13 Cubed

[Astrojewels]

I don’t have the experiences of those involved but I have total understanding of energy, so I am sure that is why these people are so important to me in my life, I feel their core, their true emotions so that is where the connection creates a bond. Life is truly amazing, and one of the ladies that was there now lives here in oz, how bizarre some things work out!

[MC]

I can not post anything for anyone else, I would never disrespect their privacy.
But I can post some things about the Greenstar, which I am sure everyone knows.

The analysis in the book quotes –

His frequency is reminiscent of the Montauk project ‘boys’ he may well have been used in the Australian version of this.

Yet on our visit to the US, cliff met women he was involved with in ritual, and at least 4 more people that were in Montauk at the same time, he then did a reality check show and Stewart said “I remember you there”. Which I still have the original video. All these people talked extensively about their time at Montauk, so if cliff was in an Australian version, how do they all have these memories together? It was this meeting that broke a great deal of the hidden programming amongst these people and many of them became targets. Montauk still has so many dark secrets because so many well-known people were involved, and for this reason it will remain this way.

It is little things that most people would not think twice about, but important facts to those involved, it is ok to presume that you have an idea of what these people experienced, but no one can ‘imagine’ or even try to understand what went on.

I am in no way saying this book is ‘totally wrong’ because most of the analysis is very good, and I know the intensity that it took for it to actually get out. But I feel that people should be aware that when reading it, do not presume that the analysis completely fits that person, as the analysis is generalized for the program.

"Were you triggered by your own programming or is it that this book is laced with a great deal of misinformation"."I can only tell you what I have been told from many of the participants and the important information that has been left out of this book from their original drafts".

I am to presume that you know personally all the people that gave their stories?You cannot post for anyone else,yet "many participants" told you that important info has been left out.Now,I am not taking Stewart's side at all,but making claims without ANY backup.In the book he says that he feels that Cliff is a programming twin of his.Twins are programmed together.In this statement "he may well have been used in the Australian version of the montauk boys".Why he didn't add the words "as well" at the end,we don't know.I don't see what the problem with this is.He's not stating that Cliff wasn't involved in montauk.No one and not even Stewart knows everything about someone's programming.It is so extensive that no one can.He never picked up on what it is that I did regarding programming.I had to discover this on my own, which hit me like abrick in the head.I might have been in Montauk as well.I lived in NY.I came to the US when Montauk was just starting.He didn't tell me that.The "many" can sometimes become only "one".

[MC]

I will also add that his analysis of this case study has scathing remarks which show that he was not being entirely neutral when analyzing and writing about his observations.

[Astrojewels]

MC, you are correct I can not speak for anyone, and that was not my intention, my intention was completely lost which I have no need to recover or try to re-explain. I do not need to prove things, or seek back up, what for? There are many things in this world that has no proof. For the record, yes cliff and Stewart do have twinning programs and the analysis was not scathing at all, many things were very accurate when that book was written.

[MC]

Then,if it was not scathing,so be it.There is private mail and then there is a public forum. When we state something publicly and have no explanation nor back up,well then,I tend to disregard that.In my opinion it's not valid.And by the way,there is proof for everything,you just
have to find the method of obtianing it.

[Octahedron]

I want clear information here, without offending or defending people. 

 

[Octahedron]

There are 13 chapters of case stories in the book and labeled to some sort of programming, and each one of the case story is followed by a broader analysis and generalization of  "aspects" and  "characteristics" to just that type of programming labeled.

i.e. a kind of Monarch type has primary "Dragon-fly" or so, some sexual behaviour etc etc.

The good thing is, this analysis gives a label and clarifies some very evil experiences like rituals etc.

The incomplete thing is, it is to "general"; i.e. the analysis and background characteristics of a certain programming theme of one of the 13 chapters does not by necessary mean the person just in the mentioned case has all these written characteristics of the analysis written after one of each of the 13 chapters. It's an indication, a generalization as a help to detect more accurate certain programmings as existing in the labeled person.

For me personally, I recognize many aspects of all the 13 labeled cases in me;

So, do I have to conclude I have all these certain programmings in me from Stalker, to Monarch, to Greenstar to Vigilante ?  No.

But, .... it could be current technology and altered food is available to put these programming-aspects in me by satelite transmissions, without standard programmings and implants needed anymore.

i.e. last night I was half hybernating, half sleeping on my sofa, where a complete scene of cartooned Disney figures (Goofy, Mickey and Minnie mouse etc.) were playing in my mind !  I did suddenly wake up and shouted "get out with your Disney transmissions tonight !"  violet violet   GET OUT !  Wuhh. :X

[Astrojewels]

Yes octahedron,
The analysis is ‘generalized’ because so many individuals have the one type of programming, but their individual pattern of thought, genetic structure and soul-personality decrypts the program to fit the personality.
Also depending of the layers of other programming in the individual, so you do have to be very accurate with this information and evaluating your own attributes and be honest with which traits you do have.
If you have Greenstar, do you also have monarch, does one dominate the other? Does one overlap the intention of one from another? It is necessary to see the ‘whole’ in order to separate what is dominate and how it affects you.
The analysis states that ‘all’ have relationship problems, cliff and I have been together for 24 yrs, he is not promiscuous, and he does not shut people out, he actually has more friends and acquaintances than any person I know.

Yes I agree also with what you are saying with technology because those who are specifically programmed are more sensitive to mainstream technological downloads, and especially the satellite transmissions, which are currently in a very active motion.

[Octahedron]

Astrojewels, thanks for confirmation of the technology and the generalization-theme of the 13c book. It's good to clarify the example of Cliff and you.

A good reader, must know the cases are examples/indications and not 1 to 1 with the analysis behind it, while the analysis is still very important.

This had to be written in the preface.

 

[Astrojewels]

I agree that it had to be written and is written well. My only concern is for those who are new to this area and if they read this they can be pulled into a life of complication, because life is extremely challenging to anyone who is specifically programmed, yet with all the people I know that are, they are special and not in the way that the illuminati may have them believe, they have this unique energy that is simply breathtaking, or maybe it is just me and the way I perceive them.
The only way that we can overcome the energy that binds the program is to work together, to discuss our experiences and without judgment, we have to put it all together because that is our one major fault as a species, and it is the everyday weapon that is used against us.