David Icke

[Richard]

I still believe the hyperspace technique success is based on belief (placebo effect). Like carrying a lucky rabbits foot in your pocket. If you believe it will bring you luck, it will.

However, I don't think the techniques will bring anyone amazing results because look at the swindlows as a example. They are so called experts with the techniques and they are the most messed up people I've ever met.

[Octahedron]

Interesting, MN.

Oh, the friend.

[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:
Why seems it always impossible here to discuss as adults [snip]

Hi, Octahedron. I think you were also asked the same question as iq in that thread. And I think you came in and started another tangent but I could be wrong.

But I don't remember your answering too. You have said before you have had no bad experiences with s/j, and you would have a drink with s if you chose. lol

Oh yes, if I want to. I had no bad experiences in general, but I take the experiences of others here very serious; so I have to make a lot of checks for my own.

You can read at this forum what my thoughts are about s/j. esp. in that long thread about expansions.

So what KIND of experiences have you had in person? Have you had any in person too? For a long time, like yukesam? What did he say, days spent with s?

Other people talk from the experience living amongst them, in Michigan.

How about you? Just asking so all at HCF know the weight of your opinions a little.

You always appear at interesting times.

Why is it impossible to get straight answers from iq or you sometimes?

Oh, I am not so busy at the HCF as it was in the past; I want to give plenty of room to new members;

so sometimes, I pop in and just write somewhat about  the subject of the topic.

In this accidental case I saw iqhunk had no easy discussion in the DI topic, and I considered that as not so fair for a balanced way of discussion in this topic thread.

BTW: PurplePebbles, thanks for your latest comment and explanations.

[Octahedron]

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Edited to add:
It's also quite interesting that out of soooooo many ppl, it's Octahedron, iq (together again) and MC and co that are having such success with the hyperspace techniques. These ppl who have never been close to s/j, may not even have MET them. Surely they haven't been friends with them, in their home as some like ppl getting kicked out of the cult. Just an observation.

A very poor observation.

It's clear you don't know anything about me here;

but I will accept your comment, because I think it is very important you feel free to write everything about s/j, despite you bump against me a little; no problem with that.


I like every discussion about DI or SS; the more comments the better it is. I don't care about any karma if they are attacked; but I do prefer good arguments to support the mentioned assaults if possible, so that helps in getting good insights and viewpoints about DI & SS.

So, yes go ahead with anything to post or discuss about DI; I enjoy reading this forum and I appreciate this forum does attract new members with their written experiences, like you.
 

[wanderer]

I wanted to share a link that I found to the "spirituality Channel" on Ustream.tv which has a unique program titled "Karma buster:get off your karmic wheel....." which I think is appropriate with the exchange of posts here concerning the meaning of Karma. The cost is only 0.99 cents which is really inexpensive compared to what SJ would have charged for their info-mercial product which would easily go for at least $100.

What happens SJ sell and market their spiritually for a high price to impress the buyers that they have access to advanced spiritual knowledge. In reality the same information can be gotten for free by researching the material. Apparently, people assume that if they pay for something it really must be extremely valuable, which is false.

http://www.ustream.tv/spiritualitylive

[Little Dot]

[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:
[/quote]Oh yes, if I want to. I had no bad experiences in general, but I take the experiences of others here very serious; so I have to make a lot of checks for my own.[/quote]



Not from what I have seen.


[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:
[/quote]In this accidental case I saw iqhunk had no easy discussion in the DI topic [/quote]




I know, you have numerous such "accidents". It really is like watching WWF. Tag team.


Thank you for answering. But not answering directly, again. You just cannot say, "No, I have never met them. No, I have not lived among them. No, I was never a friend to them, so, I don't know how they really would treat me if I was close to them."

So, yeah.

Take care.

[Little Dot]

[user=1668]wanderer[/user] wrote:

Apparently, people assume that if they pay for something it really must be extremely valuable, which is false.

Thank you, wanderer.

This is j's direct reasoning for prices so high. She has said it on numerous occasions to many people.

[artificialflavors]

Like carrying a lucky rabbits foot in your pocket. If you believe it will bring you luck, it will.

 

i love those things

[Richard]

When I was a kid I carried one in my pocket all the time. :)

[PurplePebble]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

When I was a kid I carried one in my pocket all the time. :)

I had one too, even though I thought it was messed up to carry a rabbits foot at the time.

And I agree about the placebo effect too.

Red pill, blue pill, S 's pill, DI pill.

It is as if it is all some kind of spiritual roofy.

[iqhunk]

Greetings,

On an objective re-read, I find that I do not like the energy of my posts

in this topic. Genuine Analysis needs a 6th to 7th Chakra perspective, the

energy is leaning towards 4th Chakra [Emotional Support] reaction to 2nd

and 3rd Chakra projection of dislike or even some revulsion of too many members at the same time.
I noticed that There is actually no hatred towards Icke, perhaps some malice towards his alleged ancestry and a genuine dislike of his contoversial theories and even more controversial associations, how much ever ephemeral or illusory.

David Icke has realized his 7th Chakra, and primarily operates from 4th to

7th Chakra in his lectures. When he skips the 6th, disputed topics arise

which he emotionally supports. A 7th Chakra realized Soul does not need

the support of others for his work, his work is his own support and creates its own chain of positive consequences in accordance to Karmic Laws.

Next is the matter of David Icke's Forum, which is mainly in the hands of a select team of moderators. It has been told that David only occassionally reads the forum. It is not wise to condemn or praise him because of the contents of his forum or even the behavior of his moderators because he does not have the time to micromanage.

The efforts of the moderators appear genuine to me because of the policy of non-interference. Evidence has been given that the forum tolerates a wide spectrum of views on everyone, including Icke himself. I have seen threads titled "Why David Icke is wrong". The poster has not been banned.
One man's meat ios another man's poison. The same moderators might appear wicked to others, that is the nature of the internet medium.

I apologize unconditionally to any member here who holds views against David Icke's views if he or she feels disturbed at my unconditional support to David's work and viewpoints. I do not expect any apology for "ganging up" against my personal opinions, for internet behavior is very different from real behavior. I do not think anyone here would ever be rude in person.

PS:
@Purple Pebbles, please feel free to ask any direct question to me on a fresh thread, I will answer honestly to the best of my knowledge. I am very keen to know your exact belief systems or knowledge systems myself, especially on how you discovered that Hyperspace Techniques failed for you and what other techniques worked. I am also offering you a free natal chart snapshot reading, please feel free to PM me the natal data or email me through the address given on my website links.

@LittleDot:
S and J have duped you, commiserations. But that is not an excuse to think negatively of others whom you have not met. Why not choose to be an excellent human being? Why not choose to try unconditional love and acceptance? Do we not accept you all even though you reject Hyperspace stuff?

About Hyperspace Techniques: Placebo or not, they are working consistently for about 45 people right now. With Swerdlow out of the picture, I guess MC, Octahedron and our team has the monopoly on this material. What we have now is about ten times more detailed, and ten times more powerful than all the stuff Marianne may have had or Stewart gave on his books and DVDs. And it is free.

Cheers!