Mind Control Cults

[Richard]

This is true, I tried to straighten him out about Stephen and Weng but I didn't get anywhere. He just kept acting like he had the facts straight. I think he's one of those people whose ego doesn't allow them to realize when they're wrong. They just keep thinking they're right.

[Iam_That_Iam]

Stephen has had email conversations stew but that's it. Stephen never had any consultations or been to any seminars. I know stew had Stephen mixed up with another person because one time stew was telling me to get rid of Stephen from the forum and I asked why. stew went on saying what a bad guy Stephen is and when he described Stephen he was 100% wrong. I don't know who he was thinking of but it was the Stephen I know.

stew did the same thing about Weng. He talked how he met him and his parents and once again he was 100% wrong. Weng and his parents never met stew. I think stew meets so many people that he mixes people up with other people.

Mary Ann never had her info on the net. She uses it in her corporate seminars.

hmmm... anyway to Mary Ann can be contacted? does she have a website... or something related? :)

[Richard]

[user=23]Iam_That_Iam[/user] wrote

hmmm... anyway to Mary Ann can be contacted? does she have a website... or something related? :)
 

She doesn't have a website and I'm not sure how to get in touch with her. A member named kindness knows her and you can always check with him how to get a hold of her. We had a discussion about her in this thread:

http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum62/6665.html

[Octahedron]

Why was the Q&A a failure?

If done correctly it can be done in a very nice way, like a screening process through PMs that is not too harsh. General guidelines could be set up etc. Q&A´s can be great if done properly.

Maybe you can put more intitiatives here in this interesting subject.

I want to give more room to new members to create their own discussions and initiatives at HCF, esp. about Montauk & Expansions. 

About the stories of Stephen and Weng, I have info from the beginning. There is so much confusion created with or by expansions with them.

I will think about some specific questions to Cliff.

New members, like shibbator, please take over for more room for your own; I don't want and I can not afford always be at the frontpage at HCF.

[Octahedron]

... I figured Steward got his info about the KBA from the original KBA thread and 2nd KBA thread from your website and claimed it as his own info.

Somewhat, very little.

[Etarnlia]

I could help in certain ways. At the moment it is difficult to commit to something I must check up on daily, but if there was something that could be done weekly that would be possible. Those that were engaged in the last Q&A, please contact me to fill me in on how it worked and just give me a brief overview on how it worked.

[Richard]

Even if we wanted to do a Q&A again I'm not sure Cliff would want to do it again.

How it worked members would post or PM their questions and I would send them to Cliff. Then he would answer them and I would post his answer.

[arejay]

[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:
 They would con a hacker into believing hacking the site was fighting the Illuminati or the enemy.
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So true.

[arejay]

[user=1590]mtngoat[/user] wrote:

he said that Expansions had been "under attack for the past two weeks," and that the website had been taken down by hackers; therefore, they "must be getting close to something." Actually, I think that's exactly the problem, just in reverse of the way he suggested it.

What I am about to type is what I seen happen from my knowledge of working online for over 16 years. I also sometimes get hired to figure out what went wrong with a site and why its slow, or goes down a lot. So below is what I think happened from what I saw :

His web guy decided to port over a content management system that was written in a different language (Coldfusion) then the new content management system (php), which started to cause the shared web server the site sit's on to start using way too much of the CPU, which made it go slow like it was getting attacked.

Then when setting up the new content management system he used a FREE template. These templates usually has extra code installed, and other things that could slow down and overload a site that is not hosted on a dedicated server. Here is the link to the theme they got : http://www.eddieandwally.com/

The web guy tried to hide that he used another person's theme, but he did not know of all of the footprints, because you to can view expansions.com, then right click and view the source code where you will see the following link : http://expansions.com/wp-content/themes/.../style.css

Load that link and you see the real web address of the person who made the theme. Yet their guy tried to change the name to expansions, yet did not fully fake his talents.

Just my observations on when this happened.

[Octahedron]

Octahedron,

Cliff would be happy to talk with you,  I can tell you that he does not like to participate in forums, he really does not like writing much at all, and prefers talking, and it will not work as a Q&A.

Let me clarify –

The book 13 cubed was firstly not the idea of SS, and no person that participated received anything for their work, and let me also add that most people that did participate had an awful time writing down their story, they were attacked, bombarded, targeted to every extreme you can imagine. Some stories completely changed, some unaltered and the rest simply spiced up for a more interesting read, but I don’t know everyone in that book, so there are a few I cannot comment on, and the main thing that people must know is that most people were not talking with SS when that book was released, so the analyzing at the end of each chapter is mostly sarcastic, and written with personal retribution.

 

Pine gap, yes what an interesting place, and I agree it would make for great conversation, this is in the heart of Australia; the outback, where the energy resonates the indigenous people of this land, and ‘coincidently’ where the earths solar plexus chakra is situated. It is known as the ‘blood bank’ it is the place where everyone’s blood is kept, and if you say I have never had a blood test, please… do not reply…because I will seriously have to laugh.

Thank you,

I will first have to find others things out about Pine Gap/Montauk etc.  Likely Pine Gap is a vortex/gate to planet Mars.

Yes, they have a big database of DNA, blood etc. in Pine Gap since the time of Nixon, when Australia became under 100% US control.

I've read somewhere, they are programming high politicians and company managers from all over the world in Pine Gap.