Hi from South Africa

[Octahedron]

If I remember correctly Stewart said the NWO has Scientology in it's foundation.

How reliable can that be? Stewart says a lot of things, after all... At this point, whenever Stewart says something its almost a guarantee to be bullshit in its purest form.

Plus, Scientology is nowhere near as large outside the US, as it is inside the US, main reason being that most countries limit cults and sects in what they can do or not do, something which somehow does not happen in the US. If Scientology were a foundation of the NWO, then surely Scientology would by now have the same social weight all over the world, wouldn't it? From what I can tell, and this is just my own judgement, Scientology in Europe seems to have a similar weight as Fia Lux or Jehovah Witnesses.

How is it with Rotary and Lion Club ? big in Switzerland etc, I suppose ? they seem to be more Masonic.

http://www.rotary.org/en/Pages/ridefault.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Clubs_International

[Jacaranda]

How is it with Rotary and Lion Club ? big in Switzerland etc, I suppose ? they seem to be more Masonic.

http://www.rotary.org/en/Pages/ridefault.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Clubs_International

They both appear to be more social / philanthropic clubs, which try to give an image of a gentleman's clubs if anything, except they accept anyone with time and money. From what I observe, these aren't cults or sects, but they sell the idea of belonging to something higher than oneself.

[Lenny]

God, I wish I'd read this post back when it was first written. Would of saved myself a lot of trouble and expense. Thanks for bringing such common sense to the table. And by the way, Stewart told me he now estimates about 5% of Americans are specifically mind-controlled, so that's how many people?, must be close to 16 million. There simply aren't enough programers, handlers, resources and underground bases on earth to cater for that number. The entire Gov't budget would have to be spent on MC alone to be feasible.

My own experience has been that MC is much more mundane than that. Sure it exists but it comes through the TV, the cell phone IPad culture, Hollywood ect.

Btw, I tried to send you a PM Jacaranda coz I like your posts and others as well but I'm being blocked still.

Ashanti, I agree with you in that the things they discuss are interesting! Mind control does exist, the US Government has admitted doing it and I know from another government source that underground bases indeed do exist, with a lot of very weird stuff going on there.

I also know now that specific mind control for such a large scale of people that Stewart pretends exists, is not at all possible, due to sheer lack of resources of programming so many people. Stewart claims there are more than 2% of specifically mind-programmed US Citizens around. In 2010, about 4 million babies were born in the United States, so you can expect similar figures for 2011, 2012, etc. If only 2% of these babies will be specifically mind-controlled, this would require the US Government to specifically program 80'000 people, each year. If we assume, based on Stewart's writings, that programming is a continuous intrusion into the victim's life, say for example, you'd be required to be programmed from age 0-20, it would then imply the US Government would be programming about 2 million people regularly. The sheer logistics of this shows the absurdity of Stewart's reasoning. According to the US Department of Justice, there were almost 200'000 cases of rape reported in 2005. My question to you: how often to you read about rape in the paper, and how often do you hear about sexual satanic ritual abuse? Exactly.

I had also asked a medical doctor, who has done some research into the matter, and who has told me that the trauma required for the human mind to fragment, such as a child could experience if being raped, is so huge, that not only would we notice the social impact of having millions of traumatized people, but also, the efforts required, especially for a high number of victims, for this to be done successfully would be tremendous. And, as we know, people talk. Not only would there be a large number of victims sharing their stories; there would be also far more programmers 'whistle-blowing'. I haven't met a great deal of either side. Early mind-programming experiments failed, not least because the victims reported a similar story, and someone in the end connected the dots. It would be very difficult to hide this if done on a scale as large as Stewart claims exists.

Mind control does exist, however, and there are people who have been made victims of such trauma. Sexual rituals do exist, especially amongst the established monetary elite. Satanic rituals do exist, though mostly in form of cults and sects. General mind control exists and is virtually omnipresent, but to a large extend, this is the socialization process, which can be influenced and guided very easily - look at the media, advertisement, political propaganda, prevailing opinions and social dogma, to name a few. It becomes mind programming when these things are turned as weapons against you, to direct your decision-making and actions into a desired direction. We have all witnessed this.

Stewart was once traumatized very severely at age of 8, and I suspect that it was starting since that time that he started to creating his own version of reality and to giving conspiracy theories more value than reality. The subjects he discusses are interesting, no doubt. However, I do invite you to verify everything he says. Look at the facts. You will very quickly see what to believe in what he says and what not.

The second observation is the entire cult / sectarian behaviour at Expansions. You mention their heavy reactions to criticism. Observe how they put themselves and their message above that of others, in fact even push you to believe that whatever others say is not true. This precisely what cults and sects do. An example are the statistics I showed earlier on. These figures are official, I did not make them up. The rest is just maths and common sense. They will argue that official statistics are all made up. Where is the evidence for that? In truth, the government cannot make up information, which others, such as the media or academia, could easily research themselves and you'll find that there are usually several completely independent organizations measuring the same things, and still they find the same results. Ah, but these institutions are all connected through the Illuminati... Again, were is the evidence? Problem is, you cannot show evidence for something that you have made up.

This then leads me to a second observation; how can you treat people for specific mind programming when it extremely unlikely that you have indeed been specifically mind programmed? And if you were specifically mind-programmed, would visualizations and breathing techniques really help you? Say you were a victim of rape (I mention this as an example, in the assumption that most of us can imagine the pain and trauma this would cause more easily, given it is portrayed in the media), would you really start breathing differently and visualizing altars and what have you, to get over your trauma? Exactly. You'd need far heavier gear than this... Or take Janet's affirmations. This from a woman who spent time in an asylum! How many people do you know wake up every morning with an affirmation for the day? Exactly. Nothing against a positive mindset, but affirmations to remember events that never happened or to lose weight? Come on...

Based on my own research, the evidence which I have seen, or been shown, I can tell you that Expansions is a cult, with aspirations to becoming a full blown sect. You know, Stewart wanted me to help him build an Expansions Camp in Namibia! Think of Stewart as their leader, and everybody having to follow weird rules of behavior, including to 'sexually deprogramming each other'. One thing I know is that wisdom is universal, and I certainly do not need a guru to tell me what is right or wrong.

Yes, a lot of the information and things they discuss is very interesting, but I invite you to do your own research. There are statistics everywhere and about almost anything, all easily available to anyone. If a phenomenon really exists, there are usually more than one source to talk about it. There are thousands of stories from people who have witnessed ghosts and / or UFO's to make it impossible to rule out the possibility that these things are real. There is only Stewart and Janet out there claiming that archetypes will heal you from specific mind-programming.

The second thing I would invite you to do, while you still examine his writings, is to relativize, to put things in perspective. Take his book 13-Cubed for instance. How many people do you think are likely to be programmed as Presidential model? Even if that were true, it would hardly be more than a very small number. Yet, he presents this as if it were a common thing. How many people do you have living in your neighborhood looking like Bill Clinton, or George Bush, or Jacob Zuma? The only people I know that needed doubles were Michael Jackson and Adolf Hitler...

Finally, there are so many contradictions in what they say that it becomes impossible to believe in anything they say, once you have realized it. Notice they don't just share information and let you deal with it, like wikipedia does for instance, but insist they are right, everybody else is wrong, and f*** you if you dare criticize! If you know you're right, you don't need to force your opinion onto others. So why do they do it?

Here, in a nutshell, you have my take on the Expansions Cult.

[Elizabeth]

Hi Lenny. If you spend a little time looking at these two links, especially at the bottom one, you'll see how easy it is with technology to control the population and target specific individuals. Reading the whistle blower info. on the bottom makes SS's numbers seem tame. As awful as this material is to contemplate, underestimating and minimizing the truth of what is occuring only strengthens it.

http://www.dataasylum.com/gangstalking-t...ation.html

http://www.freedomfchs.com/thematrixdeciph.pdf

[Lenny]

Hi Lenny. If you spend a little time looking at these two links, especially at the bottom one, you'll see how easy it is with technology to control the population and target specific individuals. Reading the whistle blower info. on the bottom makes SS's numbers seem tame. As awful as this material is to contemplate, underestimating and minimizing the truth of what is occuring only strengthens it.

http://www.dataasylum.com/gangstalking-t...ation.html

http://www.freedomfchs.com/thematrixdeciph.pdf

Thanks Elizabeth I'll look into this.

[Elizabeth]

Go easy with it, it's VERY disturbing. (As they say, ignorance is bliss).