David Icke

[Richard]

David's forum is a reflection of him and it is in his best interest to instruct his admin how to run it like he would like it to be run. From a business perspective it would be very foolish for a business not to have guidelines for their forum. So I suspect David has instructed his admin how to run the forum.

So what do you think the techniques have done for 45 people?

[iqhunk]

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So what do you think the techniques have done for 45 people?
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Universal effect: Nullified Astral Attacks/Psychic
Leeching from Solar Plexus. Far better than with the Violet Tetrahedron + Octahedron Combination.
Since no $$ are charged, it cannot be a case of people wanting to feel something just because they dished out the cash.

About David's Forum:
Yes, David must have given the basic instructions. I personally think it is one of the best forums on the net, should have joined it years ago.

[Little Dot]

[user=974]iqhunk[/user] wrote:

@LittleDot:
S and J have duped you, commiserations. But that is not an excuse to think negatively of others whom you have not met. Why not choose to be an excellent human being? Why not choose to try unconditional love and acceptance? Do we not accept you all even though you reject Hyperspace stuff?

Hello, iq. Thank you for the change in your attitude, it is refreshing but I do not think it's out of self-reflection.

It is quite obvious about you, and Octahedron.

Any person who can think critically, as I did when reading that Exposing Expansions thread, will wonder, hmm. Now why didn't they answer the question.

They gave yukesam a hard time.Other people came forward, it was met with opposition from you both, yet now it is confirmed by your avoidance of the question yet again.

How am I not an excellent human being for honoring Truth and asking nicely?

What does that mean for you, who will not answer?

So, your integrity is called into question now, before all. But I'm sure many saw before, too. But let me state it clearly, what I will conclude from your avoidance:

iq and Octahedron have NEVER spent extended time with sj or David Icke.
iq and Octahedron do not KNOW sj or David Icke.
iq and Octahedron have NEVER been friends with sj or David Icke.
Therefore iq and Octahedron have NO IDEA what sj or David Icke are like behind closed doors or when the proverbial "camera" is off.

And your replies to people trying to share Truth are really perplexing, knowing this now.

Other people posted in the thread who "allegedly" did know sj, spent time with them, etc. And you know what? They sound way more believable than you.

Especially now.

About Hyperspace Techniques: Placebo or not, they are working consistently for about 45 people right now.

For me, I'd be betraying my own judgment to trust you and believe, on your very crippled "word" that these are working for 45 people now.

Kind of akin to believing what we're told about religion, history, etc, etc.

Your credibility has more holes than a screen door, and I mean no malice or negativity. And I completely accept you unconditionally, for what you are.

We have nothing more to discuss and so, we are finished. I thank you for my answers.

Cheers to you as well, mate!

*Edited to include David Icke, silly me! This is a thread about him but it is the same conclusion anyhow.

[Richard]

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So what do you think the techniques have done for 45 people?
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Universal effect: Nullified Astral Attacks/Psychic
Leeching from Solar Plexus. Far better than with the Violet Tetrahedron + Octahedron Combination.
Since no $$ are charged, it cannot be a case of people wanting to feel something just because they dished out the cash.

About David's Forum:
Yes, David must have given the basic instructions. I personally think it is one of the best forums on the net, should have joined it years ago.

Dishing out cash has nothing to do with the placebo effect. You can have expectations for something that's given to you. How do you explain that the techniques only work for a tiny fraction of the people who try them?

If you agree David has given instructions for his forum then you must agree that he's aware that there's censoring going on.

[wanderer]

[user=974]iqhunk[/user] wrote:

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So what do you think the techniques have done for 45 people?
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Universal effect: Nullified Astral Attacks/Psychic
Leeching from Solar Plexus. Far better than with the Violet Tetrahedron + Octahedron Combination.
Since no $$ are charged, it cannot be a case of people wanting to feel something just because they dished out the cash.

I think individuals can only speak for themselves whether a hyperspace exercise has a positive, negative or any effect at all. It is a very subjective evaluation based on the individual's own expectation's in doing the exercise vs the reality it gives. Nullifying astral/psychic attacks with another defensive scheme without charging isn't convincing to me since I'm not allegedly and astrally attacked anyway. It was SS who initially presented the techniques formally to the world, clients, readers by way of Marianne or is it Mary Anne who was the author of the work or copied it from someone else. Again it was SS who gave us his initial expectations in doing the exercises. I haven't seen such dramatic effects in my experience for the past 10 years with Expansion's. However, the mind is a very powerful instrument which can do very spiritual, loving, creative and logical activities without the need for any exercises.

It would also be interesting to poll the 45 individuals to verify what effects they have individually experienced in their hyperspace exercises. In this manner it would be based on facts and not on hearsay and would be very valuable information to share with everyone. Check out "the secret", "power of positive thinking" and others which shows the effective power of the mind to create your reality without the exercises or ritual practices.

Also, the value of spiritual information should not be accentuated by it's monetary value of being either free as you stated or expensive as is the standard practice of sj and expansions.

Thanks IQ

[PurplePebble]

The Power of Love

Tuesday, 07 June 2011 10:45
I don't post this for what the words of the song were written to mean. I have heard all the meaningless platitudes of 'mind' love that turn out to be back-riding and exploitation of another's efforts and passion to make a difference which, staggeringly, still continues on today. 

No. It is for what these words in particular really should mean.

'We're heading for something, somewhere I've never been. Sometimes I am frightened, but I'm ready to learn of the power of love.' 

We live in a world created and sustained by mind with its own delusory version of 'love'. It has 'bodies', men and women, lady and man, you and me. The 'revolution' is not to replace that world of mind with another version of mind. 

It is to replace a world created and sustained by mind with a world created and sustained by heart. Only the heart knows what love really means. Only the heart knows that there are no 'men' and 'women'; 'lady' and 'man'; no 'bodies' and 'voices'; only LOVE. 

Only one Infinite Consciousness that is everything and nothing; everywhere and nowhere; it's here and it's there; it is and it isn't. 

Infinite Love is the only truth - everything else is ILLUUUUUSION.

And it is not to be 'feared'. It to be celebrated. We are going to 'learn' - remember - of the power of love. 

'We're heading for something, somewhere we're never been (we have, but not in our memory) ... we're not frightened ... we're ready to remember of the power of love.' 

- David Icke




If this statement is true, why advertise for S version of god " mind" which has nothing to do with the heart?

Infact S stated that " we are not here to love each other, we are here to clear mind patterns.

( and replace it with S version of god mind)

So which one is it?

If this statement is true, what about S ripping off of Mariannes efforts and exploiting them?


Love bombing much?

[iqhunk]

Dear Wanderer,
I studied Hyperspace Techniques rigorously, and some of them they work very well, some fail totally.
The Vedics used Hyperspace Techniques using Sanskrit Syllables like AUM in Gold Colour and various other symbols with many triangles. Bardon's work on Kabbalah uses a similar pattern. Arabs use Calligraphic Symbols and verbal reps without colour.

The question according to me is not whether any esoteric visualization technique using colours and symbols work, but whether Stewart's techniques, for which he has made enemies out of so many ex-customers, really work. I think barring a few, Stewart's techniques are inappropriate. Not worth the amount he charged. The Brown Merger especially is very dangerous. He uses it, look at him now. 100% proof that the symbols do work, and not as he promises.

You are absolutely correct about the power of the Mind to create a subjective reality. Perhaps all these 45 folk have a strong belief that the techniques work, and hence it clicks for them. Perhaps they have excess Water or Air in their charts that helps them. Perhaps they have done the necessary good karmic acts to deserve success with these techniques. I do not know. There is no objective evidence that Chakras exist. Why do millions of yoga practitioners believe in it and swear that they feel it? There is no objective evidence that any kind of Yoga works. Nor is there any material evidence that a Soul exists.
Thus, each and every belief system or knowledge system could be nothing more than a subjective reality of the individual's brain. I could be seeing blue for that wavelength of light but to your eye it might appear as how green appears to my eyes. Who can ever know? How can anything be proven in this life when to this day we do not even know whether an electron is a particle or wave or a cloud or a wave-function?

What if every good effect in life is a Placebo effect only, governed purely by the strength of our conviction?

In this case, what is wrong if one system generates a better placebo effect percentage than another system for a select group of people for a necessary purpose (like Psychic Shielding) ?

The day we find a better mind power technique than Hyperspace Techniques for Astral Protection, the smart thing to do is chuck out Hyperspace Techniques. But is it smart to chuck out Psychic Protectio and then walk into the waiting arms of a Psychic Vampire each and every day?

David Icke does not use Hyperspace Techniques, and he is doing a great job of staying protected using his Unconditional Love techniques.

Orgonite junkies like Don Croft and Don Bradley are protected with their clever Reich Theory devices.

Hitler and Mengele easily escaped to South America. I do not know what technique they used to perpetually escape brilliant Mossad assassins.

Dr Puharich wrote an excellent scientific treatise and IMHO discovered the real secret of Psychic Powers: The Proton. Whatever that is in actuality, we just label it as Proton :)
Protons + 7.8-8.0 Hz waves could be a protection technique for certain people.

@Little Dot:
"Your credibility has more holes than a screen door, and I mean no malice or negativity."
You are entitled to your false judgments. I am very happy to be outside your Mind Space. When are S & J being evicted from your consciousness? And your subconscious? 90% of your brain could still occupied by them. Enjoy.

[PurplePebble]

DI does not use hyperspace techniques, yet uses "unconditional love" techniques?




What is an unconditional love technique?

Isn't unconditional love a state of being?

I.e. If DI has achieved this state of being, there are no techniques necessary or needed to protect oneself from either astral or psychic attacks.

After all, doesn't unconditional love transcend all of the states of "mind"
and or spiritual concepts that may hold remnants of "illusions" which would involve "needing" to protect oneself?


How can DI put out a post about unconditional love, ( unconditional love) is not fear based, while constantly putting out fear based headline news.

Everything in the headline news underneath the unconditional love post is intellectually fear based. Which is of the mind. Not of unconditional love.

And what is the David Icke iPhone app about LOL.



http://www.back-door.co.uk/AppSupport/index.html

There is an app for that? $ 3.00 to download.

I phone sold separately lol.

GFY.

[Richard]

In this case, what is wrong if one system generates a better placebo effect percentage than another system for a select group of people for a necessary purpose (like Psychic Shielding) ?

If the techniques were regulated by the FDA they would not be approved because they only work for a tiny fraction of people who try them. If they techniques really worked, they would need to work for 51% or more of the people to be approved. There's something wrong with the techniques if they only work for less than 1% of the people who try them.

[artificialflavors]

love is affection/devotion. how the hell DI is using it as an imperial superpower is beyond me