Thread Rating:
  • 2 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Expansions.com exposed
#41

(01-06-2012, 09:41 PM)Octahedron Wrote: Richard & I have had experienced different standpoints and viewpoints to Expansions for many years; sometimes Richard was more pro and I neutral, sometimes I was more pro en Richard more against, because we were looking for hard proofs. Maybe that's the miracle of Hyperspacecafe; that  Richard and did allow each other to experience Expansions  from all viewpoints, even if I had to "defend" Expansions against i.e. yukesam or MC and others in the past in theoretical discussions; it created an enormous opportunity to go to the core of Expansions motivations and their agenda. Not to forget MC, who had also given a lot of input at HCF, unfortunately MC had not a good match with some HCF members last year; however some people like me need both HCF and MC, and still do appreciate both of them to unmask Expansions.

I was pro expansions before I learned the truth about them. Online they put on a pretty good con job but after being around them in person is when you start seeing the truth about them. I still agree with some of the things they say but not all. They are like most disinfo agents where half of their info is true.

I wish MC wasn't so rude to people because she does have a lot of good info to share. I wish things could have worked out with her being here.

Reply

#42
.
Reading these diverse opinions and superb reasoning are why I enjoy this forum. To Richard, Elizabeth, Jacaranda, Octahedron, Purple Pebble, MN,, and so many others, keep up the good work and keep posting.
Reply

#43
Thank you BlueMoon and all the posters. Thank you especially to Richard and William for moderating so well...NOT AN EASY HOBBY!
Reply

#44
<p>
(01-06-2012, 10:08 PM)Richard Wrote: </p>
<p>I was pro expansions before I learned the truth about them. Online they put on a pretty good con job but after being around them in person is when you start seeing the truth about them. I still agree with some of the things they say but not all. They are like most disinfo agents where half of their info is true.</p>
<p>
Yes, in the beginning they tend to upgrade &amp; empower their clients with truthful information and exercises for a while, until they put their clients in stage 2, where the clients are conned with manipulations, sexual disinfo, deprogramming disasters and taking money, until it is almost to late for them to get out of the sh*t. People who have survived or surpassed the mixed sh*t (good/bad/ugly) of Expansions are invited to tell their stories here. I am always curious. </p>
<p>
Quote:I wish MC wasn't so rude to people because she does have a lot of good info to share. I wish things could have worked out with her being here.</p>
<p>
Sometimes a big thunder is needed to clear up the sky. Nothing is lost, everything can still be fixed. Nothing has to be forced.</p>
<p>Big patience can help. Conflicts can be evaluated and maybe solved in an adult way if people take their time &amp; distance.  Learning from each other is impossible without conflicts in internet discussions, esp. with these extreme complex subjects like Expansions &amp; Illuminati agendas. I have also made many mistakes through the years at HCF and I have learnt from them. I did tend to be a little arrogant for to long in some subjects and I had not always the time to follow and read everything here.</p>
<p>2011 was a bumpy year for HCF.  But the results were excellent, like the input from yukesam &amp; Jacaranda and other new members i.e. in relation to that fake website of SJ. The topics about David Icke were also very valuable.</p>
Reply

#45
<p><em>"Yes, in the beginning they tend to upgrade &amp; empower their clients with truthful information and exercises for a while, until they put their clients in stage 2, where the clients are conned with manipulations, sexual disinfo, deprogramming disasters and taking money, until it is almost to late for them to get out of the sh*t. People who have survived or surpassed the mixed sh*t (good/bad/ugly) of Expansions are invited to tell their stories here. I am always curious"</em> (Octahedron)</p>
<p><strong>VERY WELL SAID OCTAHEDRON!</strong> <img class="smilie" src="images/smilies/shy.png" alt="Shy" border="0" /> Anyone who posts their stories here is helping other people without a doubt! The 'semi-positive' stage-one that Octa so eloquently articulated is the ammunition that keeps SO MANY highly intuitive, wise, intelligent and otherwise aware people still mired in their web. The web is SOOOO sticky and complex that it can pull in sages and saints alike.</p>
<p>I WOULD NEVER EVER UNDERESTIMATE THIS PARTICULAR CULT and some of the ones being cooked up under our noses (exposure by Purple Pebble.)  As we truthseekers get more sophisticated...able to smell a rat right off the bat...THEY too get more sophisticated. They read this website and others and see where our thinking is taking us and then adapt.  Our numbers here are too small for them to worry about though.</p>
<p>THANKS FOR THE STAYING POWER--over the years--RICHARD and WILLIAM and HCF NEWS and ADMIN! There is very high quality analysis and postings here. Second to none and we are going to need support and help from each other over the coming 2012 year. I'm sorry if I come across as too arrogant and angry sometimes too--it's a combination of my Aries Rising and my threatenend tenuous grasp on the slippery realities I'm encountering. Plus this reality REALLY S*CKS...especially now!</p>
<p>Thanks for humoring me though! <img class="smilie" src="images/smilies/tongue.png" alt="Tongue" border="0" /></p>
Reply

#46

(01-08-2012, 09:23 AM)Octahedron Wrote:

Yes, in the beginning they tend to upgrade & empower their clients with truthful information and exercises for a while, until they put their clients in stage 2, where the clients are conned with manipulations, sexual disinfo, deprogramming disasters and taking money, until it is almost to late for them to get out of the sh*t.

They are good con artist and know how to size up their mark. With most con artists the first stage is always great. Then stage 2 is when they sock it to you.

Reply

#47
<p>
(01-08-2012, 10:34 AM)Elizabeth Wrote: </p>
<p>They read this website and others and see where our thinking is taking us and then adapt.  Our numbers here are too small for them to worry about though.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p> </p>
<p>It is correct that they read this site on a regular basis and this is also the reason why I do not discuss in detail what exactly the Swerdlows are doing wrong, as I do not want to give them a chance to correct themselves. They are thieves and will simply reproduce good information on their own website. The only exception is that while information here is free, over there you get to pay good money for it. So Stewart can drive a Hummer. And fly Business Class. Stay in five star hotels.</p>
<p>The second thing is that while this site in terms of traffic is certainly smaller than theirs, our truth sure hurts more than theirs. They are having to give 50% discount on consultations now and yet they are not helping anyone, on the contrary, the Swerdlows are responsible for more pain and abuse than anyone else that I can think of. Quantity is certainly not an indication for quality here.</p>
Reply

#48
<p>
(01-06-2012, 09:41 PM)Octahedron Wrote: </p>
<p>Jacaranda,  HCF has a reason to be proud of people like you.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Octahedron, thank you for the flowers. Though my thank goes out back to you, GWSOL, PP, MN, Elizabeth, Richard, and all the others who have been posting here, and for Richard to have maintained this forum despite the despicable attacks by these crooneys! It shows that the truth will always outlast lies and lies have become a synonyme of 'Swerdlow'. So I think we should all be proud to have had the courage to speak out immediately after having been part of that cult, and despite the threats and attacks received. Particularly those, who were slandered by the Swerdlows publicly by the false hyperspacecafe site, as well as expansions.com have my deep respect. So thanks and well done to all of you!</p>
Reply

#49
<p>
(01-08-2012, 09:23 AM)Octahedron Wrote: </p>
<p>Yes, in the beginning they tend to upgrade &amp; empower their clients with truthful information and exercises for a while, until they put their clients in stage 2, where the clients are conned with manipulations, sexual disinfo, deprogramming disasters and taking money, until it is almost to late for them to get out of the sh*t. People who have survived or surpassed the mixed sh*t (good/bad/ugly) of Expansions are invited to tell their stories here. I am always curious.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Well, when I consider your words I notice that the Swerdlows play on a weakness of any human being on the planet. Since birth we make negative experiences - parents who refuse to give into our demands, in some cases worse, lovers who break our hearts, bosses or teachers who are tough on us, etc. It grows our spirit, makes us whom we are. Many chose to ignore the memory from these experiences and simply move on. Others remember specific memories which have hurt too much to forget. We all have our garbage, but it is part of life. It has been part of human society ever since humans interacted with another. This is not a new phenomenon.</p>
<p>The Swerdlows exploit this by telling you that you have been abused, in fact that all these experiences were designed specifically to mess you up! They even have the nerve to charge you US$ 600 for a 2hr consultation to tell you that. I am not saying that these rituals do not exist, but it remains suspicious that all Expansions clients are abuse victims.</p>
<p>Same can be said about their news analysis. Of course conspiracy theories are interesting. The bottom line though is, what you see printed in the press, or displayed on the news is the status quo that the world lives by. It is indeed interesting to know that behind the scenes things work differently, but it doesn't affect your life. And notice that Stewart only gives a one dimensional analysis of the news...</p>
<p>Part of the problem is that we don't know why things happen. Most of them just do due to destiny. They are part of life and we all share similar experiences. Philosophers have written enough books to fill libraries and still cannot explain why things happen. Religion seeks to give a reason and still leaves room for doubt. We just don't know what destiny is and why it exists. But we can experience it. Sects and cults fill this gap by giving an easy explanation. The standard reply of Expansions is mind-programming and sexual ritual abuse, to explain your status quo. They then give you a solution to modify the status quo. Only problem with that, which most realize eventually, is that you cannot cure a problem which does not exist. And, while you waste all that time and energy doing that, you abandon what you should be doing above all: live your life to your fullest potential.</p>
<p>It is our own weaknesses that lead us to be mislead by people like the Swerdlows. There is no remedy to life though - it is what it is. We can certainly smooth the edges by living in a balanced and serene way. By deciding what we want from life and then getting it.</p>
<p>Once in a while though, when the past experience hurt too much, a catharsis can work wonders! It only takes as little as a week, and costs nothing. In view of that, why even bother to paying attention to the Swerdlows? Yes, why indeed...</p>
Reply

#50

(01-09-2012, 03:42 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: the Swerdlows are responsible for more pain and abuse than anyone else that I can think of.

I agree with that and that's why I think it's important that they be exposed. I know lots of people they have ripped off and put in lots of pain. Most of them are like rape victims where they don't want to discuss it in public. That's why the small army we have here is important to get the word out.

Reply



Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread:
1 Guest(s)

Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 Melroy van den Berg.