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The Expansions Cult
theeden Wrote:I did think after reading the post that Janet wrote about the Netherlands/Spanish person, that it was Ochtahedron, so yes, she is making people think it is you Ochtahedron.

Maybe this is another one of Janets psychological warfare games that she likes
No, first, it was yukesam who made wrong interpretations and wrong conclusions, then second, Janet made wrong copies in "LOL", and then Janet wrote wrong interpretations/conclusions and then again yukesam made wrong conclusions again and again. :(

Maybe yukesam and Janet should join together to start a new business in writing confusive hoax stories for internet surfers. They both are very talented for this.

Quote:to do in her posts.  Her posts are pretty rife with double talk and I do think she sends messages through her writings to confuse.

 Not to mention the absolute amount of fear mongering she does in her writings to then go on and try to sell you some service.  Its worse than an infomercial.

Just my tuppence.

Confusion everywhere, yes.

Advise for everybody: stay away from internet-stories you don't understand.




The easiest way to break up this place is to create in-fighting and doubt between members. Divide and conquer. They do not have the power to make this site go belly up, but they have the possibility to create doubt and confusion.

People have a strong tendency to react strongly and take things the wrong way or come to wrong conclusions. I do not even care too much about who´s what and when. Focus on what is important, which is to get out the stories and find the truth.

If we are unable to discuss, as adults, and not go down to Janet´s level we´ll progress, doing the latter does not serve anyone here searching for the truth.

shibbator Wrote: Focus on what is important, which is to get out the stories and find the truth.
 

Yes, please.

There are too many people here who know the truth about them. Which is what will keep this forum alive, the more people who tell their experiences will just add to the momentum of the way this forum is going.

(No, that isnt a light at the end of the tunnel J and S.  Its a freight train with truth written all over it)

 

I believe at this point that it is common knowledge that the S's double talk, lie, play one end against the other, create confusing situations, etc. In their eyes, if you keep people guessing and just give them enough to come back, you can sustain yourself off of them for a period of time.



I agree that we should keep the peace here. Lashing out can just turn people away from this place...

Anyways Dr. Acula I find it interesting that they double speak yet Stewart himself said to me "Your double talk does not work on me. I KNOW what you are doing. You had better be careful or you will be in a lot of trouble."

anyways, I was confused and had no idea what he was talking about. I was not double talking anything, perhaps he was seeing his own reflection in me? He has done that before and now my font is stuck in this color hahah

Good point Canyoudigit.
Everybody sees their perfect reflection in the ones they
a) hate
b) backbite about
c) love
d) praise in their absence

So let us keep up with the objectivity in the exposure and hence be of genuine service to all concerned.

I have to agree with Shibbator. What a colossal waste of time and energy, turning against one another, when we could be sharing not only our experiences with the Swerdlows, but what we learnt along the way, whether from something positive or negative that we experienced with them.

We can turn this into a place of sharing, support, and healing rather than a ranting, attacking battleground. The Swerdlows would learn from us instead of laughing at our folly. And people coming here to research Expansions will respect the members' experiences/learnings, something they won't do if they are met with all this verbal sparring.

There can always be a learning and growing, if we allow it. We need to feel safe sharing experiences/feelings without fear of being attacked, or the profound healing that that is imminently possible may just remain an open wound longer than it need be.

Just my two cents.

knmar Wrote:I have to agree with Shibbator. What a colossal waste of time and energy, turning against one another, when we could be sharing not only our experiences with the Swerdlows, but what we learnt along the way, whether from something positive or negative that we experienced with them.

We can turn this into a place of sharing, support, and healing rather than a ranting, attacking battleground. The Swerdlows would learn from us instead of laughing at our folly. And people coming here to research Expansions will respect the members' experiences/learnings, something they won't do if they are met with all this verbal sparring.

There can always be a learning and growing, if we allow it. We need to feel safe sharing experiences/feelings without fear of being attacked, or the profound healing that that is imminently possible may just remain an open wound longer than it need be.

Just my two cents.

I think that some people may need to rant as part of the process. If J and S find that amusing then shame on them. I personally do not thnk they are laughing.

If people who post here are still batting for expansions, despite the experiences that they have read here, then what do they expect?

Maybe all of this IS part of the process to begin with.

Even if we have to watch as observers while members hash things out to get to the truth.

 

 

 

knmars two cents = 2 diamond cents :)

Quote:Maybe all of this IS part of the process to begin with.

Even if we have to watch as observers while members hash things out to get to the truth.

Perhaps you are right, theeden. But I must say that it is hard to "watch" this type of battling (not talking about the venting, which absolutely needs to be done).

Thank you for your perceptive input.



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