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13 Cubed
#1
I just got the book 13 cubed and started reading it. I could not even get through the first chapter without crying uncontrollably. I got to page 32 and had to stop. Has anyone else read this book yet? Going to take a break and go back to reading it.
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#2
Sunshine, this thread was started here:

http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum15/3115.html
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#3
Thanks Polly
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#4
You are welcome, Sunshine.  If you want to keep your thoughts about the book in the Deprogramming section that is fine but thought you might want to read what has already been said so far at this forum about the book.

Reading that kind of material can hit people like a ton of bricks so your reaction at the first 32 pages is not uncommon.
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#5
I read through the first 3 chapters. I think what came up for me was a sense of despair and loneliness like I'll never be able to get out of this mess. I've been thinking lately that I really have nobody to share these thoughts with except for this forum and Stewart and Janet. I have some close friends but I always filter out anything to do with programming and NWO. This is something I need to change. Even my parents who have all met Stewart and Janet and even had Stewart visit my house to do a seminar have rejected the idea of programming and NWO. Hmm in thinking about it my sister has actually shown in interest. I'm supposed to be the tough older brother, I don't know how to share this stuff with her yet.

Thanks Polly and everyone again for all your support. Polly I actually met you before at one the Expansions conferences in 2003. I've experienced your kindness in person so you talking to me now means a lot to me. Thanks.
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#6
Sunshine Wrote:I read through the first 3 chapters. I think what came up for me was a sense of despair and loneliness like I'll never be able to get out of this mess. I've been thinking lately that I really have nobody to share these thoughts with except for this forum and Stewart and Janet.
That's my feeling too, I even didn't have read the 13-cubed book, yet.

[user=693]Sunshine[/user] wrote:
Quote:I have some close friends but I always filter out anything to do with programming and NWO. This is something I need to change. Even my parents who have all met Stewart and Janet and even had Stewart visit my house to do a seminar have rejected the idea of programming and NWO. Hmm in thinking about it my sister has actually shown in interest. I'm supposed to be the tough older brother, I don't know how to share this stuff with her yet.
The idea of programming or NWO is rejected in most cases, but in some cases it is rejected for practical reasons to others, while people know inside there is something wrong, it takes time for them to understand a little bit about the conspiracy.

There is a room between: people can not immediately change their beliefsystem 180 degrees.
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#7
Oh!  So I have met you, Sunshine.  That's good to know.  Send me a PM.  I'd like to see if I remember meeting you.  What you wrote is one of the nicest things anyone has ever said to me so I thank you for that.  I am amazed your parents had Stewart in for a seminar and yet reject the ideas of programming and the NWO still.  It happens, I guess.  Once that door opened for me, I could not go back, though some days I wish I could.  :-)
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#8
Sunshine, you must have some heavy layers of programming for the book to create such a reaction. The main ingredient in specific programming is feeling isolated and alone, that no one shares your thoughts or experiences, that you can not make friends or even acquaintances that share a common ground with your truth. When you begin to really make an impact on who and why you are chosen then people will enter your life that do believe you, trust you and want to be part of your life, you are not alone, we all support you here.

I will be honest in saying I try to avoid these topics but feel that I must. I also received 13th cubed this week, and yes, had to pay, did anyone who participated receive a free copy? Both cliff and I were curious considering a chapter belongs to him. I am up to the last case, so far I have not been triggered and do not expect to either, but I do see inconsistencies, in the analysis of cliff for an example it is stated that he may have been used in the Australian version of Montauk, yet on the reality check Stewart says he remembers him there! However most of the analysis is true and cliff has reached a stage in deprogramming that he does accept this. I also laughed at the clone statement. I think the book was one that needed to be written so that people who are confused or confined can find a stepping stone, the flipside is that the information can also trigger another layer of programming that may not have surfaced so caution is necessary. He is a very intelligent man and savoir to some and will always appreciate the experience. I have not finished the book, but do feel that one chapter should have been written by Stewart and his involvement with all of these people. Because all involved have been incredibly honest and that is what the whole concept is about. While cliff was writing he was bombarded like never before, triggered daily and he nearly did not do it, this book belongs to the strength of each of these wonderful people, the spirit within each to wake up humanity, each that participated demonstrate deprogramming just by their honesty and I commend each and everyone one of them for doing so, and I believe the dedication at the beginning of this book should have been given to these wonderful people with all personal feelings aside, because it would be impossible for it to happen without them experiencing what they did.
I also want to add that I know many of the people in this book personally and they have not stopped their deprogramming as claimed, just chosen other routes to continue that do not include expansions, and all are doing very well.
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[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:
Quote:The idea of programming or NWO is rejected in most cases, but in some cases it is rejected for practical reasons to others, while people know inside there is something wrong, it takes time for them to understand a little bit about the conspiracy.

There is a room between: people can not immediately change their beliefsystem 180 degrees.

My father is a high powered business guy and is involved with a lot of politicians. I know he was even invited to the bohemian grove by some of his business acquaintances but turned it down. I've actually been working proving the existence of the NWO for over 10 years to him even before I knew about expansions. We even had dinner with a CFR memeber who was one of the archectecs of the NAU and I asked him there if the NAU was real and he acknowledged it was. My father after that said the NAU would actually be a good thing, since he thinks it will elevate the status of mexicans which is where my grandfather is from on my dad's side. After that I just gave up and never mentioned it again.

My mother on several occasions has said that she thought Stewart and Janet has messed up my life, she thinks I was much better before I met them. So I stopped talking to my parents about this sort of thing.

Janet has told me multiple times I need to do lots of release work on my father so thats what I'm focusing on now.

The chapter on green star programming was actually inspiring to me yet frightening at the same time. I still haven't finished reading the book but I stayed up way too late last night reading, I didn't want to stop.
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#10
Sunshine, that is interesting about your father and what you have been exposed to in your family.  My current understanding is that there will be 10 Unions on the planet.  So far, we have the EU, the NAU which has been quietly implemented for years, Putin has mentioned the Russian Union recently, the Arabs are talking about a Gulf Union and I don't know yet what the rest will be named.  There would have to be an Asian Union, African Union and a South American Union.  That leaves three more.

I can honestly say, not only when I feel upset and exasperated with myself,  that in my reflective moments, and I may be alone in this, but I liked myself more before I began deprogramming.  :-)  I can't go back though.  I don't make any claims to being a fabulous person now because of the work I have done so far but it was a necessary endeavor and will continue.
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