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#31
Reader,  Thanks for the post, no you not bore me.    I loved the seth material but always felt like something was missing.   I knew something was wrong when the entity seth would not go into Aliens as much as i wanted, nor would it really talk of our past history correctly or the constant lies we are told from our leaders.  Love the star trek stuff but i will admit now that i did not like the "jane way" capt. series.  Im Watching the V - tv series now.  The V-mini series is much better though.
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#32
Yeah I'm also a Star Trek fan--since early childhood I saw episodes of the original series including the animated star trek series. I didn't watch TOS and the animated trek all through the first ten years of my life though. Most of the time I watched Disney in early childhood as well as anything that seemed like horror for children or any thing on ABC(Full House,etc). When I was 11, I stopped watching the Disney channel and began watched Star Trek The Next Generation thanks to my brother. It was kind of lonely in junior high because I didn't know many who were obsessive ST fans like me--at that time the craze for kids my age was 90210 ,Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,and NKOTB(shudders...). I kind of got a little depressed by the series finale of ST TNG lol but I was grateful they had the reruns and that ST DS9 and the X Files were on. So yeah, I'm a sci fi freak. I kind of went off of my ST addiction a few months ago although I did watch ST Nemesis a few weeks ago. 

ST Voyager sucks!! lol.

I wasn't into the Seth stuff as you all had mentioned...

Reader: your post wasn't boring. I think we should all try to share what we think is okay with sharing with each other so that we can help understand ourselves and the world better and maybe our purposes or if we're in the same oversoul family. Its interesting that your mother saw other entities. Do you see these entities?

William: I hope you didn't take my last post as offensive...no harm intended or anything!! *(I usually have this silly paranoia that I might have done some harm..even if its just a thought projection,etc so I feel bad about it at times).

I realized that I still use these transmitting thought abilities on animals and little babies but usually for good purposes...like asking a baby to smile or asking it or an animal to calm down. I think the stray cats in my backyard might actually be spies sent to spy on me..I remember Stewart said that cats were used as spies in ancient times lol. Weird thing is I have dreams about these cats and they come true..or I somehow instantly know when a cat is hungry..I think they send me telepathic messages....i joke that one of them stalks us...

I haven't actually hypnotized anyone..all I would do is just send a thought to see if someone could repeat it back to me unknowingly...and then when I realized that I had this ability I got a little nervous and scared that it could be used to harm others--I think one of my alters used it when I saw people I knew dating each other..one of my alters would say the words to get into the subconscious of someone else..and the other one would feel jealous and angry...and there were my other ones that would tell the alters to not do this to others...Due to this very reason, I'd try to stay away from friends who were dating each other because I didn't want to see them break up with each other especially if they really had a deep emotional bond and were in love with each other.  And I wanted to prevent the sadistic alters in me from causing harm on others and making me feel more ashamed of myself. I actually isolated myself from people for a few years..//So I had these internal battles quite often and Obviously I don't feel proud of what I did. I'd have a part of me doing something and then another part of me fighting it. I know its bad to blame my alters lol. "I didn't do it! She did it!!!..but wait..she's me?!!!".

Btw I feel I can trust you guys. I also feel like I need to talk about these things and voice it out. Right now I don't know if I can trust people in my life since they are probably all handlers/programmed folks.

Do any of you guys feel energies or know how to channel energies..kinda like reiki channels do? What about feeling changes in your own auras?  Just curious....Trying to see if we all have other things in common

Richard: that's interesting what you said about joining the rosicrucians and having been into Wicca.....What was it like to be in the Rosicrucians?

Any of you guys know about what its like to feel activated? Apparently I am being activated and I think for me that means a change in my energy level but its mostly a positive feeling. I'm sure there are other alters in me trying to fight it because some of them feel angry about it while others feel good about the activation. I realized we're being triggered easily all the time..but I learned from Monica that its a specific sequence that will trigger us into carrying something out for "Them". I also realize that I think many of my alters are awake when I'm alert(i'm sure there are ones that are sleepy). I have been observing myself a lot...trying to see how they interact..I think they all fight for what they want and they struggle..I am trying to voice it out to the oversoul about what they fight over in regards to wants and needs and actions that I have trouble carrying out because parts of me are telling me to do something else.

btw---do any of you guys look at a surface and then all of a sudden see some faces in it?? I look at my carpet or ceiling at night times and sometimes I see faces projected on them and sometimes turn into figures..some of these images form into a sentence or a phrase...The thing is that the images look like they are formed from a pattern on the carpet(you know how you walk or move against a carpet and it shows those traces on teh floor? or when you look at a ceiling..the painted ceiling doesn't look like a smooth surface...and there's some uneven points or pores from the paint formed on the wall?) or even on the ceiling..I think my pineal projects these images onto the floor or ceiling or whatever surface I'm looking at. It doesn't do this always and its sometimes like a message of advice for me..but its freaky. I think this is definitely due to programming. 

peace
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#33
  I just watched Nemesis last week or so.  Im going to rewatch the Startrek next generation from the begining soon.
  I started re-watching Dune the movie this week but the copy i have is bad so im re-ordering it - It has Picard in it.
    I never really even thought anything special about being able to hypnotize people, I thought everyone could do it if they tried.......  It was effortless to me but i dont even think about ever doing it again.
  We are all just understanding being Activated.... Its slippery, evasive, its deniel and sometimes an excuse.   Being Activated can feel frustrating and makes me mad at the world and myself.  You can get in a mood and it will last for days or weeks and longer....
    I have a Rose tree outside and at night its leaves cast a shadow like an aliens head.  Ive been thinking about tracing the shadow out but have not.    I use to take photos with a camera of moss and trees that form faces and things. 
    I like to stare at objects until the background meshes into 3D.  You would use your eyes the same way as those 3D paintings that will form a hidden picture when you focus your eyes just right.
          If we are taught that everyone that appears in our dreams are ourself, Is that true in real life?  
  
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#34
Lol I watched Star Trek a zillion times-I love the show so much--I have an emotional attachment to it..I felt like the crew on Enterprise NC-1701D was my family lol. For now I am just taking a break from it so I can have new experiences and take my focus elsewhere to other things/projects,etc.

William: Yes its true that if everyone and everything in our dreams are aspects of ourselves, its true that in our real lives, everyone is a reflection of ourself. We're all existing within God-Mind and I believe we're all from the same being but we all represent different aspects of God-Mind. So this is how we maintain our identities and individual selves yet we're from the same being and all have the same essence. Everyone who is around us reflects different parts of ourselves. Hope I explained that properly!! :o)

btw--lol are you just exploring now what ST is going to reflect back at you now about yourself? Just curious. Who is your favorite ST character?? Lol if there isn't just one...who are the others then?

Interesting what you said about the tree and forest shadows---I have thought about tracing the pictures that form on my carpet/ceiling,etc. Actually, I also see these weird images on my closet door too but I hope by late tonight I will have posted some violet wall paper on the closet doors lol to prevent whomever from coming into my room to take me. So you have a Rose plant, I guess that means roses are triggers for you unless you deprogrammed from that already? What do you think this means if we see images on surfaces that our mind is projecting onto them? When you used a camera to take pictures of the images, did you see the images on the cameras?  just curious.

So while we're deprogramming and while we're protecting ourselves, will we still be used by "them" in different ways?how do we know who are our handlers?
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#35
PurpleParrot Wrote:Lol I watched Star Trek a zillion times-

William: Yes its true that if everyone and everything in our dreams are aspects of ourselves, its true that in our real lives, everyone is a reflection of ourself.

btw--lol are you just exploring now what ST is going to reflect back at you now about yourself? Just curious. Who is your favorite ST character?? Lol if there isn't just one...who are the others then?

 When you used a camera to take pictures of the images, did you see the images on the cameras?  just curious.

So while we're deprogramming and while we're protecting ourselves, will we still be used by "them" in different ways?how do we know who are our handlers?
  Ive seen all the Star trek, grew up with it, love still watching it.

     Thats why i was kidding about me being your future self.

           See answer 1

               I could still see the faces in the pictures yes,  One was woody woodpecker..

                     Still learning about deprogramming and handlers myself.

              Now you pointed out my Rose tree could be part of my programming i never thought of that.   Thanks for adding to my work load.   lol

  I just love Sci fi  so im always watching something like that.  Stargate, Farscape,.
     Watching Ron Burgundy Anchorman now.
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#36
William Wrote:I loved the seth material but always felt like something was missing.   I knew something was wrong when the entity seth would not go into Aliens as much as i wanted, nor would it really talk of our past history correctly or the constant lies we are told from our leaders.  Love the star trek stuff but i will admit now that i did not like the "jane way" capt. series.  Im Watching the V - tv series now.  The V-mini series is much better though.
William, the thing with the Seth books is the government infiltrated Jane Roberts’s organization and started mixing disinfo into the books. So only the early books are good.  

It sounds like a few of you have Greenstar programming. Interest in Sci-Fi is common with people who have Greenstar programming. I like some Sci-Fi movies but DreamTime is huge Sci-Fi fan. She’s almost as bad as the fans I’ve seen on TV that run around in Star Trek clothes and know the whole Klingon language. So I know she has Greenstar programming. I’m not sure if I have it or not since I only have a mild interest. 

PurpleParrot, it sounds like you have some special abilities being able put thoughts into people’s heads. I’ve always felt that was possible but in tests that I have tried I couldn’t do it. So I can see one reason why the Illuminati are using you. You must have good psychic abilities. Can you see auras too?  
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#37
Richard: I really wish I could see auras and chakras and other entities the way the Swerdlows do!!! I am sensitive to energies of myself and sometimes of others....and I can sense different things but that always varies and its never consistent because i guess its due to alters switching around or not being activated. I know when someone is in tune with themselves or is an empath and knows about their own ability..My brother has good psychic ability but he doesn't really believe in this stuff yet..he just thinks he's good at reading people even if he doesnt know wwho they are. My mother also has this ability too and she thinks the same as he does.  Sometimes I see a clear outline of people, of myself and other things and very rarely do I see a color..and if I do see a color on someone its around their head and its usually blue but I think its just a wishful thinking and a wishful projection of them. If I'm used by the Illuminati for my abilities its obviously not for good things and its obviously something where I'm harming someone. I have a feeling that the Illuminati use me for the following things: remote viewing(but I dont really know--I remember someone's face and then for some odd reason I focus on them and find myself sending something to them and find myself picking up something about them but it would only be verified if I see them next time...and I also tried to fight this ability a lot because I know this is wrong to tap into someone like that without oversoul permission), face recognition, memory recall(I'm probably a spy for them or something.), telepathic transmission and programming of others(probably worse..something that harms them severely), healing ability--probably reptiles because Stewart once told me that reiki is I think a reptilian healing system used to heal reptiles but won't really work well on humans...energy channeling..bringing energy to a place, and probably sexual stuff too. If I have auric reading ability, I think its embedded deep inside. I also have had a good ability to pick up languages and words..but I speak broken languages--nothing fluent..lol maybe English..jk on English lol. For all I know they probably use me to speak and chant satanic words. :o(

I purposely picked the name PurpleParrot instead of PurpleBird because I knew that the letter P enhances psychic frequency--I think that might be due to programming to want to enhance your ability...my brother has two letter P's in his name thats why he has a good psychic ability. Also two of my cousins in India have the letter P in their first name and they know about their psychic ability because of their mother(my aunt--the one who initiated me in reiki..i keep mentioning her because one of my alters blames her and the others do not get along with her..but other ones know she really meant well and knows she loves me...i think she is programmed though).

What about you guys??? What are your other abilities aside from speaking Klingon and Vulcan? jk lol

it sounds like DreamTime is more of a ST fan than I am though lol because I haven't gotten to the level where I'd learn how to speak Klingon. I do watch a lot of sci fi,fantasy,animation..those were my soap operas as opposed to watching "normal drama" lol. Richard, you don't think you have Green Star??

William: Yeah I like Farscape and Stargate even BattleStar Galactica...except i haven't had a good chance to follow them lol...been hanging out with like minded peoples in 3d thats why..but maybe those kids are programmed too. *shrugs*. William I finally got your joke lol. *slaps self*. Woody WoodPecker, eh?? I used to watch that crazy bird. I think he might be used as a programming construct against you but I wouldn't be able to tell you..i'm going to get the study guides on mind control and programming soon. so once i peruse it all , ill know better. :o)

There's a chance if we're all drawn to each other that we probably all have similar programming...

but who knows!!

William--its good you know about the rose tree because now you can deprogram but still have the tree as your friend...i dont know what to tell you but maybe you can ask oversoul to remove any satanic energy from it and violet flush it out? i dont know...just guessing here.

I wish DreamTime and Avatar would post here!!! 
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#38
I told Dreamtime about this thread and she’ll probably post something today. Lately she has been so focus on making jewelry that it is consuming all her time.  

I guess the thing that I don’t like about most Sci-Fi movies and series programs is that bad stuff is usually always happening. I don’t know why they can’t make Sci-Fi that has good stuff happening. Like instead of always encountering evil aliens that want to kill humans, why couldn’t humans meet advanced friendly aliens that want to help us advance? Well, I guess I really know the answer to that. Greenstar programming wants people to be afraid of aliens.

Here’s a link for those of you that want to learn the Klingon language. :unibrow: 

http://www.kli.org/
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#39
Hi again - in answer to some of PP's questions:  I don't see auras or entities - usually just get a feeling and a thought comes.  Can't hypnotise but have been hypnotised (easy subject apparently).  Have watched almost every SciFi programme on Australian TV over the years, American and British - was fascinated by V, loved Babylon 5, recently watched the Dune trilogy on DVD.  Have done Reiki 2 but haven't really used it a lot, mostly protection (before learning Stewart's methods), buildings, pets and whichever friends requested healing.  Didn't know this could be Reptilian healing.  Also have been to channellers and have books on how to do this but didn't follow thru - after hearing Stewart's views on channelling I guess this was wise.

William - When I first started meditating and I stared at something I found the objects and backgrounds bending and meshing and often do this.  I love 3D pictures and have one (my favourite) "Guardians of the Deep" (sharks).  None of my friends or family can see the images.  Have always been able to "see" faces in floor patterns, rocks, clouds, fabrics, walls etc - just thought it was my mind playing tricks.

Richard - did you ever read any Pleides stuff (Marciniak) or Dolores Cannon.  I also had books on Ashtar and the Conclaves - all that New Age hype.  I was one of those people who wanted to go in spaceships with Aliens, from right back to George Adamski's story.  Whitley Striber's story kind of put me off it.  As a teenager I wished I wasn't born when I was, I really wanted to be born a couple of hundred years into the future so I would know more about our origins and the universe(s).  As past, present and future is all simultaneous I should be able to access all - with practice (phew!)  Do you find this is a difficult concept to explain to "mainstream" people?  I haven't really talked about programming to anyone outside of the people who do Hyperspace work.   Should we be very selective or do you think we can introduce this to lots more people?
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#40
Reader, I did read the Pleiades books. I thought they were interesting but I didn’t know what to think of them. They were among the first channeled books that I’ve read. I’ve been reading underground publications since the 70’s and I’ve tried to discuss it with people and it seems that most people will reject any idea that hints at that they aren’t 100% in control of their life. So when you mention that we are slaves and being programmed, it usually doesn’t go over well. I guess that’s why the Illuminati’s plans are working so well, people refuse to recognize what is going on. They enjoy going thru life with blinders on. So yes, I think we have to be selective in who we think we can discuss this stuff with. It’s too bad it is that way. :(
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