Kuiper Belt Aliens

[ShadowRunner]

Without proof it seems to me that people who promote the kba want me to believe in them because they say so. That's a dogma. Why should I bother with that?

No one is asking you to believe. Either you believe all the people who have had contact or you don't. I'm just saying you're not going to get the kind of proof you want. There's no proof of time travel and yet you believe, why is that? There's no proof of shape shifting reptilians, why do you believe they exsist?

the only people i personally know who claim they have had contact, are swerdlow and moony, both who in my opinion are frauds, so who else is there?

either way it'll take more then someone claiming 'they had contact' for me to believe.

[ShadowRunner]

"No one is asking you to believe. Either you believe all the people who have had contact or you don't. I'm just saying you're not going to get the kind of proof you want. There's no proof of time travel and yet you believe, why is that? There's no proof of shape shifting reptilians, why do you believe they exsist?"

i dunno rich, i think that's a silly comparison , as i have seen a ton of evidence for time travel and a ton of evidence for reptilian shapeshifters, but yet i have very little, if any, evidence for the KBA

throw me a bone

[Richard]

"No one is asking you to believe. Either you believe all the people who have had contact or you don't. I'm just saying you're not going to get the kind of proof you want. There's no proof of time travel and yet you believe, why is that? There's no proof of shape shifting reptilians, why do you believe they exsist?"

i dunno rich, i think that's a silly comparison , as i have seen a ton of evidence for time travel and a ton of evidence for reptilian shapeshifters, but yet i have very little, if any, evidence for the KBA

throw me a bone

What kind of evidence do you have of time travel and shape shifting? As far as I know all there is, is people claiming to witness it. I'm not saying I don't believe because I'm the type of person that relies on my gut feeling when there's no hard proof and my gut feeling is time travel is possible and there are shape shifters. My gut feeling also says there's something to the KBA. Forget about stew and MC. I've read transcripts of KBA contact long before stew or MC knew of them. Alex Collier is one of them and my gut feeling says he's a honest man. I've also spoken with evdokia about the KBA and I feel she's as honest as they come. She was one of the first people to bring it to stew's attention.

[ShadowRunner]

"No one is asking you to believe. Either you believe all the people who have had contact or you don't. I'm just saying you're not going to get the kind of proof you want. There's no proof of time travel and yet you believe, why is that? There's no proof of shape shifting reptilians, why do you believe they exsist?"

i dunno rich, i think that's a silly comparison , as i have seen a ton of evidence for time travel and a ton of evidence for reptilian shapeshifters, but yet i have very little, if any, evidence for the KBA

throw me a bone

What kind of evidence do you have of time travel and shape shifting? As far as I know all there is, is people claiming to witness it. I'm not saying I don't believe because I'm the type of person that relies on my gut feeling when there's no hard proof and my gut feeling is time travel is possible and there are shape shifters. My gut feeling also says there's something to the KBA. Forget about stew and MC. I've read transcripts of KBA contact long before stew or MC knew of them. Alex Collier is one of them and my gut feeling says he's a honest man. I've also spoken with evdokia about the KBA and I feel she's as honest as they come. She was one of the first people to bring it to stew's attention.

i believe in shapeshifting and time travel this is true, i think most of us either believe this is true or believe this is possible, in this alternative media movement and mindset.

 from my own personal paranormal experiences in this lifetime, and all of the crazy mainstream, alternative, conspiracy, historical and scientific information i have read and witnessed. i think there is enough evidence out there at this point that would let someone conclude that not only is shapeshifting possible, but so is time travel.

i had a out of body experience in 2000, which woke my ass up to alot of crazy interdimensional sh*t (911 happened literally 2 weeks later)

the things you say about the KBA interest me most. things i have never heard about before. i feel like it took me 2 years to get that info out of you.

maybe i said i don't believe in the KBA a few times here or there.

im open to the KBA theory brah, i just want something to work with........

im just so sick of of frauds and scam artists and bs alien theories

[Richard]

im open to the KBA theory brah, i just want something to work with........

im just so sick of of frauds and scam artists and bs alien theories

I can't give you anything to work with. My belief comes info I've heard over the years starting with Reagan setting up the star wars program. He said it was to shoot down missiles before they reached us. I believe the main reason he wanted stars wars was to prevent aliens from coming here. Remember Reagan spoke openly about his belief in aliens and he talked about them being a threat and that all countries need to unite so we could fight them. That's why he wanted the Berlin wall to come down. When the time came he wanted all countries to set aside their differences and work together to fight the aliens.

My belief doesn't endorse anything stew or MC have said about the KBA. People need to separate them from the equation. stew is just trying to make money from his KBA info and most of his info comes from other people. On his own he doesn't know sh*t what's going on with them. MC's info I don't know what to think of. It could be true or half true or 100% BS. The thing that most doubters seem to overlook is stew and MC aren't the only one's who claim they communicated with them. There are quite a few people who have and the way I reason things out is if several people are telling the same story, then there must be some truth to it. If one person tells you they seen a UFO over your house you would tend to doubt the person. If 20 people said they say a UFO over your house you would think there might be some truth to it.

[Sovereign]

Hi Richard,

I know KBA is a hotly debated subject matter which can cause a lot of grief for members trying to discern what is true about this subject and what is not. Stephen Denman is supposed to give a talk on this very subject "The Kuiper Belt Aliens" at some event called the Lightwaves Festival in his home town area in the UK. Since he was the original poster on the KBA and known at one time on this forum as Avatar as well as a poster on other forums under a different names other then Hyperspacecafe.

The talks are scheduled for  Sunday 28th August 2011. 10-4pm in Whitstable Umbrella Centre, Oxford St, Whitstable ,United Kingdom. The price is very cheap 5 euros per person. What would stewart charge 500 dollars or more?

http://www.consciousnessbecomesus.co.uk/lightwaves.html

He is the 10th down in the list.

He recently updated his website with a different theme but no new info that I can see.
http://www.galacticrevelations.co.uk/

Today I sent him my questions and comments of whether he will respond that remains to be seen. I asked him also if he will be willing to load up his talks on the KBA that he is giving at the Lightwaves festival event to his you tube channel.

[Richard]

Thanks for the info. I'm glad to see Stephen advanced with his info by having a website and giving talks about it. I'll have to see if I can get a hold of him. I haven't talked with him in a few years.

[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

Well, if his KBA info is as well researched as his "4th Reich" ...well... "info", then this just further confims my suspicion that the kba are a hoax.

http://www.galacticrevelations.co.uk/art...ngdom.html

He makes money with this (presuming somebody buys the book).

[Richard]

Well, if his KBA info is as well researched as his "4th Reich" ...well... "info", then this just further confims my suspicion that the kba are a hoax.

Are you trying to say if a person is wrong about one thing that means they are wrong about everything? You're trying to make it sound like the KBA is a mass conspiracy, that all the people who have contacted the KBA are all perpetrating a hoax.

[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

No, I am not saying that if a person is wrong about one thing he is wrong about everything. But there is neither offered proof for the 4th Reich nor for the kba.

The kba is not a mass conspiracy as only a few dudes are promoting it. I have experienced a few of these people who are promoting it and don't find them to be trustworthy.

Well, if his KBA info is as well researched as his "4th Reich" ...well... "info", then this just further confims my suspicion that the kba are a hoax.

Are you trying to say if a person is wrong about one thing that means they are wrong about everything? You're trying to make it sound like the KBA is a mass conspiracy, that all the people who have contacted the KBA are all perpetrating a hoax.