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**Richard** · 10-09-2010, 02:55 PM

I don't know who lied to me. Maybe it was the Illuminati. Even Stew has said people are deceived into coming here. People are also deceived into going to the white light instead of the golden yellow. Gathering info from the Swerdlows, Karen, and Patty one of my previous lives was a Viking and Stew cut my head off. I wondered as a ghost for awhile and met 2 other ghosts who somehow convinced me to come back here. I don't know what they said but as much as I hate this reality I imagine they deceived me into coming back here.

***Sekhmet*** · 10-09-2010, 05:14 PM

You seem to think that the Illuminati are stronger than God-mind. And that's exactly the kind of Luciferian consciousness that keeps you trapped here.

***bernard*** · 10-09-2010, 05:48 PM

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

Quote:I don't know who lied to me. Maybe it was the Illuminati. Even Stew has said people are deceived into coming here. People are also deceived into going to the white light instead of the golden yellow. Gathering info from the Swerdlows, Karen, and Patty one of my previous lives was a Viking and Stew cut my head off. I wondered as a ghost for awhile and met 2 other ghosts who somehow convinced me to come back here. I don't know what they said but as much as I hate this reality I imagine they deceived me into coming back here.

I feel you

However ... you need to correct this resentment. You tried once and you fled away .. give it another shot if you really want to come to terms with it Richard. I know you harbor much resentment. Maybe it's time for you to understand WHY ;)

**Richard** · 10-09-2010, 08:03 PM

Sekhmet Wrote:You seem to think that the Illuminati are stronger than God-mind. And that's exactly the kind of Luciferian consciousness that keeps you trapped here.

What does God-mind have to do with anything? God-mind lets everything happen. God-mind does not police things. You're here too, are you trapped by the Luciferian consciousness?

**Richard** · 10-09-2010, 08:08 PM

bernard Wrote:I feel you

However ... you need to correct this resentment. You tried once and you fled away .. give it another shot if you really want to come to terms with it Richard. I know you harbor much resentment. Maybe it's time for you to understand WHY ;)

I don't see the need to correct not liking this reality. I don't like sauerkraut either and I don't see the need to correct that. Why should I like this reality? I think there's something wrong with people who do.

***Anu-021413*** · 10-09-2010, 08:35 PM

bernard Wrote:We learned throughout history that the lemurians created human/reptilian hybrids which they were not supposed to do. These hybrids evolved throughout the millenia into todays 13 Illuminati families plus a couple of other hybrid shapeshifter renegade families the other 13 cannot stand. Due to their mindpatterns these hybrids started feeling so mighty that they want not only control of this planet (which they already have), but of the whole galaxy and beyond.
Their weapons ? Well, the biggest and most effective is the mindcontrol of diverse hybrids with human/reptilian/other genetic strains. So their plan to expand, genetically mutate/eradicate, mindcontrol and move on to the next.
Well, in their delusion, they attracted the attention of other mighty and powerfull including some of their own ancestors. The baffling presence in the Kuiper Belt has to do with this.
The key factor is that the hybrids, manipulate not only mind-patterns through mind control, but also timelines, attempting to blend them together for a higher favorable outcome.
I find it highly amusing how everyone is screaming "Show me physical proof" when it comes to alien presence evidence. Well folks, the biggest (literally) piece of evidence is right smack under our nose here in Geneva. just outside the city, lies the monstruous "timegate", the monster portal which is alien technology, built with Earth made parts/materials (and not only... for those "in the know").
The Kuiper Belt group is very diverse, a true electic mix of alien and ET races. They are difficult to scan as they block most. However, some do get through ocassionally and they receive info, of course, the info they are "supposed" to receive.
This conglomerate, it is very smart and is sabotaging the Illuminati plans from inside out. They have their own preprogrammed individuals that have DNA encoded instructions, some of them if not most already part of specific Illuminati mind control projects.
It is a VERY messy and intricate puzzle and NOONE has all th pieces to objectively understand the whole agenda/picture. But the ones who have something to do with this scenario, all have clues that pertain to what they are supposed to do.

So : WHAT is the agenda ?

Hello Bernard, welcome to the forum. You're right, it is very messy, but it will be resolved in time. If you think about it, the Illuminati are doing themselves in via their acts. They are inviting retribution upon them, and in that, they full well know this. Which is why they want to take as many humans with them on their journey to extinction.
That being said, who's keeping them in check? I think they are somewhat keeping themselves in check, so as to not hasten their demise before they accomplish their futile,vain goals. That being consolidation of global power in hopes to defend their rule against those who will take it back. Those who've defeated them in the past,will again, in time, as in times past. It's ironic that they bring this on themselves, but it shows their nature.
Mind control is merely their desire to subvert/eliminate human freewill. If you think about it, it's rather crude and futile in some cases. Effective in others, but I look at it like this. For those who claim to have a right to rule, through their incestous bloodlines, for them to have to resort to such is further proof of how unfit they are to exist.

As far as your take on the hybrids/Nephilim, bloodlines, I have to disagree. They were here before Lemuria, as well as their progenitors. They merely existed and came to power, and corrupted that civilization. as well as many others. Because of this they were destroyed, or at least in larger part. Because of the deeds done, their goals, and the threat they pose, this happened again and again. While the 13 families compete, and they have dislike for the hybrids, and masters, I believe they are united overall. The competition is but a smoke screen to conceal their agenda.
The reason? Survival and existence. If any one were to have a position of absolute power, the result would be the same. However for them, but more for some, the fear of being wiped out is greater.

***Anu-021413*** · 10-09-2010, 08:44 PM

Richard Wrote:
Sekhmet Wrote:You seem to think that the Illuminati are stronger than God-mind. And that's exactly the kind of Luciferian consciousness that keeps you trapped here.
What does God-mind have to do with anything? God-mind lets everything happen. God-mind does not police things. You're here too, are you trapped by the Luciferian consciousness?

Does it? Or is that people choose to do things that result in such? Freewill is a bit*h, consequence is it's sister. Because people have ignored what's not mentioned, lost their way, and yes, because they did the right things, bad things happen. You don't have to tell me about the latter. I can't stand the fact that I cannot act directly now against TPTB. But I know that now isn't the time. But it sounds like you're succombing to the Lucifer mindset. You're stronger than that.

**Richard** · 10-09-2010, 09:14 PM

Anu-021413 Wrote:
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Does it? Or is that people choose to do things that result in such? Freewill is a bit*h, consequence is it's sister. Because people have ignored what's not mentioned, lost their way, and yes, because they did the right things, bad things happen. You don't have to tell me about the latter. I can't stand the fact that I cannot act directly now against TPTB. But I know that now isn't the time. But it sounds like you're succombing to the Lucifer mindset. You're stronger than that.

By not liking something makes it succumbing to Lucifer? Seems like a strange way of thinking to me. So if someone doesn't like Hitler means they are succumbing to Lucifer? Or how about a girl that gets raped by her father on a daily basis and she hates that reality. Does that mean she is succumbing to Lucifer? Instead she's supposed to love it?

***Sekhmet*** · 10-10-2010, 07:45 AM

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

Quote:
Sekhmet Wrote:You seem to think that the Illuminati are stronger than God-mind. And that's exactly the kind of Luciferian consciousness that keeps you trapped here.
What does God-mind have to do with anything? God-mind lets everything happen. God-mind does not police things. You're here too, are you trapped by the Luciferian consciousness?

I am here, but I am not trapped. :) You don't have to like physical reality. You don't have to do anything. But love is the force that keeps all realities moving. Imagine if the ones responsible for them would just turn their backs on everything because they don't like something. Where would we be? You also don't have to like someone raping another person. God, no. But you can be neutral. Because if you hate, you are, there isn't a good word in English here for what I mean, but let's say you're falling into the same type of emotions and mindset that the rapist belongs to. And you are trapping yourself instead of setting yourself free. Hate never led to anything good. It won't lead you into something good either. :)

First thought in God-mind was Christ-consciousness. Oversoul resonates on that frequency - consciousness. You think some measly reptile who learned to control technology that was given to them can overrule that kind of supreme consciousness and lead a soul to be tricked into coming here, without agreement from Oversoul? It's impossible. And that's why I mentioned God-Mind. Therefore, you were not tricked. Because of a simple reason that you cannot be tricked.

***Anu-021413*** · 10-10-2010, 08:20 AM

Richard Wrote:
Anu-021413 Wrote:
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Does it? Or is that people choose to do things that result in such? Freewill is a bit*h, consequence is it's sister. Because people have ignored what's not mentioned, lost their way, and yes, because they did the right things, bad things happen. You don't have to tell me about the latter. I can't stand the fact that I cannot act directly now against TPTB. But I know that now isn't the time. But it sounds like you're succombing to the Lucifer mindset. You're stronger than that.
By not liking something makes it succumbing to Lucifer? Seems like a strange way of thinking to me. So if someone doesn't like Hitler means they are succumbing to Lucifer? Or how about a girl that gets raped by her father on a daily basis and she hates that reality. Does that mean she is succumbing to Lucifer? Instead she's supposed to love it?

No, and you should know that's not what I'm saying. We both know what's really behind your latter example, and we both detest it just the same. However this "New Age," and tainted religious stuff of infinite tolerance,peace and love, DOES say exactly yes to what you ask.

What I'm saying is that by getting into the mindset that GOD isn't doing anything, or would do anything is what Lucifer wants. In otherwords, by the torment,despair,even testing, he inspires some to do. That some who choose that way of living, he meets his goal of total GOD abandonment when people go beyond blaming GOD for whatever's happened. He wants the populace to turn to him to fight a battle that he, and those who choose to serve him, cannot,do not win. This is done each individual at a time, who goes that way. By their own choice and reason via circumstance.
What I just posted above should illustrate two ways Lucifer, and TPTB are going about meeting the goals of GOD abandonment, and pacifying the populace.

Every act of violence,injustice,every drop of blood spilled will be accounted for with pure wrath towards those responsible. That's in part, what the KBA are massing for. The other part is to help those who've not chosen to be on the business end of things, to grow,heal, and live the way GOD intended humanity to live. This part, can only be done once, these cast outs and servants are eliminated.
You know TPTB who serve only Lucifer, are more than concerned about this certainty. Which is why they've sped up their plans. It will happen irregardless, however people have always played a part, at this point, in how bad it's going to be. It IS all connected.

Not liking something is one thing, but going beyond that, towards blame of GOD, instead of who's really responsible, leads to abandonment. Which leads to nothing less than despair,misery, and death unending. This is exactly where Lucifer wants humanity to choose to be, while his servants manage humanity towards his ends. That's my point.

BTW Hitler was the bastard son of a randy Rothschild romp, which makes him Jewish only in name, not faith and practice like the rest. Interesting that the Pres of Iran is also Jewish, and a Mason, who wants to wipe out Israel. My point with this sidebar is that evil is evil. Nothing wrong with not liking that.