Going through a transition

[Trinity]

There seems to be some very negative views here on channeling. Can I ask why and how these opinions are formed and if there is any evidence that support your claims please?

[Richard]

I couldn’t tell you if all channeling is from satellites or not but I know a lot of it is. It is uncanny how similar their messages are, regardless of which 'entity' they claim to be the source of their 'divine guidance'. I would suggest that any individual considering the content of "channeled" information should be discerning and critically evaluate whether the message they are "receiving" or considering is empowering (in a non-selfish sense) or would serve to invoke thought patterns beneficial to the New World Order. Before we got heavy into satellites people were able to channel. Like Jane Roberts was a famous channeler that channeled Seth.

[Trinity]

Ditto what Richard said. The voices are most likely from NWO projects such as Bluebeam.I am suspect of most ,if not all ,channeling. Yes, even Cayces.

Are you reffering to Edgar Cayce?

He was a psychic and medical clairvoyant. There is a huge difference between this and channeling.

[Richard]

I agree with you about Cayce. I never heard that he did any kind of channeling.

[Trinity]

I couldn’t tell you if all channeling is from satellites or not but I know a lot of it is. It is uncanny how similar their messages are, regardless of which 'entity' they claim to be the source of their 'divine guidance'. I would suggest that any individual considering the content of "channeled" information should be discerning and critically evaluate whether the message they are "receiving" or considering is empowering (in a non-selfish sense) or would serve to invoke thought patterns beneficial to the New World Order. Before we got heavy into satellites people were able to channel. Like Jane Roberts was a famous channeler that channeled Seth.

Richard thank you for your response. You say above "I know a lot of it is". I again ask for your source here or some kind of proof?

This post also seems contradictory to your previous one:

Channeling is dangerous and I would recommend you not trying it. Most people who channel are getting messages from satellites and not from higher beings

I am at a loss at to how most messages are from satellites and are dangerous and yet channeling has a history that precedes satellites? Can I ask how you know it is dangerous? Do you have personal experience?

[eagertolearn]

I my goodness i have to write some more. I must say that yea you people know alot more about the newage stuff than i so remember i'm writing in laymans terms.

Thankyou trinity for your input. Now people i'm just a half aboriginal and half white australian. My grandmother was a psychic and didn't even know it. She'd tell me and my family all this stuff that would happen and it did. She would just say i can see thats all. I grew up with this as the norm in my life.

People now days have names for every single little thing. I see things and know there going to happen, and what is the difference between that and hearing spirit or spirits.

I dont sit and do little incantations or invoke things or chant and all that. What i have is natural.

Look when i walk into a psychic shop and want to see a psychic. On the leaflet it may say that this person only channels from spirit are they psychic or a channeler????? All i see is that they see things while they read without tarot cards and also they may say i have a message from the spirit of lets say your grandmother for you and tell you what it is.

Whats the difference? What am i? Psychic cos i see things or a chaneler cos i hear? Or both?

I can feel auras and work on them and also get rid of spirits from people what do you call that?

I'd like to know please?

[Trinity]

I my goodness i have to write some more. I must say that yea you people know alot more about the newage stuff than i so remember i'm writing in laymans terms.

Thankyou trinity for your input. Now people i'm just a half aboriginal and half white australian. My grandmother was a psychic and didn't even know it. She'd tell me and my family all this stuff that would happen and it did. She would just say i can see thats all. I grew up with this as the norm in my life.

People now days have names for every single little thing. I see things and know there going to happen, and what is the difference between that and hearing spirit or spirits.

I dont sit and do little incantations or invoke things or chant and all that. What i have is natural.

Look when i walk into a psychic shop and want to see a psychic. On the leaflet it may say that this person only channels from spirit are they psychic or a channeler????? All i see is that they see things while they read without tarot cards and also they may say i have a message from the spirit of lets say your grandmother for you and tell you what it is.

Whats the difference? What am i? Psychic cos i see things or a chaneler cos i hear? Or both?

I can feel auras and work on them and also get rid of spirits from people what do you call that?

I'd like to know please?

To me there are different levels of spirit. Those on the astral plane or no more advanced than us here and can often bring wrong, false or mis-leading messages. It is spirits on this level that clairvoyants access and also psychic interaction.

These are souls waiting to re-incarnate and often have "issues" just as we do. They can be down, paranoid and in pain etc.

Channeling accesses higher spirits-those that no longer need to incarnate and have evolved to a higher level. They often come to us as guides or angels at the highest level. Channeling should always feel good and bring messages to improve spiritual growth.

Do you see auras or just feel them? I see them too and can tell when there are lower spirits (from the astral ) around people. The can be almost parasitical in nature and attach themselves to people's auras to feed off their energy.

[Richard]

Richard thank you for your response. You say above "I know a lot of it is". I again ask for your source here or some kind of proof?

This post also seems contradictory to your previous one:

Channeling is dangerous and I would recommend you not trying it. Most people who channel are getting messages from satellites and not from higher beings

I am at a loss at to how most messages are from satellites and are dangerous and yet channeling has a history that precedes satellites? Can I ask how you know it is dangerous? Do you have personal experience?

Trinity, I’m not sure what kind of proof you’re looking for. If you do any research on mind control you’ll discover governments use satellites to program people. They can even beam voices into your head. The best way to judge channeling is by the message. Most channeled messages that I’ve read always promote new age beliefs. That is a clue to the source right there.

Yes, you’re correct the channeling was done before the use of satellites. I never said against that. Like I said Jane Roberts truly channeled Seth.

Here's a couple articles you can read.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbl...ul05.shtml

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

[Astrojewels]

There is a dark cloud that covers our earth, but it is so complex that the general population can not fathom the reality of what is going on. If your army has fewer soldiers than the opposing army, you can not win by brutal force, you must win by illusion and manipulation, and therefore the opposing army will surrender only to realize they could have won if they were not fooled.
Religion is the greatest source of mind control, but what about those who can not be fooled into such an illusion we have the ‘new age’ this is targeted at people that are psychic, clairvoyant, environmentally green, etc and those who have abilities that this world can not give proof or explain. Most new age beliefs are no different to religious dogma- heaven and hell. But new age has taken one step further into this philosophy that those with the ‘gift’ can access the other side way before they die, therefore it provides the guru with a god essence, what this does is saves a whole lot of time programming each individual, because the guru only needs to be mind controlled because he/she will program the followers, so you can program 100 people through 1.
There is a definite bridge between both worlds but there are also restrictions to what a spirit is permitted to do in the physical world. Please explain to us trinity why you would channel spirits then we may understand. Guides are so often a manipulation to take away your independent power, it is like the illusion of healers, no one can heal you, they may hold your hand and give direction but at the end of the day only you have the power to heal your own pain, because the pain of one person can not be felt by another in true form.

[eagertolearn]

To me there are different levels of spirit. Those on the astral plane or no more advanced than us here and can often bring wrong, false or mis-leading messages. It is spirits on this level that clairvoyants access and also psychic interaction.

These are souls waiting to re-incarnate and often have "issues" just as we do. They can be down, paranoid and in pain etc.

Channeling accesses higher spirits-those that no longer need to incarnate and have evolved to a higher level. They often come to us as guides or angels at the highest level. Channeling should always feel good and bring messages to improve spiritual growth.

Do you see auras or just feel them? I see them too and can tell when there are lower spirits (from the astral ) around people. The can be almost parasitical in nature and attach themselves to people's auras to feed off their energy.

Ok you call it different levels of spirit i was calling it different levels and how i was finetuning myself to higher frequencies.   In this book called Opening to channel and how to connect with your guide by Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer. It says the same.

It says the causal plane is a very high, fine vibratory dimension that you can exist in after this life only when you have harmonised many of your energies and evolved to a high state. Most souls exist in the astral plane when they die, for they are not yet evolved enough to live in the causal plane.  It olso goes on to say that in the causal plane they evolve further by serving humanity.

This totally fits to what you say i used to hear those in the astral plane and still can if i wish although i feel like i have moved up to hearing in the causal plane now.  Thats the best way i can describe it.

Anyway i mostly feel all that is in the aura. I feel whats stuck in it. I feel the energy of the chakras spiraling, how strong they are, if they are weak. I dont actually see auras although i see with my inner eye when i tune into working on the person. Also with my inner eye i see the people if they are hanging around and i feel the energy of that spirit, i know if they are bad or good but i always ask them what their purpose is, if they are lost and that,who they are, if they are a dead relative or guide.  Then i tell the person i'm working on about it and ask them if they want to move them on or are happy to leave them in their company.

I dont see on a regular basis unless i tune it.  Inner eye or see with my mind is the same thing to me.  It's the same as looking into the future or the past, thats why i call it inner eye.