(08-04-2014, 11:02 PM)millipodium Wrote: I don't buy into anything that has had a formalized system of adherents teaching about it for many years, this always corrupts the teachings in some way. as far as "choosing a system to adhere to" ... I would prefer not to.
Probably like the Public Fool System where you are forced fed knowledge and can not think for yourself nor do they encourage you to develop critical thinking and never accept whether what the teacher has told you is true until you have sufficiently researched and investigated it yourself of whether what the teacher spoke to you is true or a big fat lie filled with BS and an agenda.
My understanding of the Lama Tibetan Buddhist method is that they choose the the cream of crop so to speak after they have tested each candiate to determine if he is dull minded or does he have a sharp mind and can he think on his own and do the work and investigate for himself what methods we have shown him or the direction we have pointed him to look for his answers. The so called Tibetan Buddhist teachers don't teach anything since it can not be taught to the person he has to investigate this himself to acquire a deeper understand and knowledge of the subject matter the direction the teacher pointed him to begin his investigation in his search for the truth that he can confirm or not for himself. Over time they have worked at the bugs in their methods via trial and error. The buddha dude never taught any knowledge in such away that it would change a person by hearing it he taught them the methods to investigate themselves of whether what he was saying to his disciples or students was true or not and he never expected people to believe him until they were convinced themselves of whether what he said is true or not.
Quote taken from The Secret Oral Teaching of Tibetan Buddhist Sects: "The attainment of transcendent insight is the real object of the training advocated in the traditional Oral Teachings, which do not consist, as so many imagine, in teaching certain things to the pupil, in revealing to him certain secrets, but rather in showing him the means to learn them and discover them for himself."
Its your choice no one said you have to follow a teacher student model you can self teach yourself but it will be slow and a lot of trial and error. Or if you think that you will be easily brainwashed by such a system then you are a dull minded person since they would never bother with you or you would be a waste of their time and you would be to lazy to ever investigate for yourself by freely using your mind using the methods that the teachers would have taught you to help you begin your own investigations and self discoveries on your own.