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[Andrea]

I must admit the comment by Xanthas came across as offensive to me as well. I guess because I don't understand what being Jewish has to do with the topic at hand.

[xanthas]

You misunderstand what this about. Maybe I should've not posted this here. It's not as obvious as it seems. Zionist is not the same as being Jewish - just as Seventh Day Advantist is not necessarily 'Christian'. Other than that, I am absolutely not interested in religion. They're as much responsible for creating division, hatred and 'better than' (right across the board) than the race issue (I am not white & yes, I've experienced racism first-hand, so thank you for your lecture, but no thank you).

Why you have to point out that you've been a member since 2005 and you may only have posted here every once in a while has nothing to do with this issue. If you are 'offended' then you have to ask yourself why you cannot bother looking beyond the obvious 'tag' of the website.

It's about making an effort to look beyond the 'front' of who Alex Jones is and who his real masters are but if that's too much, then one should not be surprised if they suck you into their particular paradigm. The point is to be able to recognise that deceit and BS mindf*cks come in all shapes, sizes and forms as well as political and religious 'colours' and that nothing is what it seems. If, after having been on this site since 2005, you still have not grasped onto this, then I'm afraid, something's being lost you.

Maybe this is not for you, so just ignore it instead of getting worked up over it?

If, however, you're interested in where AJ and his cronies come from, then we might be able to find a common thread. Other than that, it's not my job to do the 'awareness' thing for you. That's your job. If you like being misled by more BS artists, be my guest, but don't complain if they screw with your head.

Thank you for input.

[Mercy Now]

[user=58]Lone Wolf[/user] wrote:

Xanthas,

I am asking you and anyone else who posts here if they feel that being born a Jew automatically makes you evil.

 

I don't think hatred, finger pointing, suspicion of others who are not "like" you, racism, and prejudice are qualities to feed and foster- I believe they are fear based learned behaviors to own and rise above.

This type of villainization of the "other" leads to things like- the inquisition, ethnic cleansing, the holocaust and lynching. I hope you find these things as unacceptable as I do.

 

There are perfectly "good" jews, just like there are perfectly good christians, moslems etc.... in all walks of life.

enough.

 

Lone Wolf no, I don't believe being born or being a Jew or a Christian or a Moslem etc. automatically makes one evil.

Indeed the real "conspiracy "as it were, is designed to pollute your spirit and poison your heart and soul with hatred and as much darkness as can be invoked and injected.

"They" don't really care who you hate as long as you hate.

It's a spiritual / vibrational war in nature. To instill within you that which is "them". They want your soul.


Jones and Icke and the other network agents work every day to stir the pot to produce the very substance that they seemingly fight . Hijackers of spirit.

I have no problem with exposing them and pointing out what they do and how if I can. In that process however I will not become them.

[BlueMoon]

[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:

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Lone Wolf no, I don't believe being born or being a Jew or a Christian or a Moslem etc. automatically makes one evil.

Indeed the real "conspiracy "as it were, is designed to pollute your spirit and poison your heart and soul with hatred and as much darkness as can be invoked and injected.

"They" don't really care who you hate as long as you hate.

It's a spiritual / vibrational war in nature. To instill within you that which is "them". They want your soul.

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Agree with MN... I couldn't say it any better.

[Richard]

just as Seventh Day Advantist is not necessarily 'Christian'.

I'm confused with that statement. How are Adventist not necessarily Christian?

[Third Aye]

[user=58]Lone Wolf[/user] wrote:

Xanthas,

I am asking you and anyone else who posts here if they feel that being born a Jew automatically makes you evil.

I have visited this site often. More so lately. I have been a member of this site since 2005. I have noticed many comments here and there throughout this site referring to Jews as if they are the scourge of this planet and something to be ashamed of.

If I am mistaken in my perception, please let me know.

There are all kinds of people of various colors, races and religions who have done evil things. (Consider the Christian crusades). There may be some "evil jewish conspiracy", but there no doubt "evil christian",  "evil moslem" and evil "whatever else" conspiracies too. No different. 

I don't think hatred, finger pointing, suspicion of others who are not "like" you, racism, and prejudice are qualities to feed and foster- I believe they are fear based learned behaviors to own and rise above.

This type of villainization of the "other" leads to things like- the inquisition, ethnic cleansing, the holocaust and lynching. I hope you find these things as unacceptable as I do.

 

There are perfectly "good" jews, just like there are perfectly good christians, moslems etc.... in all walks of life.

enough.

 

Actually, no one is born a Jew. Or a muslim. Or a christian for that matter.
We are born human. That is all. Nothing more, nothing less.

The control system that one is born into is not the person. It is merely the environment that one must overcome from birth. Or not.

All religions are systems of control. They do not celebrate the qualities of being the one thing that no one can escape- human.

Therefore, it is, in actuality, a contradiction of terms to call a human "a good jew", or " a good Christian". That is like judging a slave's worth by how little he resists when being whipped or bound.

There are many people, both good and bad, who fall victim to these control systems. They should be judged, not by which system they are a part of, but by their own personal merits as a human being.

[Richard]

No one is saying Jews are evil. It's the Zionist that are causing all the problems. They control just about everything worth controlling. When people speak out about the Zionist people take that to mean all Jews. All Jews aren't Zionist. There are many Jews against Zionism.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

[Lone Wolf]

Thanks to everyone for their interesting responses to my question.

MN- I agree with you and appreciate it. 

Third Aye- interesting take on things. I do see your point.

Far as Xanthas- if you thought I was lecturing you, well, I wasn't. I was posing a question, not just directed at you, but in general. which is what forums are about?

 Along with Andrea, I was wondering what being Jewish had to do with a David Icke thread. I was asking for clarity and opinions.  

The reason I mentioned how long I have been a member is made clear in that post.

No need for the attack type response? I was not attacking you. 

[Auriga]

Icke, The Swerdlows, Alex Jones, etc. are all CIA operations, some with their awareness and some without.

 

 

 

[Mercy Now]

Anyone ever read "The Changing Images of Man" ?


http://www.scribd.com/doc/33083790/Chang...titute-SRI

It was sponsored by *ahem* SRI Standford Research Institute (a club memeber) *cough* cough*;)


Gives you a little insight as to "what's happenin' here" .