Suicide

[beyondinfinity]

[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:

 I've witnessed  a suicide . Back in the late '60's a friend who had been practicing  a particular type of yoga for a long while decided he was going to check out. He had a forced kundalini activation . So one day he just set himself on fire . Just sat there and didn't even so much as flinch it seemed. The papers all said he was protesting the VietNam war but his friends knew different. He was 25.

 

Mercy,

You actually witnessed your friend set himself on fire?  Wow!  That sounds quite traumatic. 

[beyondinfinity]

I am not sure if its because we are talking about this topic but I have noticed on the radio, there is a lot of talk about teen suicide, I know this is the time of the year when it increases, when I was a teen I lost two friends to suicide, what are your thoughts on suicide beyondinfinity- only if you feel like talking about it, I don’t mean to upset you at all.

AJ,

I have just spent a couple days with M*** talking and crying and talking and crying.  I can tell you that suicide is very hard on the people who are left picking up the pieces.  No matter what the spiritual background or belief set, it still triggers painful memories and a spectrum of emotions.  Those who are grieving loose their course in life, as if the rug has been pulled out from under them and the world is spinning.  The old familiar compass doesn't work and the future is a maze of confusion. 

Then the question can be asked, how do people in pain uplift, comfort and support people who are in pain?  While one is triggered, the other is triggered as a string of fireworks go off.

I have always believed that the physical body is a shell or house for the spirit, soul, whatever one cares to call it that piece that is part of ourself that is connected to the source, creator, god, oversoul etc, etc.  The nomenclature  of communication does not matter.  To me it is all about life force, energy and the passage into higher dimensions of awareness. 

I also believe that life is a journey and our physical form on earth is part of that journey and while we journey we have different types of bonds in soul groups or souls we  connect with on a physical plane or travel with in simultaneous existences.  

To me suicide brings up lots of questions...there are the typical religous based connotations of sin and judgment and hell...which to me are all about programming and control.  There are the questions the survivor asks...why didn't I do this?  What if? What if?  What if?  There are the questions regarding one's own mortality.  Then there is an empty pit of hallowed pain that nags and nags and nags like a relentless storm wanting to suck the next person into it's vortex.  Quite frankly, it sucks!!!!

Maybe this is why no one wants to talk about it???

[Mercy Now]

 Suicide of a person close to you seems to feel like an amputation of a major body part.  It does suck!

 

[Tyson]

i think its all about perception. still. but you can never be too sure that, that person is in a better place or in a worser place. iuno. i have nothing to say. you guys are strong

[beyondinfinity]

You have untapped strength Tyson or you wouldn't be here trying to figure it out.

[Tyson]

perhaps.

[Mercy Now]

Mercy,

You actually witnessed your friend set himself on fire?  Wow!  That sounds quite traumatic. 

 I was in the house .I heard alot of shouting screaming etc. and by the time I made my way down to the yard people were attempting to douse the flames. He had poured gasoline all over himself so it was really difficult and too late. My friends were all at least 10 years older than me .I was 16.They were somewhat protective and shielded me from the worst.

Those were tumultuous times to begin with. I grew up fast. 

[Mercy Now]

beyondinfinity,

 I have a pic of my friend that I'll (try to) post for a little while. Somehow it doesn't seem right to keep it posted though. His eyes twinkled when he smiled:) Would you like to see the pic?
  

     

[beyondinfinity]

Mercy Now,

I was considering your post on this issue last night, thinking how horrific of an experience this must have been for you to witness as a young lady. I would like to see the picture, if you are comfortable posting.

[Mercy Now]

 
  As I mentioned they shielded me from the worst.  There were many things that were traumatic in those times.  
  I wish I had a pic of him smiling.