're doing just fine. Certainly better than the f-d up Western, religiously indoctrinated, technologically advanced, so-called 'civilised' societies. The tribes you speak of may be doing just fine, however there are,and have been many. Most we'll never know of, who were doing "fine" until the opposite of Jesus came along and wiped them out. Even now.
Belief's infiltrated? Yes, organized for such by those of such? Yes. I don't recall Jesus ever saying establish a church religion by him. Just live by what he and his father said,which would avoid many many of the problems and quagmires we have/and now face. You can't say truly that the west is "religiously indoctrinated." Not in Europe, nor more and more in North America. And what of the leaders of such who are Satanic? Obviously there is an entity which they despise. If the words and teachings of such have been told, of course they'd want to hijack it. Which they have.
If you look at the Romans, they conquered and pillaged smaller and larger peoples, and justified it as, "bringing civilization" to the world. Yet they, until long after the crucifixion, were just as corrupt,evil,greedy,etc as leaders within the world are now. They were just as fcuked up as is now. Even worse, which we're regressing towards that past. Just with a nice face on it. Yes, now with technology used to assist, and partly enforce.
Yet they had not Christianity, and church, until they adopted the teachings to corrupt. As well as to serve as future basis to drive people away from. They had no Judiasim, which they had already corrupted and subjugated. That they now use to ingest the middle east into a war most will not survive. They had no Islam beliefs, yet they treated those who weren't "Roman citizens," the same as infidels etc now. As well as to be used in the same coming conflict, and to instill fear, and impose their will upon all people. Thus driving people away from anything now deemed "religious."
You can find the comparisons within every monarchy,dictatorship,Idealist bent from then fwd, yet what one man and what his father told, are despised by all of the leaders of such. In some prevalent ideoligies, it either doesn't exist, or is "State run" by a state that it's leadership despises.
And the leaders of such now, as then do worship, but worship the opposite of what they organized as a "token" at least, of what is their opposite.
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