http://www.secret.tv/

[Octahedron]

without boundaries, that's I mean without limitations or pre-conditions at concerning the truth.

I think we are ready with our conversation here, thanks for the attention.

[xanthas]

Tu no comprende nada.

You are in love with information, not truth. You can read a whole library & still haven't gotten any the wiser. Nor is it any guarantee that you really will understand yourself or the world any better or ensure inner fulfillment.

You could read everything that's ever been written until your brain is fried & your eyes pop out and you still wouldn't know what Truth is - for you personally.

Why?

Truth is neither in the books nor is it 'on the internet'. They are only a tool on the path towards truth. And if you are as indiscriminate in your approach as you claim to be I wouldn't be surprised if you end up having a nervous breakdown somewhere down the line - especially if you don't know what you're doing.

You cannot 'undo' "knowing" (or, what you've read). Whatever you read, it plants a 'seed' in your head. If you read crap - what's the result?

Your head will be filled with crap - crap you don't need & doesn't help you & sure as hell ain't gonna get you any closer to 'Truth' itself.

Nor does 'knowledge' prevent you from being abused (you're an easy target for con artists - that was what my questioning was about) by some very, very disturbed people out for more than your brains.

It takes an extraordinary and seriously foolhardy belief that you can take all of this 'information ('Truth') you seek' really in & handle it all without batting an eyelid.

Umberto Eco's book "The Name of the Rose" is an excellent example of this (& I am not talking about that horrible film with Grand Mason Sean Connery in the lead role!). It's right down your alley - the brothers in the monastery are as obsessed with 'knowledge' as you are.

As Plato already said:

[color="#0000ff"]Know thyself.[/color]

Maybe one day when you begin to get tired of all manner of superfluous and often useless information you'll come to the realisation that truth is not 'out there'.

[color="#0000ff"] The journey to truth is an inward journey.[/color]

A complusive-obsessive 'occupation' with information confusing it with 'Truth' will lead you to experiences that will move you into the exact opposite direction of Truth nor will it clarify what Truth for you really is.

Du bist ein idealer 'Kandidat' für Kulte & Sekten weil Du wirklich fast alles für bahre Münze nimmst, ohne Dinge wirklich zu hinterfragen. Zu leichtgläubig & übereifrig.

Die Community hier trägt da schon ein Wesentliches dazu bei.

Von Gleichgewicht, geschweige denn wirklicher Willenskraft Deinerseits kann ich da nicht viel erkennen... Sorry man...

Tu peux faire ce que t'veux. Moi j'en rien à foutre de tes prétentions de "vérité" complètement douteuses et étranges. Si tu ne fais pas attention tu en finiras de souffrir d'une condition mentale.

Ich wollte Dir meine Hilfe anbieten aber Du scheinst wohl der Auffassung zu sein dass Du keine Hilfe brauchst & alles selber schon weisst und kannst.

Pass nur auf dass Du Dich da nicht verrechnest.

Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall.

[xanthas]

For general information purposes I just wanted to add that I had a look at Johannes Holey's website (Jan Udo's father who has immediate involvement in secret.tv) & low & behold, there's the Monarch butterfly on both sides of the main page...

http://www.johannes-holey.de/cms/

Knowledge of German is not necessary here.

If you do, it's a plus because it becomes quite obvious that Sr. is as programmed as Jan Udo Holey. Besides, Holey Sr. states that Jan Udo is a 3rd generation (dynasty...anyone?) 'truth seeker'....

The secret.tv site has an odd quality...akin to wanting to establish a "devoted followers" club...

Some of what is 'cloaked' in "unveiling" mysteries are quite old hat, really... Certainly the 'revelations' about crop circles or the 'healing powers of water' have been made widely accessible quite some time ago...

[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:

I see an increasing amount of German websites describing the Illuminati, aliens and the NWO very well.


The new thing for me is, the German sites seem to be better and broader about technical things, the 4th Reich and esoteric knowledge about runes and hyperspace than American sites.

www.secret.tv is from Jan van Helsing and his partners; I'm glad I'm able to read both English and German.

I hope for English readers, this website will also be available in English soon.

 

I am not glad being able to read either English or German, having to deal with either secret.tv or your posts.

You gotta be kidding me! Secret.tv - yet another well known right-wing nest.

Just check the David Icke Interview:
http://www.secret.tv/artikel4964971/David_Icke_2

The secret.tv man who interviews him is Jo Conrad. A well known righ-wing person who recently tried to build the "Principality of Germania". That was also backed by the "KRR" people, the "Kommisarische Reichsregierung", who see themselves as EXILE GOVERNMENT OF THE 3rd REICH. Do you need to know frecking more about those guys? Do you now have a clue of who Octahedron is trying to sell you as "spiritual" aldebaranian, non social-darwinistic 3rd/4th Reich people?

Van Helsing's is a Xenophobe. It's in his books. Easy to detect. He claims his spirit-guide is St. Germain!!!!! St. Germain -> The GERMAN. He Promoted Indigo-children. A well known elitist Psy-Op. I guess he chose secret.tv, because the site the-secret.tv made a lot of bucks.

The only interesting thing he did was an interview with a templar and a high ranking mason. But how did he get the contacts?

I am all for free speech, but the right-wing nazis have always misused it. They are one of the main sources of violence in germany.

[Octahedron]

... Do you now have a clue of who Octahedron is trying to sell you as "spiritual" aldebaranian, non social-darwinistic 3rd/4th Reich people?
...

of course all these members at this cafe do not know who I am; the public here is being fooled by me for over 4 years.

They do not know I'm a high ranking ex-Nazi Officer escaped from the bunkers of Berlin to Teletubby Island by an U-boat/submarine with help of Green-Pink Aliens from Star System Zeta Ridi-Culi with the sophisticated newest technology sponsored by Disney-World and Coca Cola.

The publc here has no idea what the TS is writing here, until a clever persona on this forum, just busy here for a few weeks and who claims he has golden wings, announced he is the savior to warn these Forum Cafe members for my postings. 

Be aware guys !   icon_devil

[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:

of course all these members at this cafe do not know who I am; the public here is being fooled by me for over 4 years.

They do not know I'm a high ranking ex-Nazi Officer escaped from the bunkers of Berlin to Teletubby Island by an U-boat/submarine with help of Green-Pink Aliens from Star System Zeta Ridi-Culi with the sophisticated newest technology sponsored by Disney-World and Coca Cola.

:-)

Now that's an interesting revelation. You should write a book and send the script to skybooks or secret.tv . If I had known that before I would not even have dared to criticize. Sorry I blew your cover.

[Mercy Now]

As I don't read German ,GoldenWinged SnakeOiLion, your comments have been most useful . I had read that Van Helsing and the old "devil" St. Germain were close and that was a big red flag for me.   I appreciate your input and am looking forward to your continuing participation.

[Octahedron]

As I don't read German ,GoldenWinged SnakeOiLion, your comments have been most useful . I had read that Van Helsing and the old "devil" St. Germain were close and that was a big red flag for me.   I appreciate your input and am looking forward to your continuing participation.

GoldenWinged Snake OiLion is right about van Helsing in the case Van Helsing names St. Germain and indigo-children etc. quite seriously. but Van Helsing deserves the credit to do serious research within this subjects, despite his mistakes.

There is more where van Helsing is to be read with doubt: i.e. he named somewhat about Drunvalo Melchizedek's books which are disinfo.

that's not such a big problem, because the interesting things Van Helsing wrote about are serious things to be researched and are large in numbers.

I think he is a writer with a way to make mistakes to increase the speed in relevant research, otherwise he will find nothing relevant or new.


If you want the perfect information you can wait for zillion years;  the sincere reader must select some certain resources to get the big picture, despite misinfo parts, despite blunders, despite own mistakes.

But there is danger everywhere, yes; Satanic forces are able to infiltrate in even the most sincere research clubs. The only (save) way is up (Oversoul/God), but we have to live in reality of material and astral also. It's a trade-off.

[Octahedron]

More detail, Van Helsing's guide is not Count of St. Germain, in his book "Hande weg von diesem buch, he describes what he found out in literature from others with it and put it in relation with astral magic performed by old monks from Tibet.

 

[Octahedron]

Another 3 interesting German websites, full of  information:

http://nsl-lager.com/

http://nsl-archiv.com/

http://unglaublichkeiten.com/  (With many parts and e-books in English)

When a site is supporting German identity or better: European identity, that doesn't mean necessarily all is neo-Nazi propaganda.

The French defend their national culture, the Danes, the Norwegians, the British, the Dutch do also, and esp. the Swiss people do, why are the Germans not allowed to protect their cultural treasures and identities ?

It's all part of the Rothschild fabrication to unify the European continent in 1 United States of Europe. Therefore, they need to break up European indentities with streams of immigrants from Africa and Asia and break up all old values with new McDonald's stores, Coca Cola Light toxins, Mexican Flu and a financial crisis initiated by mismanagement at Wallstreet. LBNL: it's also breaking the DNA-stability of the population, thus mind-patterns, related to a specific country, by promoting interbreeding of different races.

Anyone who has a critical view against this process, is called "a racist" or "a neo-nazi", where the sheeple can refer and justify this with the so called "Holocaust".

Standing up against the NWO, globalization and protect your old national values has nothing to do with neo-nazism; it's a right to choose your own way of life with your own people in your living area without foreign government by a 666-computer.

Neo-nazism as we know in Germany and extreme right-wing parties elsewhere in Europe, is a creation of the Illuminati to be used in their agenda of creating polarization and weakening the inner protests against all NWO measurements and falsifications.

To give an idea about this, I give a fact based on what I saw and experienced, and everybody can check this:

Last weekend, I was at a WW2 cemetery in Germany of BRITISH and CANADIAN soldiers in the battle of the Reichswald/Kleve at Februari 14th 1945, where people can sign their comments in a registration book;

i.e.

http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/ww2_cemeter...ar_cem.htm


http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/othercemete..._index.htm


well, I took a look at it and what did peope (esp. Germans) wrote:

"thanks for all", "glad the allied forces did won", "Thanks, for helping us".

Wow ! Germans who wrote: "Thanks, for helping us". 

Yes, at the same DAY on 14th Februari 1945 the British and Germans soldiers were killed in a battle in 1945; American and British Airplanes were bombing the German city of Dresden killing over 450.000 people in 3 days !  without any military need.

THIS IS FACT !

i.e. http://nsl-lager.com/Flugblatt%20Mord%20...resden.pdf

Yes, Germans; thank the Americans and British for doing this.

Many Germans, British and esp. Russians lost their life in WW2; a war paid by the American tax-payers and planned by the Illuminati long before it happened.

What a shame, even some Germans are fully brainwashed in this subject and they are not able to do their independent research in their own national history in relation to the WW2, created by Rothschilds and Rockefellers.