That is great news Richard,as I was just thinking of contacting Karen.Are most of you aware that there was a 13 sign horoscope? I do the Celtic solar/lunar horoscope which is based on 13 signs.This is like a hobby of mine,but I'm sure that Karen's is way more than what I can get out of this one.
I agree that it will be great to have Karen on board. I had a profile done by her and I thought it was excellent. I think Karen is highly gifted. She talked about the 13 sign horoscope on Expansions but I donââ¬â¢t remember what she said about it. I know she uses the 12 signs. Iââ¬â¢ll have to find that thread on Expansions and post what she said about it.
Well, as a quick update: my mother has left to go back and I did fairly well, only hooked once. My health is already improving. The hyperspace techniques were a life saver.
As I was able to observe the whole interaction from a more "sane" place I saw a lot of triggers that I was able to successfully avoid, and then watch with amazement as she dropped the technique and moved on to a different one. Another thing that was interesting was when I asked her a question about my childhood. We were discussing politics and I asked her if she ever thought there was anything odd about the "program for the gifted" I was put into in 3rd grade. I have always had a lot of questions about this time period in my life and this "class" in particular, and not just about the class but how I was tested and selected for it to begin with. She looked at me very "pointedly"(I guess is the best description, it is a very guarded look that usually means back off) and said "No." I have seen this look before when I have dared ask about grey areas and have had her shut down the conversation this way. I decided to push it further this time and went on, saying that it seems really odd that they would take 5 - 8 kids and brow beat into them everything about "propaganda" and public mind control when we are so surrounded by it all the time. She just looked at me for a long time, then said "The forces of good and the forces of darkness are always at work." Then she wouldn't discuss it further and the weird atmospheric intensity passed. I don't know what that means from her, it doesn't even sound like something she would say, but I guess I got confirmation that I have been right about something happening back then :nod:.
Thanks for all the supportive messages. I appreciated that so much, especially since I am so new here.
Incidentally, while my mother is a scorpio, my dad and I are both cancers and his birthday is the day after mine.
....Maybe I should think about beginning to commence to start keeping an actual deprogramming journal :paranoid:
Woah! Looks like a deprogramming journal is a good idea. :D
Your mother sounds like she knows a lot more than she is willing to say! There seems to be a Mother of Darkness energy in her persoality - which is a level of ritual participation/Monarch programming.
My mother is a Cancerian - I have noticed there is a lot of natural intuition and emotional knowledge associated with this energy.
You are welcome to this forum always. :D It is a good place to be supported in your growth and learning. There is a lot of connections here between people who find themselves facing similar issues at the same time, which also gives power for finding the solutions together to overcome those obstacles.
Hehe - Mine or Haven's ?? I like 'em both! Mine was created when my Oversoul instructed me to draw a lion from my mind, even though I'd never tried one before... :/ It turned out though. :D
I am constructing a visual deprogramming journal, because I can add so much depth of information, and go back and add in new layers. I draw/design on any page at random, so the whole thing is growing as a simultaneous book of knowledge. There are colours, designs, and archetypes that come to me when i am thinking on a subject, dream, or programming issue. I try to fllow the frequency back to it's whole pre-programmed state and translate that on the page. Then, eventually, when i am even better at reading frequencies (LOL) I will e able to nderstand more deeply what I have created. I get a bit frustrated of having notes on different things which get scattered, and out of order from writing. With drawing, I can just go back and add another layer, and allow Oversoul to guide me in creating the entire journal so it flows perfectly.
VioletDolphin: LOL yeah I guess part of me isn't supposed to remember, but I'll take care of that. I started a deprogramming journal a few days ago
I do have a couple of questions.
For starters, I have had ALL of the experiences described in THH chapter on specific programming, and more than once. (My mother even married my dad 3 months after meeting him and was still calling him "Mr. ___" on their wedding night! :shock: )
Should I write down what I can remember of all these past experiences, or wait until something comes up about them through the merger at my pineal, or through the green spiral staircase? (Gee, no WONDER I have spirals ALL OVER all my artwork )
And 2: I am not a big fan of keeping up with a bunch of different journals either, but should the deprogramming journal be totally separate from all other hyperspace stuff? Or do you find it all just blends together?
I don't know about specific programming, but I have been very influenced by the culture as everyone else has been. That alone is something to work on all by itself! ;)
All I know is that several close members of my family have acted as if they were very different personalities at different times and often seemed disassociated from reality at times too. I began to think that they were possessed, even though I knew how crazy that was to think.
Then it came to either believe that or go crazy myself through not trusting what my own eyes and hears showed me. There also were some strange things that have happened to me that I have no answers for. There are also things about my family that fit some of this stuff.
I am also currently too sick to work or be very active and cannot seem to find my way out of that. I am trying to use the deprogramming work to pull anything up that can help me make sense of things.
I had become very discouraged and also very self blaming for not being able to overcome the illness. I am trying to get back into this work.
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