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The Oversoul-Hyperspace Mastermind Group (aka OMG)
#51
His website sells the same kind of stuff Expansions does. Readings, 'scan(m)s', "this n' that"...been ther, done that, and no thank you very much, but you can bugger off for all I care. He may be 'genuine' but he smells too much of the Swerdlows' "sell, sell, sell, sell" and 'buy, buy, buy'... Come here, leave your moolah with me...it's all good, dude, dudette!

I find it extremely interesting that when you just google 'White Wolf', this shows up:

World of Darkness Wiki
www.white-wolf.com

This is WW's official site: http://www.waysofthewildinstitute.com/about/

This also comes up when typing 'White Wolf medicine':

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2776.0
The last sentence on this page confirms my suspicion that this WW wanna be medicine fella is as much infected by the $$$ bug as the Ss.

Quote:The neat thing is, [color="#ff0000"]exploiters[/color] loooove to talk about themselves in all these public connection places
The main website is http://newagefraud.org/ and unmasks so-called 'sham-an' or plastic sham-ans doing the 'native' thing and selling a particular 'brand'.

I wouldn't pay any money to hang out with that bloke.

Found this little 'sit together' with the two biggest BSers on the block on WWs website (I couldn't finish watching because they all sound full of themselves.

[flash=425,344]http://www.youtube.com/v/9I9X_J08YJg&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]

For anyone to actually be completely serious that one would be registered under the name 'White Wolf' on their birth certificate is ludicrous and a 'bs-ing you in your face' right there. I don't buy that. Not if somebody has a German surname.
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#52
xanthas Wrote:His website sells the same kind of stuff Expansions does. Readings, 'scan(m)s', "this n' that"...been ther, done that, and no thank you very much, but you can bugger off for all I care. He may be 'genuine' but he smells too much of the Swerdlows' "sell, sell, sell, sell" and 'buy, buy, buy'... Come here, leave your moolah with me...it's all good, dude, dudette!

I find it extremely interesting that when you just google 'White Wolf', this shows up:

World of Darkness Wiki
http://www.white-wolf.com

This is WW's official site: http://www.waysofthewildinstitute.com/about/

This also comes up when typing 'White Wolf medicine':

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2776.0
The last sentence on this page confirms my suspicion that this WW wanna be medicine fella is as much infected by the $$$ bug as the Ss.

Quote:The neat thing is, exploiters loooove to talk about themselves in all these public connection places
The main website is http://newagefraud.org/ and unmasks so-called 'sham-an' or plastic sham-ans doing the 'native' thing and selling a particular 'brand'.

I wouldn't pay any money to hang out with that bloke.

Found this little 'sit together' with the two biggest BSers on the block on WWs website (I couldn't finish watching because they all sound full of themselves.




For anyone to actually be completely serious that one would be registered under the name 'White Wolf' on their birth certificate is ludicrous and a 'bs-ing you in your face' right there. I don't buy that. Not if somebody has a German surname.

Wow, I thought this site was a little more opened minded and did more research than taking things for public face value. Maybe I'm wrong in that guess. :(

Of course I suppose it's easy to bash someone you never met. The Swerdlow's do it all the time. I was hoping not to find such prejudice here. It looks like I was wrong. :(

I followed the link you gave and found no scans or readings listed anywhere. As far as "sell, sell" goes, the guy has a business where he teaches wilderness survival ways. How does one run a business and not sell anything? I think he has done a great job in making his own legit business after what he has lived through. Again I guess it's easy to cut someone down that you never met and don't actually know.

I also find it disgusting that you would judge someone by their name!icon_baeh

What do I see when I view this video? I see someone who is being interviewed about themselves and what they do for work. I find it hard to imagine not talking a little about yourself when someone is interviewing you about yourself. I see someone who is proud to be who he is and not trying to hide behind a billboard. I also had to look on Expansions website to find this video because I couldn't find it on White Wolf's site.

I'm highly disappointed!

 

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#53
Dove Wrote:
Eurydice Wrote:
Jacaranda Wrote:
artificialflavors Wrote:looks like that 'white wolf' forest guy is a member
I can confirm that from what Stewart had told me (after I had specifically asked him), that White Wolf is an OMG member.
 
I may be proved wrong; but White Wolf seems to be their latest patsy, ;like many others before him.  I believe that he is sincere.  It will be interesting to see what comes of his partnership with them after the next 2 seminars where he will be featured.

His recently published memoir, Shadow Scorpion of his time as a govt programmed Assassin is a riveting account and much more detailed than anything that Stewart has published. It is worth a read  and IMO-- he seems to be the real thing; and I think Stewart may be taking advantage of him and even may be part of a re-programming ploy to bring him back in.  He was referred to S&J much later in his awakening from his past and at this time he truly believes that they have helped him deal with his deprogramming and have considers them to be dear friends at this point.  And I would bet that OMG is free for him!:D   But I have observed his doubts and if you listen in to the recording of the May OMG teleconference--you can hear it too, as he describes a negative reaction to the suggested visualization for the month; and hear how S just responds with a lot of side-stepping that doesn't make sense and then others pipe in to support S's stewpid rationalizations--group mind control for sure. 

 I would love to reach out to him, but I do not think he is ready  at this point, as he now is invested with a joint business venture for the upcoming months--and we all know how those usually turn out.  I would guess by year's end he will have gone his own way--Let's pray!

I also think that Janet is hugely attracted to him; and would like nothing better to use that to get back at S for all his deviations in their marriage.  Dream on J....not if S gets to him first!icon_devil
I knew of his doubts also. He told me during lunch that he had many doubts about many of the subjects SS and J teach. Over the summer we emailed back and forth and told me how frustrated he was with the teleconferences because SS would never directly answer his questions and J would sidetrack or the other members would quickly change the topic.

If you met this guy you would know that a "thing" with Janet would never happen...and forget a homo thing. Old SS would never stand a chance against WW in a physical confrontation- not a chance at all.

Of course I can only say all of this because I met him face to face and spent class time with him for a week in April/May.

BTW his book is amazing and like I said somewhere else- he is genuine and walks and shows what he wrote about i his life. Not like SS who doesn't seem to be able to show anything for what he claims to have done- not even any scars...

Thank you so much for your input Dove. I don't think WW will be back in October. There is a big chance WW might join HCF.

Come Join HCF White Wolf~ 

Janet Don't worry we'll keep him nice and relax without any triggering. ^^*
" It is your own ego that is feeding the expansions secret government project. "
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#54
Dove Wrote:Wow, I thought this site was a little more opened minded and did more research than taking things for public face value. Maybe I'm wrong in that guess. :(
Dove, I'm extremely wary of anyone who is associated with the Ss. This has nothing to do with 'lack' of open-mindedness, but a very, wary attitude towards those that surround themselves with people like the Ss and actively promote them on their website.

I don't trust those that become too cozy with the Ss. It's as simple as that.

Quote:Of course I suppose it's easy to bash someone you never met. The Swerdlow's do it all the time. I was hoping not to find such prejudice here. It looks like I was wrong. :(
Re-read the above. I was very open-minded before I met Stewart. So don't come from that angle, it doesn't work on me.

Quote:I followed the link you gave and found no scans or readings listed anywhere.
Maybe because you don't want to 'see' ?

http://www.waysofthewildinstitute.com/ca...sultation/

Quote:As far as "sell, sell" goes, the guy has a business where he teaches wilderness survival ways. How does one run a business and not sell anything? I think he has done a great job in making his own legit business after what he has lived through. Again I guess it's easy to cut someone down that you never met and don't actually know.
This is irrational and you kow it. It's how he does that makes me suspicious... Fi$hy boy.

Am I supposed to start crying crocodile tears now? I'm not having it. He's doing the same spiel (if in a slightly more 'naturo-path' fashion). You weren't looking properly that's why you couldn't 'find' what I include here.

http://www.waysofthewildinstitute.com/wi...workshops/

Quote:I also find it disgusting that you would judge someone by their name!icon_baeh
You're putting too much weight on it and didn't read what I said:

I'd like you to prove to me that anyone who's worked for 'a branch of the CIA' is actually matter-of-factly registered with a first name of "White Wolf". If it's his pseudo (which this obviously is). I honestly don't care, but don't try and tell me that you get social security card with the name 'White Wolf'. I don't think the US gov't would accept 'White Wolf' as a matter-of-fact first name and then a German family name. Or a bank account. I mean seriously.

It's just ludicrous.

So, how about you just take a deep breath and actually maybe don't overreact when I'm putting forth some hard questions that you don't seem to like solely because you've met and like the guy and you think it's stinking normal that a person would have a passport with 'White Wolf' as his first name? Get real. And stop puking at me for pointing out the obvious here.

Pop a chill pill, eh? Your re-action is way too emotional and OTT.

Quote:What do I see when I view this video? I see someone who is being interviewed about themselves and what they do for work. I find it hard to imagine not talking a little about yourself when someone is interviewing you about yourself. I see someone who is proud to be who he is and not trying to hide behind a billboard. I also had to look on Expansions website to find this video because I couldn't find it on White Wolf's site.

I'm highly disappointed!
Well, don't be. Just listen to the video properly. He clearly talks about him doing  scans and doing hyperspace crap and the rest of it. His energy is not clean. I'm very sensitive (Richard can confirm this)  and I don't like his vibe. It sucks.

And just FYI, I most decidedly would not go on the Expansions site to check out this video. I couldn't be asked. So, it's on his site I found the video, ok?

You're offended because I'm putting forth the pointers I've picked up and because I'm not "floored" by his story. Yes, I actually met some serious mercenaries myself - in case you're wondering, so don't get so carried away trying to defend him or whatever gets you so excited and irritated. I'm not impressed by this chap, that's all I can tell you. It's certainly laudable that he's trying to turn his life around, but hanging out with the Swerdlows is not my idea of turning the corner in a more constructive fashion. Besides, I've seen too many of these so-called smart-asses (and I mean that seriously!) that think they're 'it'. Again, I repeat:

By their association you shall know them.

And instead of blasting me and the whole HCF forum of being 'narrow-minded' after having been received quite nicely and genuinely here, it would be more apt for you to reflect why you seem to have such a thing for this fella. You sound awfully taken by him - your over-reaction speaks volumes.

So, stop and look at why you think I only am bashing him when as a matter of fact I'm picking up vibes and emissions he gives off that don't sit well with me energetically. And don't presume just because you've met him that you're any smarter than me about knowing this guy - including you having read his book (so, whatever that means....Stewart wrote a few books, too, now, did he not?!?)

Speaking of which, you were still under some others' thrall not too long ago, if I may say so and it's the reason you're here. So, relax, and when you've calmed down, maybe have a proper look at this bloke's website. If I wouldn't know better, I'd dare say you have a crush on him.

The wounded soul being so brave! And that makes a woman's heart melt, now does it not?

But something about this guy stinks.

It is not for you to bash the whole forum because I'm pointing out what you obviously don't want to see with this bloke. Don't twist things around here as it fits with your momentary frame of where you are at this moment.

I dare say, you're still "under the influence" and that does not make for detached and level-minded judgement or assessment.
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#55
The reason I may be seeing a bit more than maybe some others here is that I've been had one time too many by people that seem 'sooo good' but end up taking you to the cleaners one way or another. So far WW has done nothing to convince me that he's any better or whatever than the SSs.

And, not trying to prove anything here but I've met a lot of extremely skilled and very unusual people. Which is probably why I'm not easily impressed. There were quite a  few military people or who worked within a similar position.
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#56
FWIW...A bit of friendly advice....take it or leave it.




Just a bit off topic but in general NEVER, EVER, submit the info below and /OR a picture, especially one of just yourself to any newage type healer hypnotist etc.EVER


Full birth name (as found on your original birth certificate)
Full birth date (month, day, year)
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#57
Mercy Now Wrote:NEVER, EVER, submit the info below and /OR a picture, especially one of just yourself to any newage type healer hypnotist etc.EVER

Full birth name (as found on your original birth certificate)
Full birth date (month, day, year)
You see MN, that link is what made me suspicious. It just does not sit well with me...too much like the SSs....
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#58
Wow what an explosion of energy here! I'm just a side viewer so please nobody bite my head off.
Just a few things I've observed for the little that it's worth:
1- Dove seems to like this guy WW and that is her choice. She met him and we haven't.
2- Xanthas gets an odd feeling and that's her choice.
3- Both of you are entitled to your own choices or feelings.
4- I agree that being connected to the Swerdlow's is probably not the best thing, but it seems that many on this forum have been at one time. Each has to learn for themselves and I think everyone deserves a fair chance at making their own decision in the matter. How many here were involved with them and truly believed in them for a time?? I vote for giving this guy a chance and see what happens. He seems rather new there with them.
5- I surfed through this guys site and found no scan stuff. Of course I'm getting old and my eyes aren't what they used to be.
6- I did find many places on his site that says he does not claim to be a shaman or stuff like that. No I'm not defending or attacking him- just stating the facts that I've found.
7- I looked at his class schedule and didn't even see his plans to teach in Michigan.
7- HERE'S THE BIG ONE- I have some extra cash and see that this WW is holding an interesting class that I think I want to take. For everyone here I am going to go take this class- see this guy myself in person and ask him questions. I think I'm even going to ask him to see his drivers license and passport if he has one. What the heck, the worse he can do is tell me, "No, you can't see them."
So what do you all think about that? I'll play a spy, like James Bond or something crazy.
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#59
[user=1307]xanthas[/user] wrote:
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Mercy Now Wrote:NEVER, EVER, submit the info below and /OR a picture, especially one of just yourself to any newage type healer hypnotist etc.EVER

Full birth name (as found on your original birth certificate)
Full birth date (month, day, year)
You see MN, that link is what made me suspicious. It just does not sit well with me...too much like the SSs....

icon_yes

Now you see it ..Now you don't.:D
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#60
[user=1725]JPM-Silver[/user] wrote:
Quote: 5- I surfed through this guys site and found no scan stuff. Of course I'm getting old and my eyes aren't what they used to be.

Naaa ..It's not your eyes. It was taken down almost immediately after xanthas posted the link. Funny that.


I saw it and posted a portion of it.
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