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No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval
#31
I love it that everyone on this forum is so smart, yes it is programming and the mind-pattern; obesity is difficult for the individual and for the physical body to function. Gertrudarose, if you are happy, good on you and none of us can tell you that you should not be happy, but if you are not happy then you can change it, and it must begin with the mind pattern.
One of the reasons why obesity is so wide spread is to create victim mentality and an overall feeling of unworthiness, because at school, work, family and friends will use words as swords, words can be an incredibly damaging weapon. We are also told globally we have a problem, so this issue is becoming part of all of our lives.
Artificial sugar, low fat milk, sugarless soda, low carbs, low fat, low this and that should all be avoided, all these low labeled foods are designed to never let you loose weight, all of the above will kill your metabolic system and it will never function properly.
Being overweight is laced with emotions, some bring in these issues from a past life and others acquire them here and now. Diets never work, because the first three letters of diet is DIE, people eat with guilt, ‘I should not eat that cream cake’ why not? So those words are eaten down with that cake, yes you eat your emotions.
To loose weight you need to eat more, eat at least 5-7 small meals a day to get the metabolic system going, all foods should be eaten, and the foods that are commercialized should be avoided, check the labels, is it food or chemical?
The mind pattern can be trained to not absorb emotions and feel guilty when you want something that is irresistible.
I have known people to loose kilos a week just through doing mind-pattern work, just through letting go of what they are holding on too. Starving the body of food is a band aid to the real issue, food is a source of energy for the physical body, and it is not required to the essence of the soul.
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#32
I think all of these comments are insightful but have to be taken as a whole.

Richard makes a good point about additives. I once did research on MSG, for example. Turns out it comes with various names, is used much in fast foods, and is known to be addictive. Ever known anyone that had to have their fast food fix?

GB - good idea, but thyroid okay.

William, I think what you say is true in some cases, but I don't think that issue applies to the many millions of overweight people. Although it certainly applies to the many with an external locus of control.

Alexandrite, I have never thought about this one. I will see how this may or may not apply to me. (BTW, the wandering topic is likely my fault. I tend to wander around in my thoughts if not checked.)

Astrojewels also makes very helpful comments. I have noticed that I always lose weight if I eat what I want, when I want, and nothing but what I want. I think our bodies know what they need. (This is not to say I eat doughnuts. I mean that if I really just want strawberries for dinner, then that's what I should have.)

There was one study (I have to confess I don't remember where from) that showed consumers of diet soda are much more likely to be overweight. I think it very strange that the entire world is getting fat when we supposedly can produce so much high-quality food!
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#33
  I dont mind wondering threads.  I was kinda hoping others would jump in on the obesity thoughts and add more to what I wrote.  I was trying to come up with possible mind patterns and wanted to know others.   But if there was a no jobs for being fat then more then half of USA would not be working! So its kinda on topic! :drool:
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#34
Astrojewels Wrote:I am also amazed at this list, this is dictatorship! What happens if you get the certificate and then become fat? Do they take it off you?
Octahedron, do you have an obesity problem in Europe, we do here in Australia, especially with children.
It looks like they want robotic citizens over there, people that do as they are told, earn wages, pay tax and stay at home.
What does the general population say about this?

the list of me is not kidding.

Esp. the not being fat claim:  this is serious according social insurance developments.

The NAZI claim was an American claim charged on me when first entering the States.
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#35
Octahedron,

I am sure all countries have lists, perhaps we have just not looked at them? The government here has tried to bring in the citizen card for many years with rejection from the public; I think that once every citizen of a country is required to carry a special ID card, it is marshal law because it is not different to be imprisoned.  

The mind patterns for obesity vary, but the global link is that as a population, we are more emotional than ever before in history. Programming is extremely complex and it is not ‘one’ thing, it is the combination of energy that constructs the mind pattern to think and judge. Obesity is no different to any other ailment that has surfaced in our modern world, the belief that if your mother has breast cancer; you are surely to get it too! Why? It is programmed into you that this is fact so you never question. There are some truly amazing doctors but the majority of health professionals can only tell you text book analysis, and who designed the text?

We are overprotecting instead of tackling the issue, society is making excuses for every ailment and if there is no text book label, they invent one to suit your issue. Every person in the world has insecurities about some part of their body; no one is completely contented with the way they look.

The body is a map to your mind-pattern, so any section that is sore, injured or ailing is a reflection of the energy that you have absorbed in a negative way through daily life. It is very simple to understand, but the challenge is do you want to fix it?

Obesity in children is a completely different matter, because that child is a target to bullies, torment and emotional destruction of the mind-pattern and it is the parents who should answer why.   
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#36
Astrojewels, you give a good summary what is really going on.

The list of me is both "official" and "informal" and creating confusion.

I'll explain:

It's clear being a rapist or openly stated being a obsessive porn reader will block any possibility to get a job in Childcare, Healthcare or Education in Europe. The tendency is; it is not offical yet, but it's becoming more monitored and reported because of forced fill-ins of job evaluation forms and personal preferences will be more documented esp. for Government related jobs connected to central databases of the Ministery of Justice and Labour Officials.

for some jobs it's not done to be a smoker (i.e. some special healthcare jobs) , in other cases it will be allowed, but strictly monitored (esp. public jobs).

for some jobs being an Elvis fan can be encouraged by some Social Subsidiarized Art Government programs, while some Christian Organizations will persistently reject it.

The claim of not being fat is hot these days. Insurance companies and Government Social Care Organizations are looking for measures and laws to punish fat people, because they have wrong eating behaviour; i.e. eating meat and snacks will be monitored.

Their argument is:  fat people are costly for healthcare so they have to pay more premiums or have to be punished, or worse: will not have the right for medical care anymore in some circumstances. The real agenda is to control all food supplies and feeding habits.

further: in the Netherlands, doctors are officially allowed to "kill" some people when they are desperately ill and/or old and/or useless, under the law of "Euthanisea" for being cost-effective without the need to consult the family of the patient.

The confusive aspect when talking about "good behaviour" is for example that some Government Programs are promoting sexual undertoned behaviour such as being openly homosexual , or bi-sexual or promoting internet-sites for sexual experiences for the youth, and at the same time supporting conservative organizations who try to stop any sexual stimulated behaviour in society or porn related commerce.

Much more examples can be taken in mind.
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#37
Octahedron,
Your explanation of the ‘whys’ makes your list acceptable and understandable, I do believe that the last 20 years has provided us with way too much freedom and now the price is being paid and boundaries must be set. Many would not agree but it is this freedom that has allowed increase in crime all over the world.
In Australia we have strict guidelines with childcare workers, they have introduced a card that is authenticity that you have been cleared by police, done the correct studies etc. there has been too much trust around our children for way too long. The child protection association here is ridiculous and many children die in their own homes by parents that are supposed to love and nurture them.
I could not see an Elvis fan working for some Christian association, welcoming its members at an event with his greased hair, waving his hips around, but that would be funny!
Doctors have always performed euthanasia at hospitals, it is kept hush and people do not want to know about it, but these terminally ill patients are in severe pain, I see this topic as very debatable with many people.
Thanks so much for you explanation it makes the whole concept totally different, do you agree with these laws and boundaries for your people?
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#38
Astrojewels Wrote:Octahedron,......
Quote:Thanks so much for you explanation it makes the whole concept totally different, do you agree with these laws and boundaries for your people?

I don not agree, but I do not participate in any political group.

The tendency is people don't care and are ignorant while not thinking for themselves anymore. They will believe anything the government and "official science" are telling them to do so. 
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#39
Octahedron Wrote:The tendency is people don't care and are ignorant while not thinking for themselves anymore. They will believe anything the government and "official science" are telling them to do so. 
This is my observation of the general public too.
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