If People Fail

[PurpleParrot]

Monica, I appreciate your thoughts!! It seems to be a balance or set the mode for directing more discussion on this topic.I have a lot to say regarding materialism but I don't know how to state it.

I'm going to ramble here a bit...

I can draw from so many examples..of where extreme materialism may have been experienced positively...and in cases where it was not....as in it affected the persons in possession of these things in a negative way...

I can also tell you that I have known people who had it all but chose to live simply...of people who don't have much but managed to be happy...or even ones who had a similar background but weren't happy...

i have often grown up with people who were jealous of me(but..i dont know if i was really jealous of them and what for?) or of each other for some reason or another..and i felt it was pointless because someone didn't have enough of this item or that type of item....and i often found it was stupid or silly..i still see lots of people competing with each other for what i perceive is stupid too because material items can be gone just as easily. one example is..whose child can do the most...and so on and so forth. i have often questioned wealth....no one seems to be satisfied by it...they're always wanting more. i'm not any better than the people i criticize. there were times where i went shopping and something kicked in within me where i had to purchase more of that item(because I felt I wasn't satisfied with just one thing) because of fear of maybe not being recognized(jewelry/clothing..though i have dressed simply in the past. still sometimes I like dressing up to impress others or make myself feel better) or not having enough of that experience(in regards to music/dvds). if i didn't have enough of it,then I would fear something would happen(where it would get damaged or misplaced or I wouldn't be able to recover it),etc. also there were times where i competed and i really desired to be "Better" than the other. This was because there were others better than me and I wanted to stand out. Sometimes I still compete even if its an activity that i enjoy. one day i just want to do it for pure enjoyment and personal growth ---not to be better than the next person.

it just seems people unfortunately bash the other...i'm seeing this in my own biological family aside from family members I have known along the years--especially the ones(family members) living in the US. most of my affluent family members in the US or in India often compete with each other. they manipulate the other through advice. its hard to trust certain family members these days and the sad thing is that some of them don't trust my family either over things we suggest to one another. we can barely confide in the other. they perceive us as a potential threat though they're financially better off than we are. though their children are in reputable grad schools/careers,they have often discouraged our family from doing certain things over the years(which if we had not listened to them, we would not have felt hindered in our lives but we learn). we were often feeling guilty if we had something in our possession or if we did something. they seemed to show disapproval. now i know that i need to enjoy and not feel guilty about things. we can't please everyone but its good to be considerate of the other. these people are not bad. its just that we had to go through this experience to learn to know who to listen to in regards to what can be trusted: ourselves,oversoul, intuition, our feelings, thoughts and not anyone else. I mean we shouldn't wear earplugs while they're talking lol..maybe what they say is for a reason. nothing seems to be accidental.  if we believe in something then stick with it and don't let anyone else get in the way of what you believe in or really want/need..feel is right.

i have learned also..to not worry about what others think or say in regards to waht you do...its their problem..not yours...so be yourself freely...whatever that would mean.

There is a song about people breaking whats hindering them back from really loving the other or being with each other openly....at least thats what I believe its about....

All of these experiences have caused me to seek "family"(over the years) in whomever I find that I feel I can trust. I think I seek this, because maybe I felt that I didn't really have a biological sister or other family members(aside from parents and brother who are good people but maybe not like minded or in the way i'd like them to be..which means i need to be accepting of them) that I can lean on who would accept me for me(haha unshowered or not..j/k) without applying pressures or showing criticisms.I know it leaves me vulnerable in some ways but at least it leaves me open to finding other people in this world..more new people..more new experiences...new mind patterns to explore..and so on.

there's something i wanted to add to that but it just passed me by lol. i'll remember later.

so theres my two cents. lol

i think this forum is collecting lots of pennies lol.

[Monica]

Hi DT

I agree with you.  Because, naturally, all experience comes from mind-pattern.

What I am trying to say is that money is a representation of this.  It doesn't stop anyone from getting what they need in other ways.  All experience is valid.  However, money as a tool is a fantastic method for directin your life experiences.

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I'm not negating any of the other statements on money, because I actually agree with them (for the most part anyway).  But, the nature of money energy is also highly misunderstood in the general world.

I get people asking me when I'm going to 'make money' from my music, despite the fact I know I am at the best point now, for my needs, in my development, working quietly.

Finances don't neccessarily create an experience, but they can enable them greatly.  You have to observe the Illuminati to see how they manage money as part of their agenda.  They know how to make this tool work for their means and desires.  There's always many opinions on any subject, and all contribute to a whole.  Underneath them is a single truth. Money is what it is, and that is all it needs to be.  To know what it is, you have to communicate with it as an intelligent energy stream.

[PurpleParrot]

Interesting point! :o) thanks

[Mercy Now]

I've been around money ,LOTS OF MONEY, all of my life and once again it was the norm so I thought everybody had this experience. I have to clarify and say that though I was around it ,shoulder to shoulder,my parents  never had much at all. The funny thing is people we didn't know ,thought we were" moneyed".

From my experience and observations, obtaining money or the the "baubles" it can bring has very little to do with self esteem.Quite the contrary at times.It has alot  to do with "power" and how you wield it around.Of course when you have the money it "empowers" you but again ,in my experience and observations it requires "power" even to obtain it. "Power" comes in many forms.  Most I would never consider using or wielding. I'd much rather be among the meek,thank you.  

I must also say that  I have nothing against money or the people that have it per say. It's only how things and position are used that is disturbing to me.

 

[Mercy Now]

I want all to know that I ,too, appreciate participation here and entertain the input. My nature is such however that I value experience and observation over teachings alone. And yes, I do realize that experience and observation can be subjective.

[Octahedron]

Money allows the exchange of experience.  Your self-worth enables those experiences, because this energy stream represents reciprocation for other energetics - it can be used in a "positive" or "negative" sense, but is ultimately neutral.  I am not saying there are not other forms of abundance out there - generousity of spirit is a great gift.  However, money is a universal flow of vibratory exchange.

Hmm, I do not agree for 100%.

I've witnessed many people who got a lot of money which make them very anxious to loose everything. They got possessed by the "astral" money-"gods"  from Wall Street and/or Organized Crime.

So, the more they have, the less they live. Thus money limits their experiences.

Personally, I also have had a reasonable amount of money (earned and gained, honestly :slywink:); But I lost a big part in wrong investments :X;

The problem with having a lot of money or to much is, it takes a full/fool time job to protect it against criminals and the government tax agencies (which are Illuminati agencies).

Also, if other people know you have much money, many behave like snakes and dishonest friends. The projected reality is very false with money in this case.

Now, I know the best thing to do with money is live in a balanced way;

Enjoy everything of your life, develop yourself with focus, and overall invest in your own Mind-Pattern and Oversoul-connection. :)

[PurpleParrot]

Question guys:

For those of you who have seen the latest american currencies..Have any of you seen the ten dollar bill?? Its greenish of course..with some red markings. I have noticed that some of my friends and myself feel a little angry sometimes about having to pay for something thats around that amount....anyone noticed that?

 

[William]

  Ive noticed some bills look redish...... 

[Monica]

I guess it depends on how you look at money energy.  To me it is a distinct energy stream.  There are also energy streams of fear, jealousy, generousity, misery, happiness etc. but they can exist with or without money, so the money itself does not create them. 

However, it is possible to have a compound mind-pattern where more than one energy stream becomes intertwined, and then people may feel that 'Money' is the causative factor of their pain or joy, their success, or the lack of it, and so on.  The energies may be interrelated for a purpose/lesson, but they're not reliant on each other.  They all go to their own source.

I think I wrote before that money relates to self-esteem, but I really should have said worth.  It places a value on energy exchange.  It is quite possible for people to 'undervalue' or overrate' themselves, but that doesn't change the fundametal nature of this archetypal outpicturing. 

I have also realised that you cannot truly 'create' or 'make' money, in the same way you cannot create or make love, because God-Mind is the sole true creator of all that is.  What you do is align yourself with this energy stream to have/receive/give/experience what it is, and allow God-Mind to know itself.