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David Icke
Astrojewels wrote: "he ($) was scared of freedom, of not being controlled, he fears it because he has lived it for so many of his life-streams,"
EXACTLY

Xanthas wrote: "It's what I have noticed time & again, whether it was SS, Icke, or Jones - none of them offer any genuine workable & truly common sense solution beyond the "waking up" state ......The bloodshed, the famine, the lack of proper care - no solutions whatsoever to solve these very fundamental issues.... he has nothing to offer to 'replace' something workable that would allow the world population to function outside of that model. ...It's not enough to simply expose the 'agenda'."
BINGO (and this post was in '08)

Mercy now wrote: "To be sure Xanthas Icke isn't the only network agent that refers to the matrix as an "information system" . That catch phrase does seem to be part of the script."
Continual stimulus factors... 'cause we always want the inside scoop.

Strider wrote: ..."silly conspiracies have abounded our rationale for a few centuries. Not to say that conspiracies don't exist mind you, just that we have people in place to avert our attention."
from what? Everything that requires action to "right" anything, that's what.

PurplePebble wrote: "They both really do actually believe they are both Jesus…"

Strider wrote: "Sad that people are being ripped off by this charlatan of the very highest order. Swerdlow is just a cut n thrust con man. The Icke 'project' is a little more complex, however."

Astrojewels wrote: .."sells the idea of creating your reality, yet can't hack his own "creation" or whatever.."

PurplePebble: "I think it is very interesting that David Icke is advertising expansions on his website again."
Major clue

IQhunk: "David Icke cannot be faulted for marketing Expansions..... understand that he has to suffer some like Expansions every now and then because he can only have enough time for a quick face value assessment."
Totally irresponsible, not to mention poor reasoning.

Mercy Now: "Anonymity when exposing truths about known sociopaths and psychopaths is nothing short of WISDOM."
Succinct and to the point

iqhunk: "When you make a false observation about a bad guy, again you lose some karmic credit. You might lose years of penances by writing a false observation against a good Soul without his personal knowledge. ....There has been a consistent effort in the past few weeks in some other forums to attack David Icke and many other truthers."
iq you are simply "busted" for your erroneous perspective and very transparent btw, not to mention blinded by your emotional investment.

Astrojewels: "If s and j want to drag DI down to their level, they have succeeded.
On some level there has been an agreement, a decision and a choice. I take it that DI is aware of HCF and the things that are being exposed here. ....... Spook sponsored Ops. Keep sending em down the rabbit hole iq, your karma will catch up with you. It is good to know where you are coming from at last.
See? lol

PurplePebble's post 195 - there you have it!

Richard: "I don't agree that exposing some conspiracies automatically makes you a good guy. Look at Alex Jones. He's backed by Rothschild and he exposes conspiracies. Look at the swindlows. They're evil and expose conspiracies."


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and I skipped pgs 4-7 of this thread. I really intended to read it ALL.. but, deep sigh...

Some salient points were certainly made: Xanthas summed it up quite nicely.
There is NEVER a solution offered other than "wake up" (Icke) and "save your own ass" (S) w/ my expensive "tools".

It's irresponsible for Icke to bandy up to S & advertise him when he has not sufficient time to investigate the man's work & reputation. And $$ can't talk good about anyone if it doesn't benefit him monetarily. Icke doesn't squarely look at what's going on with himself (me-me-me) because he is so fully caught up in the "circuit" of his "special" mission in life... Jesus complex.... .. All of these so called "whistleblowers" are doing NOTHING to solve the world's problems because they cannot get together in a real way which includes ACTION, acting in concert w/one another to remedy any basic fundamental problem because they can't risk sharing their fame or income. ... they really believe and probably convinced most of us that it's TOO LATE, hence the reason that they can only point out more DRAMA... that's the bottom line isn't it? Everything is so miffed up to do anything about anything... It's all meant to make you feel helpless and hopeless, distracting you from getting involved with anything. There IS no organization or leadership. I don't know about you but we don't need any more EXPOSURE, we're already over saturated with data.

Big deal, so we've turned off the TV but turned on endless conspiracy. The focus here, on this thread AND this forum is to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, STOP the charlatans... by now, people are being raped by these "whistleblowers".... while there are BILLIONS suffering in this world.

Swerdlows are sick people (okay, evil works too), I'm thoroughly convinced and they should be stopped. Icke? He's caught up in a big way and it's more complicated....
The time is way past due to stop perpetuating madness without solution (other than you to "go within" and BE spiritual, whatever the eff that means anymore! How long can you stand in front of hundreds and hundreds of people reaping the radiation of energy and applause given off by the audience without offering any coherent solutions.
Get off your knees and do what???
The message seems to be "go inwards" because the outwards is tooooooo far gone. It's NOT ENOUGH to WAKE UP! It's all seemingly taking you "off world" and disengaged from "on world" even more than you were before you "woke up..... why? because it's too damned late right? Nothing to be done anyway, else he'd be doing it. Sometimes I think $$ takes advantage because he KNOWS people (including himself) are goners anyway. He even tells you up front what mind contrrol is (what he's getting ready to do to you) so when he does, he just laughs all the way to the bank.

and the Rant Goes On...
phewwwww, guess I needed that and I kept this parked all day and still felt like posting it! go figure... waste of time
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Sifter Wrote:It's irresponsible for Icke to bandy up to S & advertise him when he has not sufficient time to investigate the man's work & reputation.
I'm surprised by this too. With Icke's resources he could have found out stew is a con artist before he buddied up with him. This is one thing that makes me question Icke's integrity. Does he know stew is a con artist and doesn't care or did he never look into it?
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Sifter Wrote:Get off your knees and do what???
The message seems to be "go inwards" because the outwards is tooooooo far gone. It's NOT ENOUGH to WAKE UP! It's all seemingly taking you "off world" and disengaged from "on world" even more than you were before you "woke up..... why? because it's too damned late right? Nothing to be done anyway, else he'd be doing it. Sometimes I think $$ takes advantage because he KNOWS people (including himself) are goners anyway. He even tells you up front what mind contrrol is (what he's getting ready to do to you) so when he does, he just laughs all the way to the bank.
expansions is a 1900 number. they know u know all about it. they don't care anymore

expansions' 2011 website *is* humdrum as ever; no cash means that.
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Good post Sifter.

According to orgonite junkies here, David Icke is as evil as S and J. According to Pebbles, David Icke is so evil, he had the audacity to take down her great thread exposing S & J in his own forum, while she has a right to call him full of sh*t and speak about his ancestry behind his back. David has not written sh*t against Pebbles. Truckloads of bad Karma earned by being an angry human being.

If David Icke were evil, he should have destroyed this thread:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=71354

38 pages promoting Orgonite. Kept in his server for free for years.

Stewart is against Orgonite. David Icke is like Stewart. Yet David Icke supports the message of Orgonite and even his mods ban Sebastian, removing the Hyperspace information in Pebbles thread. Orgonite junkies who think David is evil are either liars or Orgonite itself must be a reptoid conspiracy sponsored by NSA using Don Croft and Don Bradley. Choose as you please. Bradley is actually suffering for promoting Orgonite.

David simply does not have time to audit his ads and would certainly not believe unpublished anonymous cowards over someone who shares his views on the reptilian conspiracy.
Will Richard believe Travis Brabb if Travis says Stewart is a good guy?

You want Solutions Sifter after waking up and getting off your knees?
Will you accept solutions given by brilliant Minds ? Or at least attempt the solutions given by common folk like me?

David Icke is a Taurus, they dont do solutions. Cardinal Signs offer solutions. Like you. Like Yukesam or Richard.

Here are some solutions.

Read Aghora 2 and 3 by Robert Svoboda to know how a brilliant Mind ticks.

Master Astrology to know how you are controlled by planetary impulses.

Burn off your bad karmas and raise Kundalini safely to become an Immortal or at least have a better next lifeline.

Learn the Law of Attraction. Learn about your Immortality. Get wealthy through good karmic deeds. Give money away and purify it. Heal the Earth through Grounding Love Visualizations. Heal your past lifelines by releasing the debts and forgiving unconditionally. Release to Higher Self or Oversoul or God directly, the intent is all that matters.

Oh, and do gift some Orgonite too.

And mainly: Think. Introspect. If a physical crystal works in Orgonite, imagine what happens when you visualize Crystals of high frequency colours and charge them through love, the Frequency emanating through billions of Water Crystals released through Hydrolysis in the body after metabolism.

Think. God gave Icke the duty to spread awareness, he has done his duty. He awoke millions to conspiracies. His errors are his errors as well. We do not help ourselves by pointing them out behind his back and judging him. God is the Judge.

It is now your duty to find your own customized solutions and attain your own evolution.
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IQ, you skirt around questions directed at you consistently, so I cannot take any thing you say seriously.

First off, I am not on my knees unlike David Icke would like to have us all think about ourselves.  That sweeping generalization is but one of Ickes many derogatory statements about what he considers to be the general state of humanity....  (along with words like Sheeple)   

I personally do not feel any compassion coming off of him at all, and with such statements and labels that come out of his mouth, it is evident that he lacks this quality.

You appear to put him in the same league as lets say, Mother Theresa, who as far as I know did not refer to her brothers and sisters as "sheeple"....

He may have the gift of tha gab that may "jive" with his target audience, but I dont see him doing any saintly deeds himself.

God did not give Icke his mission,  and you are a fool to think that Icke is some divinely ordained human being that is here to save us from ourselves...how patronizing can you be?  A few months ago you felt the same way about Stewart, and I reckon you still beleive that, I would not be surprised if you were sent here to monitor us and relay whatever is said on this forum. 

I do have to laugh at your calling me evil, it is like those who call Icke a nutter, you have racked up enough bad karma by insinuating that about be, mark my words.

If the holiest of holies David Icke would make himself available on his forum, which he doesn't I would tell him myself.  But like politicians and aliens, he is unavailable for comment.

You are not one of the three wise men IQ, just as Icke is not Jesus.  So keep looking to the answers that you feel are written in the stars.  What I see, is that the writing is on the wall for all charlatans, you might well be on that list yourself.

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iqhunk Wrote:Will Richard believe Travis Brabb if Travis says Stewart is a good guy?
I don't understand your point with this but I did believe Travis until I learned the truth on my own. Travis has known stew for close to 10 years and newbies are naturally going to believe him.
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I think Icke very rarely reads the DI forum.

I think Purple Pebbles thread was taken down by the webmaster and or a mod who is sympathetic to S/J. I think you ,iq, may know these people.

If "truckloads of bad karma are earned by being an angry human being" then it would appear Icke is in for a good ass kicking .

Orgonite works on the etheric level. This is why S/J are against orgonite as their hyperspace stuff work is on the etheric and orgonite counteracts it .

You seem to think in only black and white iq . There are, in fact, many shades of gray in the"conspiracy" mess.Deliberately so.

Bradley suffered before he began promoting orgonite . One reason he suffers is because he connected the deliberate promotion of the New Age movement with covert promotion of Gnosticism.



DB on Icke.......
08/17/2004 01:01:41 am by cbswork(Don Bradley)
At least he was honest, admitted to using Brazilian mind drugs (aberjue Davido, aberjue) to get his matrix revelation, but in the end, its Gnosticism, a lie foisted by none other then that sh*tbird, Count-de SanGermaine, the founder of the Gnostic movement.

And, now, every Icke droid out there is going to buy some shrooms or acid, to see if they can get there, too. You idiot.

That one article did more damage to your otherwise good work than a thousand feds could ever do. Don't you see it? Drugs cannot, nor will ever, provide a way to TRUE SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTMENT. It only leads to possession and IT CLEAVES THE MENTAL BODY, creating huge boulders on the path of Love-Wisdom.

I weep.


08/17/2004 12:56:50 am by cbswork
icke and drugs

David Icke is taking psychoactive drugs and saying this is all an illusion, we are beyond good and evil. What he is saying, if he would do his homework, is Gnosticism.

He had an OBE using mind narcotics...

Sigh...Dave...Dave...using drugs to enter the higher realms ISN'T Higher realms, its just lower astral travel, and by using drugs, you bypassed the correct magnetic lines of force within your soul construct in the brain, like a burglar breaking into a house through the window, INSTEAD OF USING THE KEY AND GOING IN THE FRONT DOOR.

You poor fool. Drugs. And you are pushing this as your MAIN, MUST-READ article.

You just became a sap, a dunsky, and you were played. Drugs can only take you to the astral, the plane of colors and lights. To reach the manasic or atmic levels - ONLY GOD CAN TAKE YOU THERE AND HE WON'T WHILE YOU ARE BUZZING ON SHROOMS, DUDE.



They tried to kill DB too.

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I suggest you research the theme that those that were killed were claiming .There is a common thread to them that got them killed.

I've got more if needed.
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http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.ph...Archetypes

Well, so much for the atrocious lies that David Icke does not allow any criticism of the Swerdlows.

From Soul_Traveller:
"I've got most of his material and DVDs - and used some of his services such as Body and Programming Scans. Some of his info I agree with and some of it I do not. And some of it I get bad vibes from as a warning probably meaning its disinformation. My greatest issue is that a lot of people into his material on his website and through emails I have - they are completely obsessed with Stewart and Janets work, yet they think they are deprogramming, when in reality they are greating another religion for themselves and being followers. "

From member Symbols:
"Same here, I like much of what he talks about, but I can't shake a feeling that something is a little off with him. Not sure what that something is either.
Maybe it is the fact that he went through some pretty serious mind control himself, so how much of what he talks about is a result of manipulation from those days? Has he ever left the Xperiment? "

From Ian2day:
"I tend to stay away from these books as I find that for the most part. They are riddled with NLP and subliminals designed to reactivate programming."

Only Alrick888 is his supporter in the entire community.
[ Yukesam told about him months ago. ]

David's forum even allowed free downloads of his "expensive" material. What a joke that you immature folk complain about his allowing a silly ad of expansions when so many $$$$ were lost for free. David theoretically wrecked Stew's business.

What a bunch of lie factories the David Icke haters are.

All of you owe him an apology but then again, apologies and basic human empathy are impossible for the immature.
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The thread that was removed had undeniable EVIDENCE in it...it was not just speculation or opinion.....

Funny how that thread stayed up there for so long as well, it had about 9000 views.

 How many views did the other thread have and where was it buried on the DI forum?

Now DI wrecked Stews business in your opinion? How so? By adervtising expasnions?

Also please explain what lies I have told.....

(actually dont bother, I forgot you don't/can't answer direct questions)

...your answers only make me think that you more than likely do have something to lose, or that you think this expose is some kind of footstool for your own agenda, and that is why you are being "politically/new agey correct" with your answers...

I think DI owes many people and apology, but I am thinking he would be a lot like S with regards to apologies...isn't that the way it goes with new age gurus? They are beyond reproach, must be the divine forces working through them or something.

Stop projecting your own spiritual immaturity onto people.  You know how that works.

 

 

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iq, karma theory is unreliable, loose, and indistinct. it really sux. but that's ok, krishna fiends LOVE KARMA

 

BTW --- 'I.q. Hunk'? How vain, pompous, and laughable. You have the most hilarious name I've seen on the net since it started 1990-something
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