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or... he's pulling our leg so as to draw attention to get more book sales!
If they were really what they say they are don't you think they would have accidentally died? I don't think either had anything to do with CIA blah blah...
The first thing to look for when trying to determine if someone is full of crap: Does it cost anything
Ted Gunderson, Alex Jones, Alan Watt and the rest of them are full of crap. They want your money or your obedience. Alan Watt is simply crazy.
I wish it wasn't this way and I could believe them.
I would spend my time figuring how you're going to survive ... retirement for anyone 40 or older.
Get on with it.
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Is their anyone, three4, you would say is credible? If so, why?
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I'm a bit lagging behind here but I've had my suspicion about the real agenda behind Cathy O'Brien for quite a while (since Sept '05) - notably because someone was pointing out the flaws in the whole story, someone who'd been used himself in the 60s under the umbrella of MK-Ultra.
Arizona Wilder, as far as I've known has been found out to be a fraud (i.e., making up the stories about seeing Queen E shift into a reptilian).
The whole publicity around Cathy O'Brien made it suspicious, too - too obvious really to not be taken with a huge grain of salt... Something felt very off...
I find the name of the victim (Janus) here particularly interesting because 'Janus' is the Roman name of the two-faced God from which the month January derives its name.
Janus is referred to as the symbolic representation of the planet Saturn - the 'keeper of the gates' ("The Lord of the Rings" - Saturn being the planet with the rings - incidentally was written by a Capricorn as well), the one giving access to passing the "threshold". Since it's also directly indicative of the "past" & the "future" (one part of the face looking back over the past & another part looking into the future there's another symbolic significance to her name as it relates to the whole story...
Saturn is the stern taskmaster that will prohibit the "passing of the threshold" unless the specific stage of learning has been completed properly. It is often a very difficult, hard & arduous process - a steep learning curve before 'access' to the next step toward growth is granted.
The first attempts by her to free herself came shortly after her first Saturn return at age 29 - Saturn which, on another psychological level represents the 'inner father' figure - in this case her internalised 'father' dominating her through various other older men abusing their authority over her in conjunction with the time when most MC victims' programming at around age 30 begins to "loosen up" 'around the edges'.
I feel that David Icke, certainly in his early days was too ready to give anyone who looked like the 'real thing' too easily credit because he was, as one would say "on a mission" - driven to get the word out & taking up people that he most likely wouldn't talk to today now that he has acquired quite some more experience - which is why I feel he gave Mark Phillips & Cathy O'Brien too much space in his work...
At the time when Icke was beginning to become a 'known laugh' (i.e., 'crazy nutter') I was living in London, UK & he was labelled 'completely off his rocker' or just plain weird. I feel that was maybe one of the main reasons he took on an 'anything that goes' approach (metaphorically speaking) towards the whole subject.
It seems to me in my limited sphere of knowledge, that Brice Taylor is closer to the real story, although with people as deeply programmed as those who've come out, there are & there always will remain areas that will remain (literally!) in the dark..
Alex Jones is a reknowned Zionist puppet. And David...well....:?
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This is exactly what they want from people.Not knowing how to discern the truth.Not everyone dies who comes out with something.The Rosicrucians and the Theosophical Society have nothing to do with the New Age scene.Rosicrucians go way back to Egypt.Yes,Queen E does shift.Phillips is not alltogether "clean" but Cathy's story is real and so is Taylor's.Sprinmeier,is a programmer,and that's not his real last name.Janus/Alex is a program.There's one for the females and one for the males.
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HI MC,
No, I wouldn't expect that everyone saying the truth is necessarily going to be just another 'casualty of programming'.
Neither did I insist that Cathy's story is nothing but lies. I do believe that she has been severly abused in the whole "programming scheme of things". I also believe that Bryce is telling the truth.
Springmeier is pretty obvious IMHO... If one digs a bit deeper it's quite open to see if one has an idea about the various programming approaches (I'd be the last to say I'm an expert...:shock:)
Uh, I'm not exactly sure I understand what you mean with Alex being a programme (I did understand the Janus explanation. I absolutely am convinced that Alex Jones is programmed, but your reply seems to refer to 'Alex' as a programming method, too (the male programming module, if I understand you correctly).
Just wanted to clarify, that's all.
I am aware too that the Rosicrucians have a very old metaphysical tradition. As far as I know Blavatsky was the founder of & Alice Bailey an important member of the Theosophical Society.
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Yes,Alex/Janus is a program.One is for females and the other for males.
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Good thread, I was reading ex-MI6 James Casbolt's book last week. Casbolt is the first non-New Ager to attest to Billy Meier's legitimacy. Billy Meier is the first Pleidian UFO Contactee who was vociferously opposed by the establishment. 90% of New Age UFO material is lifted from Billy, in fact Star Trek's themes were also lifted from him and best of all, his debunkers forgot that he was one armed :)
MC is right, not every truth teller will be killed, nor is every occult teacher an illuminati slave nor is every illuminati connected person hell bent on destroying the world by blood sacrifice. Just as illuminati insiders infiltrate good organizations, good souls walk into Illuminati vessels to throw a wrench in their works.
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Casbolt was exposed as a hoaxster a few years ago. Of course one might say he was in an alter.
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Totally possible, there is no way he could have deprogrammed so fast.
But I am very happy that in any state, James inner Self had the courage to give due credit to Billy Meier, the most authentic and most copied source of any UFOlogy material.
I think Casbolt was also the first to inform about Chimeras drawing energy by inspiring group suicides of Wales. Now we see such events in Foxconn of Taiwan etc. Not bad for an exposed hoaxster, considering none of the celebrity New Age sources have come anywhere close to giving useful info.
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I'm not into celebrity .. period. New Age or no. Casbolt was not the first to inform about Chimeras drawing energy. He lifted his material much like the others.
I saw elsewhere on the forum you were posting amagrams ....
anagram of James Casbolt
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