David Icke

[PurplePebble]

iq, karma theory is unreliable, loose, and indistinct. it really sux. but that's ok, krishna fiends LOVE KARMA

 

BTW --- 'I.q. Hunk'? How vain, pompous, and laughable. You have the most hilarious name I've seen on the net since it started 1990-something

Karma is a control mechanism.

 

 

[Little Dot]

[user=1596]PurplePebble[/user] wrote:

(actually dont bother, I forgot you don't/can't answer direct questions)

This is a very valid and curious point from someone who strives to be such a good and fair, enlightened person, burning off truckloads of karma when he can.

You were asked very directly in the Exposing Expansions thread how much time you personally spent with s/j but you never answered.

So, how much time and how long for each time?

We ask because you attempt to speak with such authority, "s this, j doesn't do that, David has no time to read his forum"-- oh yeah, how much time with David, too?

Have you even met any of them? Were you there at the dinner Richard said his friends attended: David and s/j?

Why would your "opinions" then carry so much weight, against people who have shared their own stories of direct experience with the swindlows?

Oh yeah, you have the charts. Fair enough; Astrojewels has shared much information to attest to its insight but you cannot sit afar in your armchair making pronouncements on people without even any human interaction like so many have shared.

So please share.

This is a direct question.

To you, iq.

[Octahedron]

iq, karma theory is unreliable, loose, and indistinct. it really sux. but that's ok, krishna fiends LOVE KARMA

 

BTW --- 'I.q. Hunk'? How vain, pompous, and laughable. You have the most hilarious name I've seen on the net since it started 1990-something

Karma is a control mechanism.

 

 

Oh, why ? and who is the controller in that case ?

[PurplePebble]

iq, karma theory is unreliable, loose, and indistinct. it really sux. but that's ok, krishna fiends LOVE KARMA

 

BTW --- 'I.q. Hunk'? How vain, pompous, and laughable. You have the most hilarious name I've seen on the net since it started 1990-something

Karma is a control mechanism.

 

 

Oh, why ? and who is the controller in that case ?

In this case, IQ is the controller...Because I say this or that (that he doesnt like or agree with)  = the amount of good or bad karma I am generating for myself in his opinion. Look how many times people who beleive in karma use it as a weapon - if you do this or that = bad or good karma for you.

No different from a belief in a "vengeful god" that will be good to you if you do A or smite you if you do B.

 

 Edited to add - How would IQ for instance know whether what I do or am doing is good or bad in the grand scheme of things?  He doesn't, it is easier for him to try and instill fear into me with a threat  of  building up karmic debts than to take a good look at his own beleif system.

[Octahedron]

In this case, IQ is the controller...Because I say this or that (that he doesnt like or agree with)  = the amount of good or bad karma I am generating for myself in his opinion. Look how many times people who beleive in karma use it as a weapon - if you do this or that = bad or good karma for you.

No different from a belief in a "vengeful god" that will be good to you if you do A or smite you if you do B.

I would say in general, God with nature is the mathematical controller in the case of karma, altough I hoped you were just referring to some artificial kind of karma and not to iqhunk.

Maybe iqhunk was just trying to explain some laws of the occult in relation to the posts about DI and SS here; did you feel attacked by his posts about karma ?

I have written many times also about karma at HCF, like karma is not absolute, but it is relative and there is free will, but necessity is also a law. I have an opinion about karma, and iqhunk has an opinion about karma. We sometimes agree, and we sometimes do not agree.

Why seems it always impossible here to discuss as adults about occult laws and the spirit in general ?

i.e. why was that latest post of artificialflavors here allowed ? 

[Mercy Now]

QUOTE (14april2000 @ Oct 17 2010, 03:15 PM)
I created a thread on at the icke board in the The Awakening / What we Can Do section.

With the Titel : Could awakening be used to create a world gov?

Could global awakening be used to by the elite to established there wish for one world goverment?

I believe it`s a huge part of there plans.

It was deleted in less when 10 seconds.
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FYI ... The above wasn't written or posted by me.

[Little Dot]

Interesting, MN.

Oh, the friend.

[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:
Why seems it always impossible here to discuss as adults [snip]
[/quote]

Hi, Octahedron. I think you were also asked the same question as iq in that thread. And I think you came in and started another tangent but I could be wrong.

But I don't remember your answering too. You have said before you have had no bad experiences with s/j, and you would have a drink with s if you chose. lol

So what KIND of experiences have you had in person? Have you had any in person too? For a long time, like yukesam? What did he say, days spent with s?

Other people talk from the experience living amongst them, in Michigan.

How about you? Just asking so all at HCF know the weight of your opinions a little.

You always appear at interesting times.

Why is it impossible to get straight answers from iq or you sometimes?

[Richard]

I know Octahedron has had consultations and I think he might have been to some seminars.

[PurplePebble]

[user=13]Octahedron[/user] wrote:

In this case, IQ is the controller...Because I say this or that (that he doesnt like or agree with)  = the amount of good or bad karma I am generating for myself in his opinion. Look how many times people who beleive in karma use it as a weapon - if you do this or that = bad or good karma for you.

No different from a belief in a "vengeful god" that will be good to you if you do A or smite you if you do B.

I would say in general, God with nature is the mathematical controller in the case of karma, altough I hoped you were just referring to some artificial kind of karma and not to iqhunk.

Maybe iqhunk was just trying to explain some laws of the occult in relation to the posts about DI and SS here; did you feel attacked by his posts about karma ?

I have written many times also about karma at HCF, like karma is not absolute, but it is relative and there is free will, but necessity is also a law. I have an opinion about karma, and iqhunk has an opinion about karma. We sometimes agree, and we sometimes do not agree.

Why seems it always impossible here to discuss as adults about occult laws and the spirit in general ?

i.e. why was that latest post of artificialflavors here allowed ? 

I don't feel attacked by iq at all. And yes, I was referring to iq hunk and his use of "karmic payback" as his only defense and rebuttal to more or less everything I say.


If everyone was worried about karmic payback, or watched their words when exposing charlatans etc..(that apparently and according to some, exposing them is even more dastardly than what these charlatans actually do and are doing ) then we might as well let them get on with it for the sake of our own "karmic bank accounts".

What if DI kept silent about his beliefs/ knowledge or whatever for the sake if his own karma?

In some peoples minds, it is an apparent crime to expose charlatans.

Funny how it is only certain people that have a problem with it.

By using fear based tactics ( like the idea of accruing bad karma) to silence people into not expressing themselves, what they might know and to tell of their experiences however they see fit, (because some people find it offensive and not in line with their belief systems) is a form of thought control / mind control.

[Little Dot]

Thanks, Richard.

Doesn't really mean a thing if that's the extent of interaction with people, known con artists, whose supreme talent is to hide the fact that they are con artists, and then has said what he has said to "alleged" accounts (I'll give there) of people who have lived in MI, spent time with them at their home, etc, etc.

How can anyone with simple interaction have the audacity to tear down anything shared as we saw in that thread.

You'd think people would just listen at first instead of rally to s/j's defense.

Same thing happening here with David Icke. Yes, let's keep on point.

All we do is go round and round.

Sorry, that's it for me. Nothing can change my mind what the good cop/bad cop of HCF do here. There is no answer, and there likely will be no answer-- again. And it really makes no difference now if there comes an answer.

It's simple enough to answer quickly. It was simple enough to answer quickly once and for all back in the thread.

It is obvious. I will go back to reading, thank you.

Edited to add:
It's also quite interesting that out of soooooo many ppl, it's Octahedron, iq (together again) and MC and co that are having such success with the hyperspace techniques. These ppl who have never been close to s/j, may not even have MET them. Surely they haven't been friends with them, in their home as some like ppl getting kicked out of the cult. Just an observation.