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Hi from South Africa
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(10-05-2012, 06:58 AM)ashanti Wrote:
(10-05-2012, 04:13 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: Ashanti, I agree with you in that the things they discuss are interesting! Mind control does exist, the US Government has admitted doing it and I know from another government source that underground bases indeed do exist, with a lot of very weird stuff going on there.

I also know now that specific mind control for such a large scale of people that Stewart pretends exists, is not at all possible, due to sheer lack of resources of programming so many people. Stewart claims there are more than 2% of specifically mind-programmed US Citizens around. In 2010, about 4 million babies were born in the United States, so you can expect similar figures for 2011, 2012, etc. If only 2% of these babies will be specifically mind-controlled, this would require the US Government to specifically program 80'000 people, each year. If we assume, based on Stewart's writings, that programming is a continuous intrusion into the victim's life, say for example, you'd be required to be programmed from age 0-20, it would then imply the US Government would be programming about 2 million people regularly. The sheer logistics of this shows the absurdity of Stewart's reasoning. According to the US Department of Justice, there were almost 200'000 cases of rape reported in 2005. My question to you: how often to you read about rape in the paper, and how often do you hear about sexual satanic ritual abuse? Exactly.

I had also asked a medical doctor, who has done some research into the matter, and who has told me that the trauma required for the human mind to fragment, such as a child could experience if being raped, is so huge, that not only would we notice the social impact of having millions of traumatized people, but also, the efforts required, especially for a high number of victims, for this to be done successfully would be tremendous. And, as we know, people talk. Not only would there be a large number of victims sharing their stories; there would be also far more programmers 'whistle-blowing'. I haven't met a great deal of either side. Early mind-programming experiments failed, not least because the victims reported a similar story, and someone in the end connected the dots. It would be very difficult to hide this if done on a scale as large as Stewart claims exists.

Mind control does exist, however, and there are people who have been made victims of such trauma. Sexual rituals do exist, especially amongst the established monetary elite. Satanic rituals do exist, though mostly in form of cults and sects. General mind control exists and is virtually omnipresent, but to a large extend, this is the socialization process, which can be influenced and guided very easily - look at the media, advertisement, political propaganda, prevailing opinions and social dogma, to name a few. It becomes mind programming when these things are turned as weapons against you, to direct your decision-making and actions into a desired direction. We have all witnessed this.

Stewart was once traumatized very severely at age of 8, and I suspect that it was starting since that time that he started to creating his own version of reality and to giving conspiracy theories more value than reality. The subjects he discusses are interesting, no doubt. However, I do invite you to verify everything he says. Look at the facts. You will very quickly see what to believe in what he says and what not.

The second observation is the entire cult / sectarian behaviour at Expansions. You mention their heavy reactions to criticism. Observe how they put themselves and their message above that of others, in fact even push you to believe that whatever others say is not true. This precisely what cults and sects do. An example are the statistics I showed earlier on. These figures are official, I did not make them up. The rest is just maths and common sense. They will argue that official statistics are all made up. Where is the evidence for that? In truth, the government cannot make up information, which others, such as the media or academia, could easily research themselves and you'll find that there are usually several completely independent organizations measuring the same things, and still they find the same results. Ah, but these institutions are all connected through the Illuminati... Again, were is the evidence? Problem is, you cannot show evidence for something that you have made up.

This then leads me to a second observation; how can you treat people for specific mind programming when it extremely unlikely that you have indeed been specifically mind programmed? And if you were specifically mind-programmed, would visualizations and breathing techniques really help you? Say you were a victim of rape (I mention this as an example, in the assumption that most of us can imagine the pain and trauma this would cause more easily, given it is portrayed in the media), would you really start breathing differently and visualizing altars and what have you, to get over your trauma? Exactly. You'd need far heavier gear than this... Or take Janet's affirmations. This from a woman who spent time in an asylum! How many people do you know wake up every morning with an affirmation for the day? Exactly. Nothing against a positive mindset, but affirmations to remember events that never happened or to lose weight? Come on...

Based on my own research, the evidence which I have seen, or been shown, I can tell you that Expansions is a cult, with aspirations to becoming a full blown sect. You know, Stewart wanted me to help him build an Expansions Camp in Namibia! Think of Stewart as their leader, and everybody having to follow weird rules of behavior, including to 'sexually deprogramming each other'. One thing I know is that wisdom is universal, and I certainly do not need a guru to tell me what is right or wrong.

Yes, a lot of the information and things they discuss is very interesting, but I invite you to do your own research. There are statistics everywhere and about almost anything, all easily available to anyone. If a phenomenon really exists, there are usually more than one source to talk about it. There are thousands of stories from people who have witnessed ghosts and / or UFO's to make it impossible to rule out the possibility that these things are real. There is only Stewart and Janet out there claiming that archetypes will heal you from specific mind-programming.

The second thing I would invite you to do, while you still examine his writings, is to relativize, to put things in perspective. Take his book 13-Cubed for instance. How many people do you think are likely to be programmed as Presidential model? Even if that were true, it would hardly be more than a very small number. Yet, he presents this as if it were a common thing. How many people do you have living in your neighborhood looking like Bill Clinton, or George Bush, or Jacob Zuma? The only people I know that needed doubles were Michael Jackson and Adolf Hitler...

Finally, there are so many contradictions in what they say that it becomes impossible to believe in anything they say, once you have realized it. Notice they don't just share information and let you deal with it, like wikipedia does for instance, but insist they are right, everybody else is wrong, and f*** you if you dare criticize! If you know you're right, you don't need to force your opinion onto others. So why do they do it?

Here, in a nutshell, you have my take on the Expansions Cult.
And thank you for this. You raise some very valid questions on a number of counts, and your points echo some of the thoughts I have been having along the way, while keeping an open mind. I certainly intend to do further research. Your questions reminded me of some more thoughts I had along the way at various times, both from reading the works, and observing the posts and interactions on their website. Among these:

- When I was reading "Montauk: The Alien Connection", I couldn't help thinking that the experiences described either were real, but I could not see why Stewart was singled out for such special treatment, or, he is mentally ill. It was written like a child who fantasizes about being the most important person in the universe. I thought to myself "If I had experienced things like that, would I be writing in this style about how important I am?" No, I would not.

- Your points on the numbers of people and statistics of actual victims of government mind control programmes (and agree, they do exist, there is plenty of evidence of that) are valid. Yet so many people who join the expansions community all claim the same experiences, all start talking about their "triggers", and all get advised to do their "release work". It just does not resonate. Also, victims of this type of government mind control programming require very specifically individually tailored therapy, the "one size fits all" approach does not fit. I notice Stewart and Janet are also not at all interested in the individual cases of people who share very personal details about their lives - these people get flip responses such as "What about your mind pattern attracted that to you?" or "You need to do your release work". Some of the people are clearly disturbed by traumas in their lives, not necessarily anything to do with government mind control, but just plain old family or life issues - so applying the "mind control" solution is indeed an inappropriate response to people who need real therapy to deal with their issues.

- I found 13 cubed to be interesting, but found Stewart's analysis of the cases to be superficial, and uninformed. Some of the people are clearly mentally ill, some clearly have had childhood abuse experiences, and if they did, they sure as heck need more than "green spiral staircase" to deal with childhood abuse. I think childhood abuse is widespread, and this, rather than government mind control programmes, is the source of much of what many people are needing to work through.

- I have also noticed over time, Stewart and Janet make predictions of impending false flags, staged alien invasions, and so on, and none of these came to pass. Instead of admitting egg on their face, they quickly spin and move on. Some of the videos they present as evidence of their "we told you so" predictions really are trite. They obviously do not have any knowledge of research methodology, and evidence based research.

What I do find amazing is how many people are just uncritically swallowing it all up. One or two dissenters emerge, then get squashed and no doubt booted, but the masses suck it all up, without question, happy to adore their gurus.

Yes, you are right. This is just like a cult. I normally think of cults as organized groups with systems in place, where people live together and spy on each other and report each other - such as the main cults we all know about. But this is a cult in formation indeed. It requires people to suppress or do away with their own worldviews, and accept Stewart and Janet's worldview uncritically, it requires adoration of the gurus, and anyone that gets out of line is attacked to either fall back in place, or be ejected, it requires money (of course), it requires people practice the diet, techniques and worldview that Stewart and Janet dictate, it is starting to develop peer group pressure to protect the guru and attack anyone expressing an individual opinion that does not support their dictates........


I just saw this posted on Stewart's FB profile (public): "Waiting in the lounge in NY for my private escort to my plane. When I checked in they immediately recognized the "Sverdlov" name so they asked an Albanian security guard to escort me personally to their amazing lounge! It looks like a Romanov castle. When it is time to board they will come and get me to personally escort me through security and onto the plane. My Russian adventure is about to begin!"

And I nearly puked. For me, I think Stewart's pathological Ego is THE biggest off-putter. No person of great spiritual mastery speaks with an ego like that. I think of all the many people I admire, spiritual and scientific - Gandhi, Krishnamurti, Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King, Carl Sagan, and a hundred others, and they all had HUMILITY in common.

I have been thinking aloud here, your post and questions prompted these thoughts, and it has been very helpful, thank you very much indeed, much appreciated!

- ashanti

Krishnamurti even admitted he had been deceived and duped.
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#32
Hope to see one day these people get put in their place but they still keep going like energizer batteries. It's something else for sure.
Someday something will come their way like a lawsuit or something they wont be able to deal with. Can't wait to see it.
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(10-05-2012, 06:58 AM)ashanti Wrote: And thank you for this. You raise some very valid questions on a number of counts, and your points echo some of the thoughts I have been having along the way, while keeping an open mind. I certainly intend to do further research. Your questions reminded me of some more thoughts I had along the way at various times, both from reading the works, and observing the posts and interactions on their website. Among these:

- When I was reading "Montauk: The Alien Connection", I couldn't help thinking that the experiences described either were real, but I could not see why Stewart was singled out for such special treatment, or, he is mentally ill. It was written like a child who fantasizes about being the most important person in the universe. I thought to myself "If I had experienced things like that, would I be writing in this style about how important I am?" No, I would not.

- Your points on the numbers of people and statistics of actual victims of government mind control programmes (and agree, they do exist, there is plenty of evidence of that) are valid. Yet so many people who join the expansions community all claim the same experiences, all start talking about their "triggers", and all get advised to do their "release work". It just does not resonate. Also, victims of this type of government mind control programming require very specifically individually tailored therapy, the "one size fits all" approach does not fit. I notice Stewart and Janet are also not at all interested in the individual cases of people who share very personal details about their lives - these people get flip responses such as "What about your mind pattern attracted that to you?" or "You need to do your release work". Some of the people are clearly disturbed by traumas in their lives, not necessarily anything to do with government mind control, but just plain old family or life issues - so applying the "mind control" solution is indeed an inappropriate response to people who need real therapy to deal with their issues.

- I found 13 cubed to be interesting, but found Stewart's analysis of the cases to be superficial, and uninformed. Some of the people are clearly mentally ill, some clearly have had childhood abuse experiences, and if they did, they sure as heck need more than "green spiral staircase" to deal with childhood abuse. I think childhood abuse is widespread, and this, rather than government mind control programmes, is the source of much of what many people are needing to work through.

- I have also noticed over time, Stewart and Janet make predictions of impending false flags, staged alien invasions, and so on, and none of these came to pass. Instead of admitting egg on their face, they quickly spin and move on. Some of the videos they present as evidence of their "we told you so" predictions really are trite. They obviously do not have any knowledge of research methodology, and evidence based research.

What I do find amazing is how many people are just uncritically swallowing it all up. One or two dissenters emerge, then get squashed and no doubt booted, but the masses suck it all up, without question, happy to adore their gurus.

Yes, you are right. This is just like a cult. I normally think of cults as organized groups with systems in place, where people live together and spy on each other and report each other - such as the main cults we all know about. But this is a cult in formation indeed. It requires people to suppress or do away with their own worldviews, and accept Stewart and Janet's worldview uncritically, it requires adoration of the gurus, and anyone that gets out of line is attacked to either fall back in place, or be ejected, it requires money (of course), it requires people practice the diet, techniques and worldview that Stewart and Janet dictate, it is starting to develop peer group pressure to protect the guru and attack anyone expressing an individual opinion that does not support their dictates........


I just saw this posted on Stewart's FB profile (public): "Waiting in the lounge in NY for my private escort to my plane. When I checked in they immediately recognized the "Sverdlov" name so they asked an Albanian security guard to escort me personally to their amazing lounge! It looks like a Romanov castle. When it is time to board they will come and get me to personally escort me through security and onto the plane. My Russian adventure is about to begin!"

And I nearly puked. For me, I think Stewart's pathological Ego is THE biggest off-putter. No person of great spiritual mastery speaks with an ego like that. I think of all the many people I admire, spiritual and scientific - Gandhi, Krishnamurti, Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King, Carl Sagan, and a hundred others, and they all had HUMILITY in common.

I have been thinking aloud here, your post and questions prompted these thoughts, and it has been very helpful, thank you very much indeed, much appreciated!

- ashanti

Hi again,

Well, Stewart is traumatized from childhood and he tries to compensate this by attracting attention to himself, as well as to invent himself an alternative reality. This also, I presume, explains his childish way of expressing himself, as well as to overreact to criticism. You might call it a post-traumatic stress syndrome, but if I am not mistaken, with trauma happening early in your life, the effects are somewhat different than with people who experience their trauma during adulthood. Yet, the effects described are very similar to what we can observe with Stewart. In his case, for one, it is evident that what people describe as highly intelligent is in part due to trying to maintain an alternative reality as true, when actual reality does not match your fantasy world version. This childhood trauma is also where this oversized ego comes from; it is part of his alternative reality where he is trying to reassure himself of being important, as his traumatic experience took away his dignity. He really is a poor devil in a way. Plus, don't forget that this experience dates back almost 60 years ago, without any psychiatric treatment whatsoever (at least not that I am aware of).

You mention triggers, but which are a normal thing in any human being. It is the result of mind conditioning, which what happens when we grow up, go through experiences, and add value to repeating experiences. The pioneer of this was Abraham Maslow with his classical conditioning experiments involving dogs. Advertisement and the media make full advantage of this to try and stir public opinion or our consumption behavior. To an extend, this is what can be described as general mind programming, but really it is just conditioning. It is however, a life-saving ability of the mind. Without it, we would not learn from experiences and continue, for example, eating poisonous berries all the time.

Stewart and Janet are using this to disillusion their clients, which is what most sects and cults will do, in order to lead their followers to doubt actual reality, and thus into believing the cult reality, which draws them closer to the cult. You can see the absurdity of trying to remove the natural conditioning of the mind using visualizations. It is absolutely pointless in every way.

This is dramatic however when people with serious issues come to these cults, only to be told to do visualizations, or affirmations, or sexual deprogramming, or whatever. These are solutions which do not work to problems which do not exist, as we have discussed in previous posts. People with serious issues require professional help specifically directed at whatever the problem is. You will not treat cancer through visualization, but what you are doing instead is to wait for medical treatment up to a point where it may be too late. I have observed them, and Janet in particular, doing all they can to sell their products, which has so far, to my knowledge, not helped anyone with a specific problem, even less so when that problem was a serious one. It is a pity that US laws are so flawed when it comes to cults/sects, as Expansions surely would be very difficult to continue to operate this way in most other countries.

You also mention his false predictions, or association fallacies as I called them. Well, I have taken the piss out of him on numerous occasions about this one - just check the expansions.com threads. It brings me back to the previous point made. A traumatized mind, someone who believes in his own fairy tales more than actual facts and reality, cannot make objective predictions. Hence most of what he foretells is completely random. They are mind farts. A good example is the staged alien invasion, which he has been talking about for ages, and which he predicted would happen in 1999, 2000, 2001, etc. It still hasn't happened. What this is about is that he is aware governments were planning a staged alien invasion ever since the 1960s. There exist secret documents about this. The idea is to create an outside threat which forces mankind into peace (and into ending the cold war, incidentally). As it happens the cold war has ended, and most governments today have more pressing problems. This is not really off the table, just not a priority. Stewart, however, hopes to land the biggest coup ever in foretelling the future: if the staged alien invasion were to finally happen, Stewart would be one of the few to have talked about this before it actually happened, drawing attention towards him. It is just marketing. Hence also why they never admit being wrong, as they must seem right no matter what.

People follow cults when they are lacking in reference points in their actual lives, or when these reference points start not making sense, because the consequences may seem to uncomfortable. When facing the facts or a problem is too hard, some are tempted to look for alternatives. Others are just curious and end-up believing in a guru, though again, through lack of reference points.
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(10-05-2012, 11:05 AM)BlueMoon Wrote: I knew one author who was shocked when the book came out and he saw major distortions in his story. He was made to look really bad and deranged and felt humiliated and betrayed because he was a loyal follower for many years.

This person also was led to believe SS had to ability see him by remote viewing in his own home. Such is the power of the Swerdlow manipulation. I decided not to read 13 cubed because after hearing this, I felt is was fiction.

I also heard on several occasions that Stewart distorted the facts in 13-Cubed, but which is not much different from what he does on his website, or in his other books. He regularly falls out with all of his partners for this very reason: that he changes a common work to fit his version or to his benefit, and against the will of his partners. The only exception so far seems to be David Icke, but presumably as they mutually support each other in selling a pie in the sky to the world.
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(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: Hi again,

Well, Stewart is traumatized from childhood and he tries to compensate this by attracting attention to himself, as well as to invent himself an alternative reality. This also, I presume, explains his childish way of expressing himself, as well as to overreact to criticism. You might call it a post-traumatic stress syndrome, but if I am not mistaken, with trauma happening early in your life, the effects are somewhat different than with people who experience their trauma during adulthood. Yet, the effects described are very similar to what we can observe with Stewart. In his case, for one, it is evident that what people describe as highly intelligent is in part due to trying to maintain an alternative reality as true, when actual reality does not match your fantasy world version. This childhood trauma is also where this oversized ego comes from; it is part of his alternative reality where he is trying to reassure himself of being important, as his traumatic experience took away his dignity. He really is a poor devil in a way. Plus, don't forget that this experience dates back almost 60 years ago, without any psychiatric treatment whatsoever (at least not that I am aware of).
I really do appreciate your insights into this aspect. My immediate response to this information is a wave of compassion for him. I do not at ALL trivialize the experiences recorded here from those who have been seriously burned by him, but just looking at this aspect, I can only feel compassion for him. It also shed insight for me on why I felt such a wave of guilt after I first posted here. It was the same feeling I had after my personal consult with him when he shared some things with me, and I felt sorry for him, because it was very clear that he had really suffered in the past. And like any other human being, he just wants to be loved, and healed of his suffering.
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: You mention triggers, but which are a normal thing in any human being. It is the result of mind conditioning, which what happens when we grow up, go through experiences, and add value to repeating experiences. The pioneer of this was Abraham Maslow with his classical conditioning experiments involving dogs. Advertisement and the media make full advantage of this to try and stir public opinion or our consumption behavior. To an extend, this is what can be described as general mind programming, but really it is just conditioning. It is however, a life-saving ability of the mind. Without it, we would not learn from experiences and continue, for example, eating poisonous berries all the time.
Yes, this is true, but it IS a reality that the Elite, including government and private institutions, use the knowledge of this mechanism and study it further for social behavioural control. I am thinking of places like the Tavistock Institute, the Rand Corporation, and many others. It is my experience and reality that governments do NOT exist for the well-being of their citizens, but exist as entities in themselves, seeking to parasite off ordinary people to consolidate all the power and wealth in their hands. The global goose-step towards totalitarian social control of the masses is undeniable, as is the increasing evidence of police brutality, whereby police are no longer there to protect the people, but to protect the state. A good article tracing the mechanism of this is here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/hegemony-an...l-control/
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: Stewart and Janet are using this to disillusion their clients, which is what most sects and cults will do, in order to lead their followers to doubt actual reality, and thus into believing the cult reality, which draws them closer to the cult. You can see the absurdity of trying to remove the natural conditioning of the mind using visualizations. It is absolutely pointless in every way.
Is it really? What if using the mind visualizations helps people get through the day, helps them to break out of the despair they may be feeling? Even if it is a placebo effect, is that really a bad thing? Using visualizations and affirmations is not unique to the Swerdlows, countless others have promoted it, including John Kehoe, Wayne Dyer and a whole host of people. Many cults do indeed exploit the harsh reality that governments and society are not designed for the benefit of people, and having worked in government myself, I know how one is prevented from solving problems to the benefit of the people, and social services never seem to be able to really address any problems. Cults can easily exploit this, and I contend that the reason cults are so effective is because of the failures of society and social structures such as governments, social services, education, and so on.
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: This is dramatic however when people with serious issues come to these cults, only to be told to do visualizations, or affirmations, or sexual deprogramming, or whatever. These are solutions which do not work to problems which do not exist, as we have discussed in previous posts. People with serious issues require professional help specifically directed at whatever the problem is. You will not treat cancer through visualization, but what you are doing instead is to wait for medical treatment up to a point where it may be too late. I have observed them, and Janet in particular, doing all they can to sell their products, which has so far, to my knowledge, not helped anyone with a specific problem, even less so when that problem was a serious one. It is a pity that US laws are so flawed when it comes to cults/sects, as Expansions surely would be very difficult to continue to operate this way in most other countries.
Yes, I agree with this. And US laws protect cults under the guise of "religious freedom", so cults are free to abuse people as much as they please, and the law protects them. Recent case in point: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25...00633.html
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: You also mention his false predictions, or association fallacies as I called them. Well, I have taken the piss out of him on numerous occasions about this one - just check the expansions.com threads. It brings me back to the previous point made. A traumatized mind, someone who believes in his own fairy tales more than actual facts and reality, cannot make objective predictions. Hence most of what he foretells is completely random. They are mind farts. A good example is the staged alien invasion, which he has been talking about for ages, and which he predicted would happen in 1999, 2000, 2001, etc. It still hasn't happened. What this is about is that he is aware governments were planning a staged alien invasion ever since the 1960s. There exist secret documents about this. The idea is to create an outside threat which forces mankind into peace (and into ending the cold war, incidentally). As it happens the cold war has ended, and most governments today have more pressing problems. This is not really off the table, just not a priority. Stewart, however, hopes to land the biggest coup ever in foretelling the future: if the staged alien invasion were to finally happen, Stewart would be one of the few to have talked about this before it actually happened, drawing attention towards him. It is just marketing. Hence also why they never admit being wrong, as they must seem right no matter what.
Yes, the whole staged alien invasion scenario, and project Bluebeam have been spoken about by others. I am familiar with the writings of Bill Cooper, Fritz Springmeier, and a host of others who have foretold of this possible scenario. My take is that it is one of many possible blueprints, as events unfold, governments usually have a number of possible scenarios to use and apply, and can change plans at the last moment. Agenda 21, the release of a killer virus, an economic crash, martial law - all are possible scenarios to be used, and even insiders cannot predict which, if any of these, will be used to finalize the vision of the Elites, such as Kissinger, Brzezinski, the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, et al. Stewart fails to cite his sources, and the refusal to admit mistakes is a hallmark of all cults. But we can see this in Mega-Corporations and Governments too, who PR spin events rather than be truthful.
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: People follow cults when they are lacking in reference points in their actual lives, or when these reference points start not making sense, because the consequences may seem to uncomfortable. When facing the facts or a problem is too hard, some are tempted to look for alternatives. Others are just curious and end-up believing in a guru, though again, through lack of reference points.
Yes. It is my view that anyone genuinely seeking to help others would be empowering them to seek only their own truth, and not require them to fit into a pre-packaged worldview. Critical thinking skills are essential for discernment, and anyone genuinely seeking to help others would be encouraging the development of critical thinking skills, as well as researching out all the evidence (as you do in your posts), and forming their own conclusions.
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Ashanti said:"Yes, I agree with this. And US laws protect cults under the guise of "religious freedom", so cults are free to abuse people as much as they please, and the law protects them. "



Guise by definition means false appearance.

Please explain why you believe the U.S. religous freedom laws to be a "false appearance".
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#37
Well, I suppose there is nothing wrong in principle of using meditation, visualizations, affirmations, etc., to build confidence. Our lives are not lived through meditation, but through action. So, perhaps I am just being pragmatic, but in my opinion if you know the solution to a problem the best way to resolve it is to tackle it head-on. Now, with Stewart and Janet making up problems for their clients (such as being with the wrong partner, such as having various health problems, etc.) you end up worrying about things that didn't really concern you before, and try to resolve these problems through visualizations, etc. I have not met many people so far who have met their future spouses by visualizing them. Neither have I seen anyone getting healed from cancer through affirmations. Nor have I seen anyone becoming a millionaire by using personalized healing archetype cards - this doesn't even work for the Swerdlow's themselves.

So what I was trying to say is that we should when dealing with a cult such as the Expansions Cult relativize and check with the facts and based on which the best way to resolve a problem is usually to just tackle it.

Also, yes I do think that Stewart is a poor bastard, but that gives him absolutely no right to deceive others for sexual and monetary personal benefits. Being a victim does not authorize you to harm others. Never. And considering what he does and did to others, I have no pity for him.

I personally honestly don't know if there really is a conspiracy by a few to harm everyone else. It is true that governments do not exist for the welfare of the nation; all governments exist only to maintain social peace, based on which a common wealth can grow. The function, thus, of any government is power. The more power government has the more easily it can achieve it's goals. All governments know on the other hand that the people can overthrow same at any given moment. You will know for instance how volatile inner peace in South Africa is. It is to the benefit of all, including government officials, if as many of the people as possible are well off, as this in turn leads to more power for the government; reason being that government then has more resources to focus on extending its power; whereas in a crisis government is focused on maintaining its power. The more I think of it and the more I speak to friends who are government officials, including in high places, the more I find that when a large crisis is triggered by a few, it usually is a massive f***-up. This leads me to another element, which is personal interests. We are all looking for our personal interests first, and each group that has some sort of power, is trying to act on behalf of its members in order to increase influence and personal gains deriving thereof. And here, it is hard to find a coordinated effort to conspire against all mankind, which is against the interest of all.

Finally, the problem with the laws in the US is that in case of cults and sects, the doctrine does not attack the cults (freedom of speech), and neither the freedom to choose. In the US, if you prefer to treat your cancer through visualization, it is your choice, and if you die as a result, your responsibility. In most other countries, such cults could be attacked for disillusioning you into believing they have an alternative to modern medicine, which in case you die as a result, will lead to the cult being prosecuted. I am pretty sure that if you checked, you'd find that the laws of Michigan are even more lavish on this than in the rest of the US.
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#38
(10-08-2012, 05:42 AM)ashanti Wrote:
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: Hi again,

Well, Stewart is traumatized from childhood and he tries to compensate this by attracting attention to himself, as well as to invent himself an alternative reality. This also, I presume, explains his childish way of expressing himself, as well as to overreact to criticism. You might call it a post-traumatic stress syndrome, but if I am not mistaken, with trauma happening early in your life, the effects are somewhat different than with people who experience their trauma during adulthood. Yet, the effects described are very similar to what we can observe with Stewart. In his case, for one, it is evident that what people describe as highly intelligent is in part due to trying to maintain an alternative reality as true, when actual reality does not match your fantasy world version. This childhood trauma is also where this oversized ego comes from; it is part of his alternative reality where he is trying to reassure himself of being important, as his traumatic experience took away his dignity. He really is a poor devil in a way. Plus, don't forget that this experience dates back almost 60 years ago, without any psychiatric treatment whatsoever (at least not that I am aware of).
I really do appreciate your insights into this aspect. My immediate response to this information is a wave of compassion for him. I do not at ALL trivialize the experiences recorded here from those who have been seriously burned by him, but just looking at this aspect, I can only feel compassion for him. It also shed insight for me on why I felt such a wave of guilt after I first posted here. It was the same feeling I had after my personal consult with him when he shared some things with me, and I felt sorry for him, because it was very clear that he had really suffered in the past. And like any other human being, he just wants to be loved, and healed of his suffering.
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: You mention triggers, but which are a normal thing in any human being. It is the result of mind conditioning, which what happens when we grow up, go through experiences, and add value to repeating experiences. The pioneer of this was Abraham Maslow with his classical conditioning experiments involving dogs. Advertisement and the media make full advantage of this to try and stir public opinion or our consumption behavior. To an extend, this is what can be described as general mind programming, but really it is just conditioning. It is however, a life-saving ability of the mind. Without it, we would not learn from experiences and continue, for example, eating poisonous berries all the time.
Yes, this is true, but it IS a reality that the Elite, including government and private institutions, use the knowledge of this mechanism and study it further for social behavioural control. I am thinking of places like the Tavistock Institute, the Rand Corporation, and many others. It is my experience and reality that governments do NOT exist for the well-being of their citizens, but exist as entities in themselves, seeking to parasite off ordinary people to consolidate all the power and wealth in their hands. The global goose-step towards totalitarian social control of the masses is undeniable, as is the increasing evidence of police brutality, whereby police are no longer there to protect the people, but to protect the state. A good article tracing the mechanism of this is here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/hegemony-an...l-control/
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: Stewart and Janet are using this to disillusion their clients, which is what most sects and cults will do, in order to lead their followers to doubt actual reality, and thus into believing the cult reality, which draws them closer to the cult. You can see the absurdity of trying to remove the natural conditioning of the mind using visualizations. It is absolutely pointless in every way.
Is it really? What if using the mind visualizations helps people get through the day, helps them to break out of the despair they may be feeling? Even if it is a placebo effect, is that really a bad thing? Using visualizations and affirmations is not unique to the Swerdlows, countless others have promoted it, including John Kehoe, Wayne Dyer and a whole host of people. Many cults do indeed exploit the harsh reality that governments and society are not designed for the benefit of people, and having worked in government myself, I know how one is prevented from solving problems to the benefit of the people, and social services never seem to be able to really address any problems. Cults can easily exploit this, and I contend that the reason cults are so effective is because of the failures of society and social structures such as governments, social services, education, and so on.
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: This is dramatic however when people with serious issues come to these cults, only to be told to do visualizations, or affirmations, or sexual deprogramming, or whatever. These are solutions which do not work to problems which do not exist, as we have discussed in previous posts. People with serious issues require professional help specifically directed at whatever the problem is. You will not treat cancer through visualization, but what you are doing instead is to wait for medical treatment up to a point where it may be too late. I have observed them, and Janet in particular, doing all they can to sell their products, which has so far, to my knowledge, not helped anyone with a specific problem, even less so when that problem was a serious one. It is a pity that US laws are so flawed when it comes to cults/sects, as Expansions surely would be very difficult to continue to operate this way in most other countries.
Yes, I agree with this. And US laws protect cults under the guise of "religious freedom", so cults are free to abuse people as much as they please, and the law protects them. Recent case in point: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25...00633.html
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: You also mention his false predictions, or association fallacies as I called them. Well, I have taken the piss out of him on numerous occasions about this one - just check the expansions.com threads. It brings me back to the previous point made. A traumatized mind, someone who believes in his own fairy tales more than actual facts and reality, cannot make objective predictions. Hence most of what he foretells is completely random. They are mind farts. A good example is the staged alien invasion, which he has been talking about for ages, and which he predicted would happen in 1999, 2000, 2001, etc. It still hasn't happened. What this is about is that he is aware governments were planning a staged alien invasion ever since the 1960s. There exist secret documents about this. The idea is to create an outside threat which forces mankind into peace (and into ending the cold war, incidentally). As it happens the cold war has ended, and most governments today have more pressing problems. This is not really off the table, just not a priority. Stewart, however, hopes to land the biggest coup ever in foretelling the future: if the staged alien invasion were to finally happen, Stewart would be one of the few to have talked about this before it actually happened, drawing attention towards him. It is just marketing. Hence also why they never admit being wrong, as they must seem right no matter what.
Yes, the whole staged alien invasion scenario, and project Bluebeam have been spoken about by others. I am familiar with the writings of Bill Cooper, Fritz Springmeier, and a host of others who have foretold of this possible scenario. My take is that it is one of many possible blueprints, as events unfold, governments usually have a number of possible scenarios to use and apply, and can change plans at the last moment. Agenda 21, the release of a killer virus, an economic crash, martial law - all are possible scenarios to be used, and even insiders cannot predict which, if any of these, will be used to finalize the vision of the Elites, such as Kissinger, Brzezinski, the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, et al. Stewart fails to cite his sources, and the refusal to admit mistakes is a hallmark of all cults. But we can see this in Mega-Corporations and Governments too, who PR spin events rather than be truthful.
(10-08-2012, 03:47 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: People follow cults when they are lacking in reference points in their actual lives, or when these reference points start not making sense, because the consequences may seem to uncomfortable. When facing the facts or a problem is too hard, some are tempted to look for alternatives. Others are just curious and end-up believing in a guru, though again, through lack of reference points.
Yes. It is my view that anyone genuinely seeking to help others would be empowering them to seek only their own truth, and not require them to fit into a pre-packaged worldview. Critical thinking skills are essential for discernment, and anyone genuinely seeking to help others would be encouraging the development of critical thinking skills, as well as researching out all the evidence (as you do in your posts), and forming their own conclusions.


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(10-08-2012, 08:23 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: Well, I suppose there is nothing wrong in principle of using meditation, visualizations, affirmations, etc., to build confidence. Our lives are not lived through meditation, but through action. So, perhaps I am just being pragmatic, but in my opinion if you know the solution to a problem the best way to resolve it is to tackle it head-on. Now, with Stewart and Janet making up problems for their clients (such as being with the wrong partner, such as having various health problems, etc.) you end up worrying about things that didn't really concern you before, and try to resolve these problems through visualizations, etc. I have not met many people so far who have met their future spouses by visualizing them. Neither have I seen anyone getting healed from cancer through affirmations. Nor have I seen anyone becoming a millionaire by using personalized healing archetype cards - this doesn't even work for the Swerdlow's themselves.

So what I was trying to say is that we should when dealing with a cult such as the Expansions Cult relativize and check with the facts and based on which the best way to resolve a problem is usually to just tackle it.

Also, yes I do think that Stewart is a poor bastard, but that gives him absolutely no right to deceive others for sexual and monetary personal benefits. Being a victim does not authorize you to harm others. Never. And considering what he does and did to others, I have no pity for him.

I personally honestly don't know if there really is a conspiracy by a few to harm everyone else. It is true that governments do not exist for the welfare of the nation; all governments exist only to maintain social peace, based on which a common wealth can grow. The function, thus, of any government is power. The more power government has the more easily it can achieve it's goals. All governments know on the other hand that the people can overthrow same at any given moment. You will know for instance how volatile inner peace in South Africa is. It is to the benefit of all, including government officials, if as many of the people as possible are well off, as this in turn leads to more power for the government; reason being that government then has more resources to focus on extending its power; whereas in a crisis government is focused on maintaining its power. The more I think of it and the more I speak to friends who are government officials, including in high places, the more I find that when a large crisis is triggered by a few, it usually is a massive f***-up. This leads me to another element, which is personal interests. We are all looking for our personal interests first, and each group that has some sort of power, is trying to act on behalf of its members in order to increase influence and personal gains deriving thereof. And here, it is hard to find a coordinated effort to conspire against all mankind, which is against the interest of all.

Finally, the problem with the laws in the US is that in case of cults and sects, the doctrine does not attack the cults (freedom of speech), and neither the freedom to choose. In the US, if you prefer to treat your cancer through visualization, it is your choice, and if you die as a result, your responsibility. In most other countries, such cults could be attacked for disillusioning you into believing they have an alternative to modern medicine, which in case you die as a result, will lead to the cult being prosecuted. I am pretty sure that if you checked, you'd find that the laws of Michigan are even more lavish on this than in the rest of the US.
Indeed, visualizations and affirmations all on their own do not make things happen. Action is required. Sometimes, a combination of visualization and action is needed, when action alone keeps failing. Much more to this, but that is it in a nutshell, I find.

And definitely, Stewart's childhood trauma does not give him the right to abuse others in his adulthood. But that is the area where I see society has failed. In an evolved civilization which I envisage, which is based on principles of loving wisdom, caring, treating each person as a precious gift, there would have been help straight away for a young traumatized child. How many serial killers, rapists and pedophiles, how many psychopaths and sociopaths would have been prevented from going on to harm so many others if our society was structured to care for people? Just because our society is not such a society, it is primitive and savage, does not mean it is not possible to have such an evolved society.

I am not going to argue the whole conspiracy versus cock-up accounting for the pathetic mess our world is in, because my view is shaped by my personal experiences, and not solid evidence (dox). I agree that there is no one coordinated conspiracy, but I have seen up close and personal, the evil at the top of our structures. They tend to fight among each other for power, and everyone else is just cannon fodder. We are ruled by psychopaths with weapons far, far darker than you could imagine, but I do not expect you to agree to that, and that is fine. It is just my experience.

I'll answer the part on US law and cults under another post, in response to another question.

Thank you for your views, and I find your common sense, down to earth approach to be very refreshing, and helpful in this dialogue.

- ashanti
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