Hi all, "Praises be, I've seen the light!"

[Elizabeth]

Lol, Richard. Perhaps TheToltec was a friend, or more likely someone who bought more of their junk over the years...since 2003 I think.

Janet was always drumming on about breaking through isolation programming and connecting with each other. "St. Joseph being on the top-10 list of places to live" article kept making the rounds. The new forum was introduced in a way that they said they'd feel comfortable with. Janet reads and comments on the newsletters; Stewart gets on the boards occasionally. We'd mostly chat amongst ourselves. And get into trouble ourselves...some knock-down-drag-outs with you know who.

My antennae went up early on when I was struggling to quickly plow through their material. Stewart would contradict himself; Janet would contradict herself, and they'd both contradict each other! I'd say, "Holy Moly" as if it isn't hard enough to make it through pages of esoteric glyphs, weekends' worth of dvd-intensives, 1000's of pages of sci.fi., potboiler unsubstantiated (anywhere else) material but I have to contend with this! But why did I feel compelled to do it though? Some of it is very entertaining...I'll give it that. He should have just gone to Hollywood and stayed out of the-messing-in-our-minds business. You probably know he has cookie cutter/form letter-type readings now!

[BlueMoon]

Welcome Elizabeth

Welcome alex_fresh@

Glad you found HCF... icon_2thumbs

[Richard]

Lol, Richard. Perhaps TheToltec was a friend, or more likely someone who bought more of their junk over the years...since 2003 I think.

Janet was always drumming on about breaking through isolation programming and connecting with each other. "St. Joseph being on the top-10 list of places to live" article kept making the rounds. The new forum was introduced in a way that they said they'd feel comfortable with. Janet reads and comments on the newsletters; Stewart gets on the boards occasionally. We'd mostly chat amongst ourselves. And get into trouble ourselves...some knock-down-drag-outs with you know who.

My antennae went up early on when I was struggling to quickly plow through their material. Stewart would contradict himself; Janet would contradict herself, and they'd both contradict each other! I'd say, "Holy Moly" as if it isn't hard enough to make it through pages of esoteric glyphs, weekends' worth of dvd-intensives, 1000's of pages of sci.fi., potboiler unsubstantiated (anywhere else) material but I have to contend with this! But why did I feel compelled to do it though? Some of it is very entertaining...I'll give it that. He should have just gone to Hollywood and stayed out of the-messing-in-our-minds business. You probably know he has cookie cutter/form letter-type readings now!

The Swerdlows are always contradicting themselves. It's because they make up stuff on the fly and forget what they've said in the past.

[alex_fresh@]

I am a bit confused guys reading the past forum topics going back to 2005 looking at archetypes forums etc and there seems to be good reviews from people about the books fast forward to today there is a lot of doubt about the information they but out so what i am trying to say is should i carry on with hyperspace work and over soul communication or is that all disinformation as well sorry for the confusion. there are two people who post really good stuff well it sounds good MC and silver infinity they seem to know what they are talking about but then theirs all this doubt about it at the same time i do admit i am confused at the moment because i feel as if i am being pulled in two opposite directions do i carry on using hyperspace work?

[alex_fresh@]

and if i do carry on the hyperspace work how do i know if its safe i read that the books are incomplete i am feeling very mixed up here no thing is making sense i know i need some time but any advice is deeply appreciated thanks

[Richard]

Back in 2005 most members here believed in expansions because the material was new to us. As time went on we realized it was disinformation. SilverInfinity got messed up doing the hyperspace techniques. MC developed her own techniques that seem to work for some people.

[Mercy Now]

[user=1755]Elizabeth[/user] wrote:

What I was hoping to find there...I have no idea.  I'd get lulled into thinking that this was a good way to spend my time.  What I'm most concerned about are the young people at the forum, whose tales of depression and loner status put them already at risk. Reinforcement of Expansions values and certain mentally ill predators (without me there to do battle for them) worries me.

Elizabeth , This is a concern of mine as well as I have noticed they seem to be targeting a younger audience these days.

[Elizabeth]

Hi Alex. I feel your pain. They're good, I'll give 'em that. They keep constant drama around themselves, have circular logic which keeps the finger of blame forever pointed at oneself where they want it to be. (I resisted this a bit in my posts and tried to refute it.) They're all about convincing people that they have been sexually abused and programmed even if they, by chance, haven't been. The longer you stay, the more neurotic you'll feel. I'm especially concerned with someone named Micayla right now over at the forum. She's 19. (At the youth thread.) My feeling is that she is generally programmed but she's convincing herself (and being convinced, that she's specifically programmed). Alex, if you still have access can you keep an eye on this for me? From a mental health perspective this is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and needs to be stopped! I'm sure these two have drunk their own cool-aid and believe their own lies. Stewart will probably end up in jail pretty soon based on the sexual deprogramming stuff that's boiling over. (that Janet--I swear, doesn't even know about!)

Alex, be very kind and patient with yourself. The only reason I'm more irritated than sad, is because I had my heart ripped out years ago when I deprogrammed from my first cult. My background is in Psych./Soc./Nursing/healing(massage/energy) and I still got reeled in! This one only took 9 months but if I hadn't brought this forum thing to a head I probably would still be involved! P.S. Also, if there's a posting from qp, I'd be curious too. That person also was appalled by what just happened. Thanks. You're going to feel MUCH better soon.

[Mercy Now]

[user=1759]alex_fresh@[/user] wrote:

I am a bit confused guys reading the past forum topics going back to 2005 looking at archetypes forums etc and there seems to be good reviews from people about the books fast forward to today there is a lot of doubt about the information they but out so what i am trying to say is should i carry on with hyperspace work and over soul communication or is that all disinformation as well sorry for the confusion. there are two people who post really good stuff well it sounds good MC and silver infinity they seem to know what they are talking about but then theirs all this doubt about it at the same time i do admit i am confused at the moment because i feel as if i am being pulled in two opposite directions do i carry on using hyperspace work?

alex,

Perhaps ask yourself ..... Why would you carry on the hyperspace techniques?


IMO ...I would stop them for a few months and see if there is a difference or how you feel.

Just my 2 pennies.:?

[yukesam]

Just found this thread.

Welcome Elizabeth and Alex.

Take it easy and calm down Alex and get that hyperspace BS techniques out of your head for NOW. You need to get touched with part of you that you had been neglecting since you joined the expansions, the plain good ole common sense.

Rushing things will not get you anywhere so you need to take things one at a time. But feel free to say whatever in your mind here and get them out right here in this thread. And thanks for watching my videos.:)

Is it me or Elizabeth reminds me good ole mix of PP and MN ! icon_lol

That's great compliment by the way Elizabeth!

ps.: I've got so much questions for two of you about that forum.