BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
My younger brother accidentally turned my computer off losing most of my reply - but when I turned it on it was all there! I LOVE TEXTEDIT!!!
Yes I do find it easier when replying to more than one person especially, and taking more than one minute to type it in elsewhere. TEXTEDIT TEXTEDIT!!
Well hello ladies and gentleman, excuse me for the long letter - OH thank you you're so generous, quite kind.
Quote:It is not hypothetical, it is metaphorical. With the coming of age you will realize that there is more truth in that story than humour; far more.
Again you should pay more attention. I did not say your story was hypothetical, I was meaning in hypothetically speaking, if it were true etc. saying what I was saying and I believe there is a difference.
I find there is truth in logic. And find it difficult to apply that story to a real life situation other than one very, very vague.
I do like the story, but it also seems a bit shady.
Do you find yourself personally taken aback? You must be... because weren't you putting in suggestions not long ago?
I was not meaning to insult you, although you seem to want to do just that for me, which to me seems petty. Fancy me humoring you?
Quote:... and that was thou quote, thy pissed thy self laughing when read thee.
Uh, okay? Then thou laughs at very silly things. Not just as it wasn't really a quote at all, but wasn't meant to be taken so ironically serious. As it be an expression that yours truly was indeed not being so forceful.
Speaking of logic, as I quote you, you're saying 'your pissed your self laughing when read you.' I believe it's in the dictionary.
Not just one incidence, I believe I've had my dose of irony for the week!
But since theee seems to know how to have suuuch a great time why don't theee laugh with someone instead of at, my fair friend?
Quote:Is thou still at home by thee way? Is thou still thinking what shall thou do? Please don't say ye...
Ouch, that was a low blow.
May I say, that if you were in a fix I'd never kick you, especially if you were already down. Is it normal for you to substitute logic or its lack for attacks? To think if I was someone who was both open AND easily bruised!
Yes 'me' is still home, (don't say whaaaaaaa???) but not for long, and no I am not 'running away' or living with strangers trust me.
I might return your courteous comment in favor, but you weren't so conspicuous as to make yourself vulnerable.
And yes my silly fellow, 'me' knows what to do now... I think.
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I still don't get why you're calling Stew a rapist, pedophile maniac psycho child molester, though.
Quote:What I am finding in this thread is that here is a young person who is trying to find their way, needing to bounce possibilities off of others ( like minded people?). I am guessing that the majority of those responding in this thread are adults who have been in a place similar to AC at some point? (or still are?--maybe why the tone of some of the responses?) Can you remember being in a place like this? Who do you bounce these Ideas off if you were in AC's shoes? Is there a support system for you to share with? It is my experience that those of AC's age and experience level in life do like a good bit of discussion and do enjoy watching adults heads spin as the conversation goes from one direction to someplace the Adult didn't see coming. Whether intentional or not.
I think sound boarding with those who've been in similar situations is a great idea and useful place to start.
As for the last part, I don't find myself enjoying adults' heads spinning; as much fun as it sounds, I myself am hardly delighted by the latest petty launch-surprise-attack that decides to make itself known, and though I might wish I could apologize for such silly persons involved, only each person themselves can do that.
Nor am I a fan of complaining, especially considering if I did not generally keep things to myself, I would be less inclined to say no more than I think I should/need to as I did my first post in this thread. Complaining certainly wasn't my aim, otherwise I would have put in more about my father and his near irrefutable ways. And others might think I am making excuses, but I cannot help that. I simply see as having a great deal of time away from my parent as best, having taken in all accounts. And if when talking about complaining you were not referring to me, my mistake.
I understand your sentiments as I too am not a fan of those who complain and won't do anything about it. First of all, it seems to achieve nothing but wasting time, and second what fun is there in being whiny?
Quote:So, AC what is it you need-what plan are you forming to help your self?
;) A billion dollars never hurt anybody. LOL! I couldn't ask that even if I could, but thank you sincerely for the consideration.
I would like to keep exactly what I plan on doing more private, as I have my reasons whether they might be considered paranoid, or otherwise. It is basically the same reason I don't put out my personal affirmations. Otherwise I would shower anyone with those that are most helpful.
Aside from that, for those who have offered their help I would certainly offer mine, but I don't see it as necessary for others to find what final decision I have made. After all, some might take offense for whatever reasons.
More suggestions of course wouldn't hurt, as several had given similar suggestions so far and it's always wise to hear the different opinions.
I do have a way out, but it is short term. That is why I still wanted a sort of backup plan. There is the right path provides all your needs thing, but that's the sort of thing backup plans are for. Darn if I make a mistake and the supply turns short!
Aside from pointers, specifically I suppose the only thing I would really be looking for would be anyone who knows anything of which places attract less/least danger in the US. I think this would be the most useful pieces of information, though some insist safe people are better than safe places, I still think a safe place is not a bad start.
Quote:If I have some ideas I'll share them and I would suggest that we on this thread consider them, give POSITIVE responses and guide AC along. She needs to do the work. If for some reason some don't feel this can be done or are getting triggered by this let it go. Negativity only shuts down progress for All of US.
Aww you're so sweet!! *hugshugshugs*
Ahem - now judging by my emotional response you might think I started the thread for emotional reasons, but I assure you they were strongly logical. I just appreciate and like to reward kind persons. PS I hope you don't take the word 'reward' the wrong way.
Quote:E, I do not appreciate when somebody gets aggressive simply because I'm asking a question to better assess an individual's situation - regardless of how old they are.
Xanthas, if you are referring to aggression and my post before DT came in, quote Andrew - or rather quote me, as it was I who expressed 'ah hoho,' which should have been taken as me taking the message in light. If you think I was being aggressive in that message, I really think you should reread it; perhaps your own as well.
My messages have words that may or may not be interpreted as attitude or aggression, and I find yes often people do mistake my writing which I put in usually under a state of rational upfront logic, and take that to be rudeness for whatever reason. I think I do defend myself, as I should, always with a reasonable amount of logic, and yes your message did irritate me as I remember, after all I am human and would not want to live without emotion even if I could... but your words logically and plainly indicate aggression plus a need to throw points in... I don't know,
somebody's way. So I can only say again that we see in others what is in ourselves, and that again this seems to be very important in your case.
And as you also seem to be referring to what could only be my first response to you, it had no aggression at all. I had no trace of anger and was not the least irritated nor did I mean to attack you one bit and you took that to be one outrageous insult after another. Now
that I find outrageous!
It could leave anyone wondering what went wrong, but I'm not going to let it put any holes in my head.
Did I linger too much on the subject when replying to you? Or did I not say enough? Do you have great fear of others laughing at you, or otherwise...? How come you have not replied logically to my previous post nor explained your responses and you believe that much I am still wrong?
I think you avoided replying to my previous which was specifically to you and instead jumped at the chance to bash me to someone else. Don't you have friends for this? And if you are so weary (?) of getting caught by DreamTime or someone else, you should talk directly to me in a more rational way, perhaps like when you first posted me, which didn't seem so rude and explosive.
So for you to think of me as so young you must be quite older - and still, the child is not soothed within. Perhaps that is why you expected me to take more of a bowing down attitude; you look down on me.
Quote:Her reply was the classic: "Biting the hand that feeds you." and instead of going on full-defense she should've just replied properly without making herself look like a spoiled brat. As far as I'm concerned there are ways you can ask for something without coming across as a demanding "Princess on the Pea".
If my reply was so classic (relatable to being predictable) and you were really
just sincerely trying to help then why did you put your hand out?
Are you suggesting you are the hand that feeds me and I am biting you? Surely you wouldn't say that... I don't see how you've been particularly helpful and again you did not explain exactly how I've betrayed you in such a way, in fact I might say you have been opposite of helpful. And just in case you are saying my father is the one that feeds me in any way you would also be incorrect.
Somehow, going on 'full-defense' doesn't sound very appealing, maybe because the hidden meaning behind it. Are you upset that I do not reduce to the unsatisfied nastiness ('xcuse me DreamTime) you seem so comfortable using?
Is that proper? Then what is proper? How come I am both spoiled (again I would more about my situation) and improper at the same time?
Do you want me to be on full defense? Do you want me to be angry or offended? Is that because somehow you have been hurt? Why do you want me to suffer for your demons? If you are indeed hurting why would you wish the same on anyone else? Am I not understanding you enough? Or do you just want a fight? Did you really have a bad day? Or is it more than the course of a day and you find yourself in a tough situation, that maybe you think I'm not so bad off thus are ridiculing me or think I am complaining and are judging me, thus another reason as to why you're calling me spoiled?
Aside from that I have never made such demands from anyone on Hyperspace Cafe. And off the top of my head, heck nor can I think of anywhere else. (Your responses do seem to be the personal.) If I did, I would demand you save yourself the respect and not unfairly insult me, and if you must that you should do it to my face! Instead anyone is free to come and go or offer their fair suggestions. You are most certainly free to go, as much as I could miss you.
Quote:All she needs to feel settled is to not be invited for dessert? I mean give me a break! What planet is that girl coming from? Disneyland?
Yes, I am Mr Mickey Mouse. But even Mr Mouse Man still comes from Earth. He sure don't come from Mars.
Quote:I do not suffer fools gladly. And my intention was to actually get her to open up a bit more as to the true issues whereas her reply was just thoughtless & not very clever under the circumstances.
I might see you don't suffer anything gladly. Also I am familiar with that sort of saying, and although it did not come clear to mind while reading your posts, it is why I said "when ever am I in the mood for tolerating others' hypocritical accusations?" and everything.
I am not sure I completely understand why you view me as spoiled, I think I can understand just enough. When I said I'm never in the mood to tolerate others' so and so, it wasn't a throw of arrogance, it was more like self respect.
Did you expect to yell at me lacking such logic and then for me to stand there and... and what? Anyone who refuses to accept the sort of stance I took as anything near self respect, well I cannot respect their opinion because they clearly don't have my best interest at heart.
Is it that I'm not so humble and meek as Asians are reputable to be so in turn you wanted to surprise me, and express anger or blame because I've made you struggle with your belief system or how you put life in boxes/labels/categories? You would after all prefer me to be suck it up, would you not? Is it that no one's ever told you your attitude is intolerable or they won't have it or won't have you ruining their day/positive outlook? If not, then I'd be glad if you could fill me in. You want others to open up to their real problems, maybe you could open up and share too. So it is strange you're giving me all these questions or meanings with hidden reasons.
But even I have respect issues and am dealing with them to this day, it also seems to be something you really need to address. And as I take it you neither run away from your problems, it is that or again you can turn to your negativity which you almost seem to be defending.
EMERGe had a great point or more, you don't seem to care for it. What do you care for?
I really am sorry if I unnecessarily hurt you, but I wasn't at all trying to. Perhaps you are overly sensitive; and to no offense.
If others are supposed to bow down, bow low or bow out every time someone takes anything too personally, then the world in no time becomes a living land mine for everybody in it.
It is far more sensible/reasonable to be cool than to be touchy.
And now are you meaning to say that you cannot appreciate me, but you could appreciate my cleverness, or appreciate being cleverly insulted as opposed to simply insulted, as I managed not just to be unimaginably offensive but non sensibly dumb as well, or that when you are meant to look bad, you like to look really bad?
Whichever case, I am fine sitting as I am. I thankfully do not live to be accepted by society so do fall at the sound of such opinions.
Quote:There was a reason I asked those specific questions.
Since we are still on that you mind as well simply reply to my response which after all was meant for you.
Quote:Furthermore, you do not seem to have noticed that she wants to run away without really considering where she wants to go & for what reasons (mainly to take refuge with her guru/master/saviour - whatever).
Furthermore? I missed the part with all your points where you were supposed to reply to me, but oh well I'm not going to be waiting for them, after all it seems you're about to go. If you did, or bothered to make it direct I might take your responses more seriously.
Have you really considered that assessment in where I want to run away? I would be much less on logic and for being considerate or rational if I was about running away from problems instead of facing them. I have already faced my father and proven myself, why should I prove myself to you? Why should I stay when I deserve so much more? And that is not being spoiled, that is being realized. If I was spoiled, I probably would already be in a nice home and not only would I have been there from the day I was born, my parent would give me my way ALL the time instead of getting the same for himself.
Which reminds me, what do you mean when you refer to spoiled? Do you mean stubborn? Rich? Because spoiled people in the sense they get things, or aren't afraid to fight for what they want... who are we to say what they deserve? Are people not just hurt that they aren't as realized, that they can't or rather don't allow themselves as many things? Another thing, I am not one who hates the rich simply for being rich.
You can call it whatever you want, I am still not one for avoiding/ignoring such problems, in fact I've considered the situation much more than you have and see leaving, for now, as the most wise and logical decision.
If you want to know what my reasons are, you should do what you should have done in the first place and read my previous posts.
Quote:He ain't gonna care for her because SS is busy creating a little very specific following not based on desperation but hard cash & willingness to become braindead zombies. Maybe it's important to not just sit there & play 'understanding & supportive' if you don't know what kind of support she really needs. And I can tell you that much: Stew ain't the answer.
For SS, again refer to previous posts.
Why should I give any of my obeisances to your opinions when clearly you do not care for me just as you say SS does not, as you have made clear before? And as I might have said before, you don't have my best interest at heart? Quite the opposite you have at heart, it seems!
Starting the thread for support was not on my mind. (But maybe having rotten tomatoes thrown at me was? LOL!) If I needed support this bad, I might get back in contact with my very close, but... er very far friends. Sure many strangers may turn out to be friends, but there is also those like yourself who might come along as well.
Quote:The way she wanted to go about it (to Michigan) was not going anywhere smart OR fast, just running straight into the web of deceit of a less than ethical man who couldn't care less about her if she doesn't have anything that looks like a serious bank a/c to support him & his wife.
For Michigan, as there is much you have seemed to miss, again, if you place any value to what you are saying, please, do refer to previous posts.
Quote:If you want to listen, play mum & sit out, please be my guest, but I'll give it a pass. Either you talk like a decent person or you at least make an effort at real communication but if someone's just rude I don't see why I should waste my time or energy on someone who thinks they know it all & have it all sussed out & know 'what's what' from a known liar & confabulator.
Woah, Nelly! That was a lot in that last paragraph there.
Okay, to flatten it all out, first I don't think eMERGe is playing 'mum' but rather is more about being and preserving what Hyperspace Cafe is supposed to be. A place of wisdom and growing and tough stuff where we help each other, not kick each other until we're flat - and moreover try to convince others of leaving each other on the floor! Eesh, eesh. Unless you want to admit all of that about me was not aimed at eMERGe, but aimed at me or something.
All I kept thinking when I was reading your post was, wow this is just not me. Doesn't feel like me, seem/sound, nothin'. And if it is the true picture I should at least be able to fit it in by feeling it. Or something, being less ignorant and more objective. If anything, especially in that last paragraph, it fits you per usual.
So is that really me, or are you trying to put - and take, everything as worst as possible? Because that's what it
really sounded/felt/seemed like.
If I thought I knew it all, why would I be the least bit interested in spending my time on another thread as I have? Especially considering the topic.
Trying to know "what's what" is exactly what the Discerning Deception thread is about, and Stewart is the first topic. I am still busy at the moment but I would still consider myself as posting on that thread and no, I am not coming from a place of defending Stewart. That would not be discerning objectively as one might be, would it?
Quote:She don't wanna listen. Fine. Gotta do what she's gotta do but not with my support. Just don't come crying when sh*t hits the fan. That's life.
About me not wanting to listen, refer above or to previous posts, or to thread title/whole.
Why would I open myself to such input if it would put me in such a situation that I so desire to ignore? Also if I did not want to listen why did I do all the notes and as one might have noticed more easily, thanked everyone for their suggestions and using their own time?
I did not thank you, (did I?) could that expectancy be why you are so flatulent?
Okay, I thaaaank you for your tiiiime and if you say you just wanted to help beliiiieve me I belieeeeve you also you are granted forgiiiiiiiveness. Are you happy now, or have you already wasted too much time trying to bash me?
I know life can't be sunshine as daisies all the time - and I sure wouldn't come to you as if you were a friend - but life isn't all sunshine & daisies just as life isn't all doom & gloom. Again, you can be cynical but I do not choose to be. I am going to have a good day without letting you ruin it, and I hope a good day (or night for whatever time zone) to you. Best of luck, there are bigger enemies than you or me (if that is what we are) and they are out for the world, so don't let the bastards get you down.
Quote:What's the point of theÃÂ story? Nevertheless sparrow would die one way or another.
This is what I was wondering, but anyway since I read it again it seems it might be more of a subliminal thing of your classic/typical fear for people to conform and obey, hidden behind other morals to shift any conscious, immediate attention. It was a 'non-conforming' sparrow who 'reluctantly' decided to fly south and died. It was too late for now it was too cold thus he found himself fallen into a world of you know what as a bigger animal takes a dump on him so big he can't get out, and finally he meets his own end as the cat eats him. (Note what cats are symbolically.)
Glad it's not for children!
