David Icke

[PurplePebble]

For David Icke baiters, I have a question. What if he never wrote a single book nor gave a lecture and just lived out his life as a TV sports presenter? How much information present in "The Biggest Secret" would any Icke baiter have found out on her own without any source material or reference authors given by Icke in his book, lectures or website ?

"Thanklessness" is quite a dangerous Mind Pattern.

The only thing I have to thank is spirit for showing me the truth.

How is that thankless?


 

 

[Mercy Now]

 [user=974]iqhunk[/user] wrote:

David was scre*wed by his American partner. The partner may have arranged for the printing in Michigan, and he gets to keep all the profits.
For David Icke baiters, I have a question. What if he never wrote a single book nor gave a lecture and just lived out his life as a TV sports presenter? How much information present in "The Biggest Secret" would any Icke baiter have found out on her own without any source material or reference authors given by Icke in his book, lectures or website ?

"Thanklessness" is quite a dangerous Mind Pattern.

 Seriously???

 

David Icke Newsletter Preview
FAKING IT …

… OR FRAUDS I HAVE KNOWN
The David Icke Newsletter on Sunday
The two people in my life who told me most often how much they loved and supported me, and how vital it was for humanity that my work succeeded, turned out to be the very two people who have caused the most mayhem and stress in my life and been most destructive to my health, work and finances ...
... The first one stole a huge amount of money accumulated over many years by hiding the full extent of book sales and stealing the income from those he did not account for. Some of this money was spent on 'spiritual counselling' by some New Age 'guru'. Well, at least he realised he needed it.
He also covertly put the rights to my books in North America in his own name and I went three years without earning a penny from any of my books and DVDs worldwide because of the horrendous cost of taking him to the US Federal Court to win back rights to my own books. Meanwhile, amid all this, I was still continuing with my work of exposing the global conspiracy in the face of this crippling financial and emotional onslaught.
When you put together what he stole (not even including my legal costs) and add that to what the second one is now demanding, it means, if the second one is anything like successful, that the two of them will have taken the vast, vast majority of what I have earned in the last eleven years from books, DVDs and talks, etc, and I will be left with a fraction of what my efforts have produced.
This for two people who have not contributed a single word of research or text in any book, DVD or talk.
Oh, yes, and, on top of all that, I will be paying a substantial monthly income to the second one until I am closing in on 70, meaning that I will be working to keep this person for pretty much the rest of my life. Getting a job and earning their own living is a foreign language to both of them. That is what other people have to do, not them.
Ain't it great when you have people supporting your work like this and saying how vital it is for human freedom? I mean, imagine what it would be like without their support.
I don't know how I would cope.

 

 This, a man who promotes ,for over 20 years now btw, that "you create your own reality". If that is so just  look at what he has created for himself.  Want to take a guess as to who the person is whom he will be paying until he is "closing in on 70"? And where they live?

BTW my understanding is that the "American"  publisher that "ripped him off " was   located in Missouri not Michigan .

 Icke is important to The Parasites That Be and is on a short leash. It's all about  distraction.

 

I am Thankful for the ability to discern this.

[Richard]

David was scre*wed by his American partner. The partner may have arranged for the printing in Michigan, and he gets to keep all the profits.
For David Icke baiters, I have a question. What if he never wrote a single book nor gave a lecture and just lived out his life as a TV sports presenter? How much information present in "The Biggest Secret" would any Icke baiter have found out on her own without any source material or reference authors given by Icke in his book, lectures or website ?

"Thanklessness" is quite a dangerous Mind Pattern.

There is truth in everything. There is truth to learn from religions, Wicca, Rosicrucians, Scientology, and so on. You can learn truth from everything if you are able to discern what is true and what isn't. The problem is for the people who believe everything the source says.

[PurplePebble]

[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:

 [user=974]iqhunk[/user] wrote:

David was scre*wed by his American partner. The partner may have arranged for the printing in Michigan, and he gets to keep all the profits.
For David Icke baiters, I have a question. What if he never wrote a single book nor gave a lecture and just lived out his life as a TV sports presenter? How much information present in "The Biggest Secret" would any Icke baiter have found out on her own without any source material or reference authors given by Icke in his book, lectures or website ?

"Thanklessness" is quite a dangerous Mind Pattern.

 Seriously???

 

David Icke Newsletter Preview
FAKING IT …

… OR FRAUDS I HAVE KNOWN
The David Icke Newsletter on Sunday
The two people in my life who told me most often how much they loved and supported me, and how vital it was for humanity that my work succeeded, turned out to be the very two people who have caused the most mayhem and stress in my life and been most destructive to my health, work and finances ...
... The first one stole a huge amount of money accumulated over many years by hiding the full extent of book sales and stealing the income from those he did not account for. Some of this money was spent on 'spiritual counselling' by some New Age 'guru'. Well, at least he realised he needed it.
He also covertly put the rights to my books in North America in his own name and I went three years without earning a penny from any of my books and DVDs worldwide because of the horrendous cost of taking him to the US Federal Court to win back rights to my own books. Meanwhile, amid all this, I was still continuing with my work of exposing the global conspiracy in the face of this crippling financial and emotional onslaught.
When you put together what he stole (not even including my legal costs) and add that to what the second one is now demanding, it means, if the second one is anything like successful, that the two of them will have taken the vast, vast majority of what I have earned in the last eleven years from books, DVDs and talks, etc, and I will be left with a fraction of what my efforts have produced.
This for two people who have not contributed a single word of research or text in any book, DVD or talk.
Oh, yes, and, on top of all that, I will be paying a substantial monthly income to the second one until I am closing in on 70, meaning that I will be working to keep this person for pretty much the rest of my life. Getting a job and earning their own living is a foreign language to both of them. That is what other people have to do, not them.
Ain't it great when you have people supporting your work like this and saying how vital it is for human freedom? I mean, imagine what it would be like without their support.
I don't know how I would cope.

 

 This, a man who promotes ,for over 20 years now btw, that "you create your own reality". If that is so just  look at what he has created for himself.  Want to take a guess as to who the person is whom he will be paying until he is "closing in on 70"? And where they live?

BTW my understanding is that the "American"  publisher that "ripped him off " was   located in Missouri not Michigan .

 Icke is important to The Parasites That Be and is on a short leash. It's all about  distraction.

 

I am Thankful for the ability to discern this.

Yeah, I remember when he came out with that story. That is what I mean when I say he signed up for the job, creating your own reality etc... I have made this point on the icke forum a few times.

He doesn't like the fact that this stuff is his own "creation"....according to his theories..it is easier to play the victim I guess.

Oh well, David. It is all an illusion anyway right?

And yes Richard you are right, you can glean truth from all kinds of sources.

:D

[iqhunk]

Nothing wrong in his philosophies, He should have accepted his responsibility for his financial mess, that is for certain.
But without David Icke's efforts, the average man would have never heard about Reptilian DNA, and there would be a few million less people who would have heard about trauma based programming, satanic child abuse and so on.

"Follow the money" is a good technique, and David does not have wealth that can be traced to the 13 Families. He never hid in anonymous forums, he came forward. There is no distraction in his book "The Biggest Secret", it is phenomenal eye opening information and if he had not written that, it would have taken others decades to unravel the exact conspiracies.
I for one will always pray for his happiness, and pray that all his detractors forget everything they ever knew because of his efforts.

[PurplePebble]

[user=974]iqhunk[/user] wrote:

Nothing wrong in his philosophies, He should have accepted his responsibility for his financial mess, that is for certain.
But without David Icke's efforts, the average man would have never heard about Reptilian DNA, and there would be a few million less people who would have heard about trauma based programming, satanic child abuse and so on.

"Follow the money" is a good technique, and David does not have wealth that can be traced to the 13 Families. He never hid in anonymous forums, he came forward. There is no distraction in his book "The Biggest Secret", it is phenomenal eye opening information and if he had not written that, it would have taken others decades to unravel the exact conspiracies.
I for one will always pray for his happiness, and pray that all his detractors forget everything they ever knew because of his efforts.

Well, I see things wrong with his philosophies.

Intellectual information about conspiracies is one thing, but it is just information. It doesn't solve anything. It isn't as if DI is bringing people together on any level IMO.

Spiritual insight and ability to decipher spirits is another. I don't think DI has this capability. Infact I know he doesn't have this capability. Otherwise he wouldn't be such a staunch swerdlow supporter.

[knmar]

Well, I see things wrong with his philosophies.

Intellectual information about conspiracies is one thing, but it is just information. It doesn't solve anything. It isn't as if DI is bringing people together on any level IMO.

Spiritual insight and ability to decipher spirits is another. I don't think DI has this capability. Infact I know he doesn't have this capability. Otherwise he wouldn't be such a staunch swerdlow supporter.

I have found DI's information extremely helpful in my quest to understand the world I live in and how I fit (or not) in that world. It not only has given me information, but it has helped me look at myself, at my reactions to this information, both positive and negative. And the negative reactions give me an opportunity to work on the issues underlying my reactions, which I may never have known about were it not for DI's information.

In addition, unlike Alex Jones, DI always provides me with the inspiration that we can change things.

I have never found that any one teacher can be everything to everyone. They each contribute their piece of the puzzle and it's up to us what we do with it. I have no gripe with DI, only gratitude for his sharing, no matter where his information comes from.

DI will draw people who know nothing of conspiracy and the sleepers need to wake up. Even if some choose to cling to DI's philosophies for their entire lives, it's more beneficial to their spiritual growth than not ever knowing about the things that go on "behind the scenes."

Purple Pebble, obviously you have moved beyond DI's teachings. And that's not a bad thing. There is always more.

[PurplePebble]

I dont know whether it is a case of me being beyond what DI talks about, more of a case of being on the outside looking in.  Looking at patterns, connections,alliances etc...whats good for the goose.

[Mercy Now]

Nothing wrong in his philosophies, He should have accepted his responsibility for his financial mess, that is for certain.
But without David Icke's efforts, the average man would have never heard about Reptilian DNA, and there would be a few million less people who would have heard about trauma based programming, satanic child abuse and so on.

"Follow the money" is a good technique, and David does not have wealth that can be traced to the 13 Families. He never hid in anonymous forums, he came forward. There is no distraction in his book "The Biggest Secret", it is phenomenal eye opening information and if he had not written that, it would have taken others decades to unravel the exact conspiracies.
I for one will always pray for his happiness, and pray that all his detractors forget everything they ever knew because of his efforts.

The Spell runs deep.


Others "unraveled "it before him. Ever hear of Alex Christopher and Pandora's Box? 

 
[size="1"]"Pandora’s Box Millennium Edition is a new update of the original version of the book. Since it was first published in 1993 many things have happened in the world and with myself and my family…. Beside a fellow by the name of David Ike decided that it was alright for him to take all of my material along with Alex Colliers’ and Phil Sparks’ information and use it to create his The Biggest Secret and others. Our books is where he got a large portion of his material without our permission. In some cases he copied my book almost word for word. When I discovered what had happened I decided that it was a good time to let someone else take the heat for a while. I was really busy with my family issues.
--Alexander Christopher [/size]

[Richard]

Icke got a lot of his material from Brian Desborough too. Most researchers get their material from earlier sources. stew does the same thing too. The one thing David did was bring more attention to the reptilians than previous researchers. Like Dan Brown brought more attention to the Jesus conspiracy than previous researchers.