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I wanted to share some of my initial experiences at Expansions which goes back to 2001 when I purchased all of their VHS seminar tapes and also became certified in level 1 Hyperspace techniques.

In mid 2003 I received a call from a Ryan Elliot who asked me if I wanted to be a CAN TV producer in Chicago which I hesitated but he then said that it was SS who asked. He also stressed that it would be a way of publicizing the Expansions information and/or interviews on cable television in Chicago. I initially hesitated but agreed and took the necessary classes and was certified to use the CAN TV studios in Chicago to broadcast SS interviews. In the meantime, Ryan Elliott thought I wanted to take over his job, since he was already doing all of the video production and dvd work for Expansions. He apparently was also a Monarch who was originally from St Joseph, MI and was founder of the "The Light Heart Center" in Winfield, Illinois where SS filmed a seminar in the Chicago area.

Ryan gave SJ an ultimatum that they would have to choose between him or me and their non-response left me to be one of the next producers along with Celeste. At that point Ryan withheld all of their seminar master tapes and wanted compensation because of the potential revenue that he would have lost. However, I had already converted all of the original VHS tapes that I purchased from them into DVD format. Basically, I reconstituted the majority of their seminars from the original VHS copies that I purchased and without the Ryan master tapes. Eventually, Ryan left the original master tapes on their front lawn and still expected payment from them which never came.

I posted all of the CAN TV interviews on You Tube which included Cliff's interview which I finally withdrew as SJ wanted me to convert all of the 56 shows in an album set which I created and was sold. In this process, I volunteered to do all the production work without any pay except for cost of materials and mailing. I did it all of the duplication work from my home and even mailed out the orders as well. Eventually, Tania and Dr Yu joined the Expansion's fold and at that point JS told me that there will be major changes and that I had to reformat all of the current dvd sets from 4 hours per dvd to 1 hour per dvd in order to increase the price of the seminars as was suggested by Tania. I said that this is a major project and that I declined to do. I eventually returned all of their dvd sets and duplication equipment and left Expansion's. I feel disappointed that I allowed myself to be controlled by falling for their tantalizing, cutting edge, "out of this world" information that never materialized in their predictions and prophecies. It was a valuable learning experience for me in a cult which I hope others will consider not joining as I experienced.
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That was a interesting story. Thanks for sharing it. A lot of it sounds like how they treat everyone. Pay people very little or nothing at all.
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Interesting wanderer. I know someone who SJ tried to get to move to the St. Joe area and said he could get them a TV job in Chicago.
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There wasn't really a TV position available in Chicago as CAN TV is a public, non-for-profit broadcasting company which was allowed to broadcast shows on the COMCAST cable network.  It seems SJ wanted additional people  to use the CAN TV studios to produce the Expansion shows. Again, this was not a paying job but done voluntarily unless SJ would pay their salary. 
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[user=1668]wanderer[/user] wrote:
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There wasn't really a TV position available in Chicago as CAN TV is a public, non-for-profit broadcasting company which was allowed to broadcast shows on the COMCAST cable network.  It seems SJ wanted additional people  to use the CAN TV studios to produce the Expansion shows. Again, this was not a paying job but done voluntarily unless SJ would pay their salary. 

Yes I figured as much. This person had a good job and was actually considering following the S/J suggestion.
That was it for me and I told them what I knew. That's when they left expansions.
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I found an interesting site that had the expansion's ritual information and practices presented by Benjamin (aka Sevastase on the GETBIG forum).

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=353996.25

 

He also has a website in Romania and seem to have close ties to SS.  

http://sebastianivascu.com/biography/?lang=en

It's interesting to find "expansion's" in various forums.
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Sebastian use to be a member here. I think he has love/hate feelings for stew and it sounds like stew doesn't care for him much.
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[user=1668]wanderer[/user] wrote:
Quote:I found an interesting site that had the expansion's ritual information and practices presented by Benjamin (aka Sevastase on the GETBIG forum).

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=353996.25

 

He also has a website in Romania and seem to have close ties to SS.  

http://sebastianivascu.com/biography/?lang=en

It's interesting to find "expansion's" in various forums.


There was a thread on the DI forum about this which was removed. A conversation between me and sebastian...i have to get round to posting the copy I have of it. It is quite insightful.

It was removed off the DI forum a week or so ago.


Bear with me till I get it done ...
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I guess it's the same MO that SS always uses and calls them brothers when he recognizes someone from Montauk.  Apparently, it's also a very short lived recognition from Cliff onward.

 

 
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stew says people are connected to him to hook them. What do you mean stew had a very short lived recognition from Cliff onward?
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