Beyond Integration: One Multiple's Journey

[Polly]

This is a very interesting book about a woman who was programmed via satanic ritual abuse.  In therapy she found that she could not deprogram a whole lot until after all of her personalities were integrated and the original birth personality was integrated.  The seventh chapter is about deprogramming.

Also, as she integrated personalities she found she was unable to continue to dissociate as a defense mechanism so was in a chronic state of post traumatic stress.  Don't I know that as the truth!

This book validated a lot of my own experiences in trying to heal and it's too bad I did not know some of these truths beforehand because in thinking I had failed, I was actually progressing.

http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Integration...pd_sim_b_3

[xanthas]

Thank you for sharing this Polly.

I couldn't agree more - even if I might not have suffered from DID/MPD the same rings true when one is going through the various processes/stages of recovering & healing from chronic depression...

Often when the feeling, that things were falling apart was the worst, was when I was able to move forward - even if I didn't perceive it as such during the therapy process.

It's as if you'd have to go through the dis-integration process first before you can - with the help of a properly professionally trained therapist - put yourself back together leaving the pieces that are not your own where they belong - behind & in the past.

Bit by bit.

And, I also very much agree that one has to 're-'introduce one's original birth personality back "into the fold" in order to progress & advance properly in one's healing process.

I intuit very much too that [color="#5500ff"]Depression[/color] is often wrongly 'mis-'labelled "programming" when in fact that is just a solid [color="#5500ff"]mis[/color]diagnosis.

Hopefully this link will lift the fog of misperception as to what [color="#5500ff"]Depression[/color], as well as a lot of other often, very serious to lifethreatening conditions, really are.

I've had feedback from someone I sent the link to & they found the link to be very informative & helpful in dissecting what exactly their condition was given that the site contains a wealth of information, self-help as well therapies.

[color="#5500ff"]Misdiagnosis of a serious condition is the first reason people look in all the wrong places for the right kind of help, understanding as well as appropriate therapy. [/color]

The link emphasises on [color="#5500ff"]enhancing one's Quality of Life[/color].

http://www.helpguide.org/

Subsections include of the link include:

[color="#5500ff"]Abuse & Addictions
Anxiety
Bipolar [/color] [color="#5500ff"](severe mood swings)
Depression
Grief & Loss
Stress & Trauma
[/color] [color="#5500ff"]Childhood issues
[/color] [color="#5500ff"]Relationships
Sleep
Eating Disorders
[/color]

[Polly]

I want to add that major depressive disorder can be a mask for other conditions going on with the person.

[xanthas]

I want to add that major depressive disorder can be a mask for other conditions going on with the person.

I agree. I would certainly think that in relation to MPD/DID, depression also plays a major role...

The link above does unfortunately not cover phobias &/or schizophrenia which are major issues in how much it restricts one to be able to lead a 'normal' life.

Again, I also intuit these variations of mental/emotional states can &/or are sub-expressions of programming as well as MPD/DID.

I do however feel it is important to emphasise that all these states can have a multitude of reasons & are not restricted to programming or MPD/DID only.

Sometimes it can be a chemical imbalance, sometimes it can be hereditary (even 'jumping' one generation - i.e., suffering from the same inclinations as a grand parent), or it simply running in the family. Or just a very traumatic (one-time) event in one's life.

[Polly]

Exactly.  Depression is not always masking specific programming but can be.

I'd like to say something about the original birth personality from what I have read.  If this is to be integrated in the cases of MPD, and if it can be, then when it happens it will take over the body and be in the emotional state it was when it went into hiding as a child.  It will take time for the original birth personality to grow up because it never did.  The alter personalities created did all of the interacting with life circumstances.  Therapists often put their clients in the hospital when this integration was going to occur because there you had a young child personality taking over an adult body and lots could happen because of the shock it entailed.

[xanthas]

I'd like to say something about the original birth personality from what I have read.  If this is to be integrated in the cases of MPD, and if it can be, then when it happens it will take over the body and be in the emotional state it was when it went into hiding as a child.  It will take time for the original birth personality to grow up because it never did.  The alter personalities created did all of the interacting with life circumstances.

Jeez, that's beginning to rattle me somewhat because what you describe fits pretty much the process I had to go through myself as well...

Again, with all the therapies I've done in order to feel like myself again (!) the feedback I'd received from my therapists never once mentioned MPD/DID. However, I had the same stumbling blocks & difficulties with re-integrating the original personality at the age I was in when my depression first manifested - and as you rightly say, my original BP never had any chance to "catch up" with my outside life circumstances.

I intuit that the BP goes into hiding in order to protect itself from 'too much' in too short a period of time & that is where the whole disintegration as an 'overall' personality manifests.

[Polly]

Ralph Allison, MD., whom I have mentioned before (I think in my Colin Ross thread) determined via his own extensive and valuable work with multiples that DID and MPD are two separate disorders.  He bucked the system in a lot of ways and paid for it.  

He has extensive material on his website and the emails I exchanged with him were excellent.  The only odd thng is that none of the multiples (hundreds) he treated talked about ritual satanic abuse or programming so he is not too familiar with it even though he was very aware of the controversy surrounding it when people began showing up in therapists' offices and hospitals talking about these matters back in the 1980's (or earlier?).  Still, I found his work to be vital.

http://www.dissociation.com/

You intuited correctly, Xanthas, about the original birth personality having to go into hiding to protect itself from "too much" in too short a period of time.  The person creates the alter personalities to deal with what the original birth personality cannot.  This is a survival mechanism.

 

[Polly]

Something came to mind after I posted the above post.  Ralph Allison, MD., wrote in his book about how these multiples he treated would attack him energetically and drain his energy.  He did become aware of the demonic aspect involved with many of the multiples he treated and found ways for his clients to be rid of these demonic aspects.  He became aware of the spiritual problems his clients had and how to access the spiritual for help.

[xanthas]

[user=160]Polly[/user] wrote:

Ralph Allison, MD., whom I have mentioned before (I think in my Colin Ross thread) determined via his own extensive and valuable work with multiples that DID and MPD are two separate disorders

Oh yes! Very important to separate one from the other... As far as I know (without having consulted your link just yet;)), Multiple Personality Disorder is truly what it says - one is structured into various sub-personalities that can manifest themselves according to a cue or trigger 'given' to the MPD individual, whereas DID is a serious fractuarisation (glass shards come to mind) of an individual's entire personality - there is a true sense of 'being lost' or no longer having a sense of 'Self', a centre that one identifies with as 'I' & can 'return to'.

Ralph Allison, MD., wrote in his book about how these multiples he treated would attack him energetically and drain his energy.  He did become aware of the demonic aspect involved with many of the multiples he treated and found ways for his clients to be rid of these demonic aspects.  He became aware of the spiritual problems his clients had and how to access the spiritual for help.

Again, I feel, that the multiples are more prone to being 'accessible' to the demonic in whichever form & I can totally understand that it drained Allison.

It goes almost without saying (at least according to my logic...:shock:!) that as soon as the demonic aspect 'comes into play' addressing & integrating the spiritual aspect of the individual is almost a prerequisite in order for the healing to even have a chance to occur.

I would also think this in line with linking back into the original birth personality since Spirit is forming a part of the BP before the whole multiples take over the BP literally 'drowning' the individual's Spirit to remain mute.

Talking of which, I understand that Borderline Personality Disorder can but doesn't have to be (exclusively anyway) yet another form of dealing unsuccessfully with trauma & sexual abuse.

[Polly]

Yes, xanthas, to what you wrote about Borderline Personality Disorder, and a person who is a multiple may have one or more personalities which are borderline or have other personality disorders.