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Montalk 6-17-2025
Astral projection tips:


If your desire is to go from a waking state into an astral projected state, then you absolutely must allow the body to fall asleep while keeping the mind awake.

In other words, you have to fall asleep like you do every night, except not lose awareness.

So you have to enter full sleep paralysis first. You’ll know it’s happening when you feel a sudden wave of warmth, melting, and tingling sweep through your body. This is your subtle energy layer decoupling from the physical.

Upon sleep paralysis, your breathing will also switch to a deeper more automatic mode, potentially snoring if you’re prone to it. It’s helpful to mimic that breathing style going into it, in order to signal to the body that you’re locking into that mode & on the way toward sleep paralysis.

The breathing I’m talking about is a natural rise of the belly/diaphragm that partly expands the ribcage before effortlessly collapsing, then a brief pause before repeating. Watch how someone breathes when they’re deeply asleep.

Only then, in sleep paralysis, can you do the standard OBE exit technique.

Simply relaxing and feeling the occasional itches or tingles isn’t sufficient. And just laying there until your body goes numb from lack of motion, that’s not deep enough either. In fact, you can be in bed for 90 minutes, unable to fall asleep, delirious with boredom & with a body that doesn’t even feel like it’s there anymore. Nope, nice try though. You have to cross the sleep threshold before you can do anything serious.

For some reason, astral projection books & guided meditations skip over this most important step. They just say do progressive relaxation, keep relaxing, and then do some visualizations to induce vibrations. Yeah right, that’s like saying “simply get in the car, get comfortable, and drive” without mentioning you have to first insert/turn the key & then release the parking brake.

Lucid Dream Method
Another way to OBE is to develop the ability to lucid dream. Then in the lucid dream, focus on your body sensations, breathing, and especially your own sense of self-awareness. Since you’re focusing on something other than the dream, you’ll be pulled out of the dream.

Except… note that while dreaming, you’re actually partly OBE already. So when you focus on your body sensations, you’re really shifting attention to the etheric/astral body. Thus you exit the dream while maintaining a mental tether on the etheric/astral body.

So you wake up into that astral projected state instead of fully waking up in the physical body as you normally might. You may find yourself hovering above the body, or be partially exited with torso/head still attached but arms/legs floating like you’re underwater.

From there you can do the standard exit techniques like rolling out, swinging out, rope pull method, and so on.

To recap, either a) reach & surpass the point of sleep paralysis, or b) exit from a lucid dream into an already ongoing OBE state.

Warnings
For the record I don’t recommend astral projection. I just give these tips for anyone who wants to know. IMO, astral projection is too risky unless you really know what you’re doing.

For starters, it can make the soul too loose in the body, which leads to unplanned OBEs, spacey mind, or feeling ungrounded/dissociated.

And you may run into the wrong types of entities. Astral parasites can become entity attachments. Especially if you’re doing unsavory things with them, (really with their projected disguises). Some entities like demons or shadow people can even gang up & try to pull you out & away from the body…

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To understand roles & destinies, you have to accept there’s such a thing as pre-incarnational agreements.

Otherwise we have no freewill & it’s solely god/ETs/archons programming us from blank slates in the womb, and making us play/work with each other in life as if we’re nothing but barbie dolls in some little girl’s playtime.

Eve Lorgen’s “Love Bite” and “Dark Side of Cupid” books get into dark manipulation of human relationships. So some of that’s going on too, but it’s not the only thing happening here. It’s an additional “abnormal parapsychology” layer that not everyone experiences.

The primary layer is beneficial spiritual/metaphysical coordination that puts key people into your life & vice versa, even certain pets that played a vital role for you. Or do you think even your “meant to be” pets were put there by the archons? Come on.

There’s also a fake version of agreements, where negative ETs try to convince you that you should cooperate with them because you already agreed to it. That’s typically a lie.

So I’m talking more about higher/earlier metaphysical coordination between real sentient beings, who incarnate with amnesia (at the level of the lower self) but cross paths as intended (due to connections still active behind the veil).

Paths that cross in higher meaningful ways have crossed before. Otherwise what’s the incentive for poetic, impactful, mutually maturing interaction if there’s no prior history or contact? In context of karma, samsaras, covenants, etc. it’s pretty much guaranteed that such path-crossings happen because of mutual history.

Having a “role” means you have a general task list of what you’d like to accomplish here, and that also includes a character appropriate to the task.

To your basic spiritual character (spiritual wisdom, strength, capacity for discernment, and degree of integrity) is added a costume with personality, genetic, and astrological metrics.

So your astrology profile is part of that costume. That’s why you can use your natal chart to discover clues about your task list, same way you can tell from a vehicle’s style whether it’s meant for off road use or some other role.

If the role is part of a team effort, then everyone has their role in a shared “movie production.” Simplest example is experiencing being in a family or friend circle together.

More complicated example is someone becoming a writer, who is helped by another in the team who heads a publishing company, who gets the book out to several other key individuals, who go on to do things that have even bigger effects.

Due to freewill & interference, not everything goes as planned, but there are “real time” corrections that can happen.

For starters, there are forces behind the veil that watch & nudge. One is the higher aspect of our own psyche, which we supposedly return to (awaken as) during stage 4 deep sleep when the spirit + astral body evacuates the physical & etheric bodies. Steiner talks about this.

From that state, life can be assessed & corrections can be planned. The lower incarnated self can (later in sleep) be informed via subconscious impulses & dreams as a form of correction, or via synchronicities & intuition during the day.

Still, if things go sideways & can’t be corrected, the higher intelligences will work with what they have, given the new circumstances. “It is what it is. Let’s see what we can do with this now.” And so we have to absorb some of the losses & do our best to move on.

The past can’t always be changed, but the future can contain surprising new openings if we stay true to our conscience, wisdom, intuition, and the heart.

Montalk 6-20-2025
Collective Shared Reality


Seems to me that we live in a collective shared reality, otherwise everyone would always get their way & there’d be no winners, losers, violators, or victims.

Examples: people wanting incompatible outcomes for a legal case, election, sports or board game, war, job position, romantic pursuit, etc. There’s a stalemate or winner/loser situation, like two dogs tugging on the same bone.

The outcome involves a mix of factors:

1) Magickal – who has the stronger thoughtforms, psychic powers, and/or subconscious coupling to reality. This is about their ability to directly influence behavior & probability.

2) Metaphysical – who has a higher stake & thus greater priority for this event, per their destiny & karma. Higher beings (if any) overseeing the situation may intervene over this, possibly after some behind-the-scenes negotiations.

3) Physical – which side has superior physical circumstances, skill, power, resources, and strategy. Their actions deterministically sway the outcome.

Since we live in a physical reality, the physical factor tends to dominate. But the magickal & metaphysical factors can be increased through spiritual dedication, training, hygiene, and discipline.

When people enter into combat (any physical zero sum game) you’ll have a mix of these factors, and if the physical factor is the strongest then no amount of magickal or metaphysical influence can counter it.

That’s why we wear seatbelts & helmets, try to eat healthy & exercise, carry a spare tire in the vehicle, own firearms for self-defense, etc.

That’s also why in war, historically there have been enclaves of pure & devout spiritual people who get overrun by the enemy, tortured, hacked to pieces, wiped out. Was it God’s will? Did they not “manifest” enough? Or was it physics dominating per the rules of the game?

This proves that we don’t create our reality 100%, as the other side may have stronger powers.

When such violations happen, maybe karma compensates in this life or the next, but metaphysical forces clearly weren’t able to prevent the violation in the first place. So we can conclude that sometimes sh*t just happens.

But… what if it’s not always a zero sum game? What if one person intends something that doesn’t matter either way to another person, or they’re not even aware of it? Then there’s no conflict.

Quantum physics says that until measured, things are in an open indeterminate state. And since not everyone can be aware of everything all the time, there are un-measured open spots on the timeline up for grabs, even retroactively.

If no one else is aware of it (doesn’t remember it) or it doesn’t matter to them, then someone can plant their flag on this unclaimed part of the timeline & sway the probable future accordingly.

This means we can all “create our reality” in areas of the timeline that don’t conflict with others doing the same.

This is similar to retconning in novels/television, where to advance the plot the writer goes back & re-contextualizes an earlier part of the story or inserts an event there that doesn’t conflict with the plot already written.

When not in “combat,” we can slot our influence into areas of the past/present/future that are still open. We can create our own little corner of reality this way, which ends up being compatible with everyone else likewise creating their corner, and these all tile together into a (mostly) cohesive shared reality. If a conflict arises, things get synchronized through mutual agreement or settled through combat.

The best outcomes happen when you take advantage of the no-conflict fluidity while also covering your bases via magickal, metaphysical, and physical prepping. “Intend for the best, prepare for the worst.”

HiddenDimension
@montalk
Agree:

Quantum physics says that until measured, things are in an open indeterminate state. And since not everyone can be aware of everything all the time, there are un-measured open spots on the timeline up for grabs, even retroactively.

If no one else is aware of it (doesn’t remember it) or it doesn’t matter to them, then someone can plant their flag on this unclaimed part of the timeline & sway the probable future accordingly.

This means we can all “create our reality” in areas of the timeline that don’t conflict with others doing the same.

https://gab.com/montalk/posts/114717288116960652

Montalk 6-25-2025
The Man in the Moon


Robert Moss writes extensively on dreams & astral travel. His book “Mysterious Realities” contains an intriguing chapter called “Conversation with a Daimon of Luna.” Like Robert Monroe, Moss recounts one of his many astral experiences.

The daimon claims to be an astral being helping manage the world of the living. It calls the Moon its home, which sounds strange but connects with the writings of Steiner & Plutarch (whom I will quote in a future post).

There’s mention of Sirius, reincarnation, God, angels, discarnates, dark beings, death & suicide, soul contracts, nonlinear time, Earth as a “cloaked planet,” thoughtforms, and reality as illusion. Make of this what you will. Worth a read.

Source: “Mysterious Realities” by Robert Moss (2018).

Amazon: https://amzn.to/4l87puk

Full excerpt on X:
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- Plutarch wrote that souls come and go constantly through the astral realm of Luna before birth and after death. He was not only a great historian and philosopher but a Mystery initiate, a priest of Apollo at Delphi, and a frequent visitor to the imaginal realm. In short, he probably knew what he was talking about. Plutarch maintained that the moon is the home of daimons — not to be confused with “demons” — including somewhat evolved spirits of the dead who take a close interest in human affairs and are very active in our dreams. Plutarch is great, and still held in great respect by scholars who have taken up residence in this realm. However, a daimon of Luna would like to bring us up to date.

Do you believe in the Man in the Moon?

No, not the face people imagine in the shadows of the craters, which is really the Great Rabbit, or Lunar Hare. Nor do I refer to those artful pictures, ever popular on greeting cards and in children’s stories, that add a nose and a grin and a wink to the crescent moon.

I am speaking of something altogether different. I am inquiring whether you know anything (for worthwhile beliefs can only stem from knowledge) of the beings who live in the moon. I am well aware that since humans in clumsy space suits first walked on the moon, it has been commonly believed to be an astral desert, empty of organic life. This is merely a modern superstition, founded in the confusion of different orders of reality. Beyond appearances, the moon is thickly settled. Its inhabitants do not live on the moon in the way you live on the earth. They cannot be found on the lunar surface, from which astronauts and robots pick rock samples. The lunar population lives in the moon, which is to say, in the Sphere of Luna, a frequency domain located a little — just a little — beyond the realm you can touch and smell and taste with your ordinary senses.

I know what I am talking about, because the moon is my home. If you happen to meet me tonight, because you happen to be looking up at the bright face of the moon from under just the right tree at just the right time, or because you travel to my world on the wings of a dream, it’s quite likely you might see me as the Man in the Moon, or at any rate a man in the moon. I find it generally convenient, in my dealings with humans, to show myself as a human male, taller than average, with what I conceive to be a commanding — though not overbearing — presence, exquisitely tailored in a mode that is rarely encountered on Earth outside Jermyn Street and one or two most particular establishments in Buenos Aires. Yet I must disclose, at the beginning of my tale, that “Man in the Moon” is a misnomer.

I live in the moon, but I am not a man. I am a daimon. I have lived very close to men, so close that I have sometimes forgotten my true identity. But I belong to a different and more ancient order of beings. When you turn to books, you will find the word daimon has several spellings. I prefer the oldest version, an accurate transliteration from the Greek, because the Greeks were close observers of traffic to and from my realm. Their witches — especially in the wild northern reaches — were adept at the dangerous art of drawing down spirits from the moon. The most excellent shaman-philosopher Plutarch studied deep in our academies before he took up permanent residence and joined the faculty of one of our finest schools. Plutarch’s essay on the Sphere of Luna, De facie quae in orbe lunae apparet, remains the best travel guide to our realm outside the closed stacks of the Magic Library.

We know Plutarch well. It is a pity for you that his works are no longer taught in your schools, though he was read too often for what he wrote about tyrants and kings instead of for his essential work, which was all about us. He understood that the moon and the earth are as close as a man and his shadow. He knew that souls come and go constantly through our realm. He observed the descent of mind into the astral body in our dressing rooms, and the return of these energy suits to the suppliers when a traveler was given permission to return to the realm of mind. He watched all the souls that try to ascend to Luna after death and are rebuffed because they are dirty or confused. He saw souls that made it here, but who had reneged on their commitments, hurled from our ramparts through the black hole of Hecate. Do you know that great goddess’s scary sister, Melinoe? No? Well, be thankful if she does not visit you in the night with her train of spooks and nightmares.

Do please be careful with the word daimon now that it is in the air, darting around you on dragonfly wings. Words have the power to call things into manifestation and bring creatures from one world into another. You don’t want to say daimon out loud the wrong way; this can produce unpleasant effects, and sometimes unwanted visitors. I prefer to hear it pronounced die-mon, so it almost sounds like diamond, an elegant homonym. Day-mon is an acceptable alternative version. To call me a demon, on the other hand, would be extremely rude, as thoughtless as calling a man whose chosen name is Robert “Bob,” and likely to produce more adverse effects than a frown and a growl. I did not mind being called a demon in demotic Greek in the age of Cleopatra, but since then a fog of fear and confusion spread by the morbid imaginations of the Dark Ages has made that version quite unusable.

Humans ask, across the soiled and bloodied centuries of their struggles, “Where was God?” The answer is quite simple, but impossible for devotees of a Solo Deity with a personal face to acknowledge. The One is everywhere, in everything, but does not intervene in human affairs. The Many do intervene, or interfere, quite frequently. They are a mixed bag. They bring both healing and harm. Some operate quite selflessly, out of compassion. Some have specific agendas, and require corresponding payoffs, care, and feeding. Some are agents of their orders, or of the interests of rival planetary intelligences competing for influence on the earth plane.

Cicero, that mellifluous skeptic, was correct (in the main) when he wrote that there are three things for humans to know about the gods: They exist. They take a close interest in mortal affairs. And they cannot be bribed.

The bribable entities are a gross and vulgar band, much sought after by the filthiest type of sorcerers.

I cannot be bribed, of course, but I am capable of being seduced. You should know that daimons fall in love, even as humans do.

We have a low boredom threshold. Our active help is engaged by those who live passionately and creatively, who burn with bright fire and move through life as shooting stars. We are called to those who take on impossible tasks, who leap over the abyss trusting that the bridge will appear or the wings unfold. Those we love make poetry of life. They tango with the emperor penguins, in the Antarctic gales, to keep the eggs warm while new life breaks through. They are travelers who always go beyond the road maps.

Maps are made of their journeys, and they use them to light fires in dark love nests, because they are already taking to the road from the place where their last journey ended.

I am willing to entertain questions, but be careful what you ask for.

- How did I get here?

I can hear the words rattling round in your mind. You haven’t been asking that question nearly enough. You open your door in a city and find yourself on top of a mountain, sometimes in your car, sometimes in a different body. You are watching a film, and you step through the screen and become one of the actors engaged in the drama. You think of a distant place, and the next moment you are there.

You have been here many times before, between many lives, but humans are forgetful animals. Part of you woke up from your walking sleep down there. But you would not have found me had I not found you first.

I have a question for you. Where is your body now?

I see this makes you a little dizzy. You see chasms opening below you, yes? But really it’s not such a long drop. Take a look, but don’t drop out of this conversation yet. There are many things you need to see and remember.

- You call yourself a daimon. What about angels?

I am very glad to see so many humans writing and talking of angels. In this way, they acknowledge the existence of my kind, even if they often mistake our nature and functions.

If you must make distinctions, you could say that my kind have generally come up, while angels have generally come down. It is not a matter of dark or light, or of good and evil. There are dark angels, and there are very bright daimons.

- I have heard that spirits transit this realm on the way to physical birth. Are there conditions for taking on a human body? Is a contract made before a soul goes down?

You don’t get born into a human body without formalities. Everyone who is born on Earth has entered into a contract. A typical contract specifies the allotment of time-energy available to you in the life form you are entering. Time-energy is a package, not two different things. In the Assyrian language, we have a precise term: shimtu. The exact length of the life you are given may vary according to how carefully, or recklessly, you expend this time-energy. Living in balance, averaging a gentle cruising speed, you may manage a hundred years; treat your body like a hot rod and you can go to the junkyard early.

The life contract does not give ironclad protection against the events insurance companies call “acts of God,” or against criminal interference.

You may end your life prematurely. This is a serious contractual violation that has unhappy consequences, though not the eternal damnation invented by some churchmen. Suicide is never part of a life contract. However, facing conditions that may tempt you to destroy yourself is quite often an important clause.

The allotment of time-energy is one of the two key elements in the contract. The other is the definition of the life assignment you have agreed to undertake.

Contrary to appearances, everyone born into a human body has agreed to their situation, though not everyone has the same degree of choice, and the choices that are made are often ill-considered.

One of the greatest acts of memory is to recall the terms of your life contract and who you were and where you were when you entered into it.

- Who lives on Luna?

Permanent residents in my realm are few, though some of us live here for millennia by human counting.

We receive dreamers and soul travelers in vast numbers.

We are a transit lounge for spirits on their way to incarnation on Earth, and for ex-physicals who come up from the sublunar planes. Some of those admitted to this realm after death on Earth find solace for ages in our pleasure palaces and studios before they are ready for another death and another birth. Some pursue their studies in our schools, where many things are created and discovered before they manifest on Earth. Some become interpreters and teachers for physicals.

- What is the work of these teachers?

It centers on the Art of Memory. Among humans, the most effective way to practice this is through dream recall and dream reentry. The memory of a dream is the memory of a journey. It may have been a short visit to a neighbor’s house or the place you will find yourself on Tuesday next week. It may have been a far journey, to a distant galaxy or a vast dimension enfolded inside a pearl a hundred million billion times smaller than human instruments can detect in earth reality. Perhaps you were drawn here, to the Sphere of Luna, to study or to play in this realm.

So often the dream fades, or you abandon it, not trusting your memory. But when you hold to the dream, or let it gently return, a road opens before you. Move toward the dream space, and you travel between the worlds. Step fully inside the dream, and you are home, in its world.

- Do you have a special language?

Only the most ancient among us still communicate in the language that Tehuti took to the land of Kem after he withdrew his light from the doomed temple of Atlantis. But we continue to use glyphs the lector-priests of Kem would recognize for our records.

As an interpreter, I am required to be fluent in all human thought-forms.

- I have heard it said that Earth is now a cloaked planet, that the darkness around it makes it difficult for higher intelligences to get through to humans.

We are close to Earth here, as close as your dreams. But, as in your world, there are contending forces. Since the channels to Sirius have been disrupted, the Sirian ambassador often calls on me to translate messages for beings on the earth plane, and to arrange safe delivery. This of course means that I am now haunted by Ileaxu spies. We are a cockpit of intrigue, and every galactic power tries to push us from our neutrality.

- It seems the Sirian connection is very important.

It holds the secret of the origin and purpose of the experiment with consciousness on Earth.

- Who are the Ileaxu?

Forces inimical to human life. They seed chaos. You see their effects in places of power in your world. Be watchful. You may not know them yet, but they know you.

- Are there Sirian envoys at work on Earth?

I will say nothing on this. But I can show you a memo prepared by another agency:

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DETECTING A SIRIAN EMISSARY ON TERRA

1. Their auras are light blue, rising to a point 15-20 cm above the head.

2. They have a concealed “third eye,” resembling a blue crystal, above and between the physical eyes.

3. They love water and can stay underwater longer than normal humans.

4. Dolphins recognize them and approach them spontaneously.

5. Dogs are drawn to them, and they are often found in the company of black dogs.
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- What can you tell me about parallel lives?

For the most part, humans inhabit time as a Lineland, a one-dimensional realm in which movement is possible only in relentless forward motion. Some humans are obscurely aware that in this forward motion they come to forks at which parallel times — and parallel worlds — split off. Only the rarest among them have been able to grasp that they are engaged with time like children in an elaborate jungle gym, with ladders and crosswalks that can take you to a different structure, swinging ropes that can fold distance, and chutes and ladders that can rocket you back to a point before the one where you started.

This is of course a preposterous simplification, since the maze is multidimensional, a Calabi-Yau environment rather than a jungle gym, and within it you encounter — and may be drawn into — other people’s looping timelines.

Yes, you are living now in one of many parallel worlds. In some of those parallel realities, you have been living here with us, as a permanent resident, for many years.

- You mean there are parallel worlds where I am already dead?

Why else is all of this so familiar to you? Why else would I talk to you? You understand, better than those who imagine that they are confined to a physical body, that your dreams are often glimpses of continuous lives you are living somewhere else.

- How long do spirits remain in the realm of Luna after physical death?

Let’s be clear that this is a gated community. You don’t get in without paying your dues. There are many who are rejected at the gate, and some we have to throw out. They fall back into the astral slums below us that the Greeks called Hades.

Some discarnates spend the equivalent of many, many lifetimes here. They enjoy the social environment, they study and teach in our schools, they practice reality creation. Some become mentors and oracles for people on Earth. Some serve as messengers, zephyrs who carry dreams to sleepers.

If you earn the right to go higher, and choose to do that, you are given a new outfit, and you are required to leave your current vehicle behind. When you take off your astral body, you don’t want to leave it lying around for anyone else to pick up. Depending on the quality, that could be like leaving a fur coat on the street. Someone is going to pick it up. Even if your threads are worn, they might be attractive to a passing spirit that wants to put on a new guise, or impersonate you, as a prank or for deliberate deception.

We have locker rooms where you can check your astral body as you would check your street clothes on the way to the gym.

Few of the graduates who leave astral bodies in these lockers will wish to retrieve them. Now equipped with celestial bodies — which don’t fit over or under an astral suit — they know the joy of liberation from lesser forms and the appetites and cravings that go with them.

However, there are other uses for left-behind astral bodies. In the Messenger Service, some couriers are licensed to use these outfits in their encounters with people down below. So the deceased lover or father who visits a survivor could be that person, dropping by in the astral body — or an actor who has dressed up in that guise.

The actors or guisers should not be confused with the deceivers and thieves who hijack astral bodies for malign purposes. Their operations have sown much confusion and darkness.

- Is reincarnation for real?

There is reincarnation, and then there is body-hopping. Don’t get them mixed up. Reincarnation is what happens when a soul chooses to be born again in a different body after going through a process of cleanup, life review, and atonement. It takes time, although time works quite differently on the Other Side. It can’t be rushed. A soul on the road of rebirth must rise to the understanding that there is karma from the previous life to be worked off, and that its new life situation is connected to what is going on with other members of its soul group. Before the descent into the amniotic lake, the reincarnating soul will be allowed to preview available life options. It will be given a glimpse of the place where it will be born, the parents who will provide the physical vehicle, and some (not all) of the episodes it will live on this possible event track.

We are not talking — yet — about the criminal souls. They will try to avoid entering the bardo realms for fear of having to face the consequences of their actions. They will rush through the first door that opens into any shady environment on the lower astral plane to hang out with their kind and repeat the things they enjoyed in life.

Let us move on to what the Greeks called metempsychosis. I prefer the muscular English expression body-hopping. You know this takes place in dreams. You find yourself in the body of a different person, perhaps a person of a different race or gender or social group. Remember your dreams of being in the body of the black basketball player (who was also a sexual athlete) and then the Dan Quayle body out on a golf course? Body-hopping dreams like these expand your humanity. You feel what it is like to live in someone else’s skin. They also closely resemble the life-review options that are provided for those who have passed beyond the Plane of Recollection and are in the process of choosing a new life.

Now listen closely. When a soul avoids the bardo states and transfers directly from one body to another, its motives and condition may be splendid — even salvific — or very evil, or mixed.

- Can I trust you?

I don’t know everything. Omniscience is another department. I can assess probabilities. I can see across time and space, but even mortals can do that when they move beyond the superstition that their minds are locked up in their bodies and brains.

I am not infallible. There: I’ve said it. I hasten to add that even the Sirian ambassador makes mistakes. We are very far from perfection in the Sphere of Luna.

- I would like to know your name.

I don’t care what you call me, any more than your cat does. If the Man in the Moon seems too generic, or too much like something from the nursery, you can call me Polycrates. Look it up later if you must. We are constantly disappointed that you have forgotten your Greek. You swam in that language once like an olive in a jar of oil. I lived in many bodies in your world, and in a sense I still do, since I am required to check in with a number of people who are now my cases rather than my avatars. I am not your Higher Self, nor your genius. I am what I am: a daimon of Luna. I do send dreams to you, like moonbeams shining through your window. Sometimes, when you feel their touch, they become tractor beams, pulling you up into my realm.

You would not have found me if I had not been looking for you. You are here to remember, but you are going to see things you have not seen before, in any life, because we are changing faster than you could imagine. Constancy is not our forte in the realm of Luna.

Look at your earth from here. So very near, and so beautiful. But wait a moment.

- I look, from your perspective. I see great ragged clouds, ranging in color from black to sickly quince, rolling across the earth. There are forms within them, ceaselessly swirling, like giant tumbleweeds, each composed of faces contorted with rage and pain. Cruel, misshapen beings move among them, goading.

This is why we call your world the Cloaked Planet. Your minds are occluded by the rushing thought-forms of those who were possessed by raging emotions and now seek to possess others. They are joined by entities that feed on violence. Some of these have never had human histories. Some are inimical to humans.

Early humans, who lived closer to the time when the Link was formed, had a clearer understanding of where in the worlds you are. You live in an animate universe that is thickly populated with other forms of life and consciousness. These are generally invisible to you when you are in the physical body. What is it the Maya say? That when the gods succeeded in making men that could walk and talk and say thank-you to their makers, they became very worried when they saw that they had unintentionally given humans something approaching omniscience — that the two-leggeds they had made could see to and through all of Earth-Sky. So the gods decided to cloud the vision of humans. The gods breathed on the mirror of human minds. Picture acid rain coming down, or a good old Beijing smog. So humans go around in the equivalent of a London pea-souper from the heyday of coal.

- And this is why you call Earth the Cloaked Planet?

That’s not the half of it. Look up at the stars. Tell me what you see.

- I see the Big Dipper. Wow, I can see the belt of Orion too. I didn’t know you could find them in the sky at the same time. And Cygnus the Swan, is that right? I’m not very good at identifying constellations.

The stars care even less what you call them than I do. Humans look up and project different shapes and names, according to their imaginations, and then their descendants go on repeating those names through lack of imagination. There is what calls you, yes?

- You point to the blue star. I am overcome, for a moment, by that deep longing, compounded of memory and desire, that the Portuguese call saudade.

Yes, you feel it deeply. The yearning for home. This is known to any of your kind who are not completely anesthetized and have not descended to the level of brutes. But hold your emotion for a moment. This is what you need to see.

- The daimon reaches his arm up into the air. He pushes out a forefinger, apparently pointing out some pattern among the stars. Then he pinches his forefinger and thumb together, as if gathering fabric. With a gentle but determined motion, he pulls. The whole starry sky ripples, and an opening appears, as when the edge of a curtain is pulled back, just a little, to get a glimpse of the street. Through the gap, I see another dark sky, glinting with other stars. The daimon releases his grip, and the curtain is closed. I tell him:

You are a great illusionist. For a moment I thought you could actually roll up the night sky.

That is the illusion.

- He gestures at the veil of the starry sky.

Montalk 6-27-2025
God created you


God created you so that he’d have someone to believe in.

Here’s what I mean:

    Consciousness precedes matter, therefore we (our core of awareness) didn’t appear accidentally from mechanical processes. Hence, we were created by primordial consciousness, the first being the Creator by definition.

    Quantum physics proves there are no deterministic hidden variables, and so nondeterminism exists. Since our brains operate on quantum principles, we are nondeterministic beings. That means we have freewill (even without bodies).

    Since we have freewill, not even “God” can know every choice we’ll make, else it would be predetermined & no longer nondeterministic.

    We are therefore an endless source of novelty & experience. If nothing else, that alone would motivate a singular primordial consciousness to project & experience multiplicity. To see what happens next, to explore infinite potential in an infinite variety of ways.

    Since we derive from the Creator, our inner godspark carries its divine essence. This part of us is therefore good.

    But due to freewill, the Creator can’t know precisely when, where, or how that core of goodness will triumph over adversity during its journey toward self-actualization.

    Since the observing Creator must recognize that we have the potential for goodness within us (as that potential is of its own nature) then it must have hope — if not full confidence — that some how, some when, these godsparks will finish their journey & return home. In other words, the Creator believes in us.

    Therefore, “God created us so that he’d have someone to believe in.” This implies individual outcomes are unknown, but watched with curiosity, confidence, and love.

Skeleton Soldier
@montalk Very close to what I am working on. I posit that we are created so that we may create in turn. The entire system becomes a fractal harmonious multi-dimensional co-creation, at least until evil and pride enter the equation, and in order for it to be a free system that must always be a real option, even if it pains the Creator, else we're all happy puppets.

mpcristobal89
@montalk You didn't know this but I experimented on myself with various different bio-fields and experienced A LOT of formats for structures of consciousness for evolutionary and educational purposes.. my vision was spherical in one of those jumps through hyperspace..I temporarily had the entire knowledge base typed on my iMac - when the desktop got too full I'd delete everything then continue typing and repetitively. My mom took away my antidepressants. I went into a coma multiple times from fentanyl (compensated with tobacco and caffeine) addiction. Chico from the maximum security prison directly south of Napa State Hospital put the pill in my mouth while unconscious - the staff gives forced medication there; someone concealed it under their tongue to transport it. He deserved it.

I temporarily temporarily grew into something like a incredibly genetically diversified super biofield organism like a forest where the trees have interconnected roots.. I don't know how to describe this correctly.. I was experiencing (about 17..18 years) before I came to this planet but was typing in 2011 and theres alot of inconsistencies of the normal mode of operandums of how this life system I live in is supposed to operate.

Even the all the manga characters had simulated biofields but maybe not a spirit. I G.M.O.ed myself to fit in because of the opportunity to learn.. There was even a simulation scenario special bookstore with additional content that I don't find any existance of it here.. Who was that guy from my hero academia that sees the future? This guy in the book was a very powerful multi purpose specialist with powers of telepathy - think the Scooby Doo soul cauldron from the movie placed in hawaii.. To explain the multi-generational incarnatioal amnesia whilst bifurcating the modular containers spirits across different places in the multi-domain reality system.

Sadly this aquired super-organism of bio-fields (which was me) is frozen

The Novel Marrow by Robert Reed.. The book didn't really describe the technology when I re-read it a 2nd time. A group Commissioned Officers of the sphereworld developed novel organs because they had to live in the harsh radiation of space. a type of mind machine interface.. A man wanted to mutate into a 'plant'.

I ask myself and whatever sober thoughtforms attached (at this time) to my shared thinking space again and again.

I don't tolerate Nazis or the diablos type volcano kaiju from fantasia.. there's a difference between using lava (energy weapons) to create relief in life and to enforce SALT treaties with - than using it for a neverending war.. I really wish I can make enough of it to defend ourselves.
If something happens I may want to try to resolve it solely by myself..

Like I said, if the devil is learnt enough to be able to invest embezzeled loosh in higher and higher grade energy weapons research and development then there needs to be preventative measures for this..It needs to be frozen ASAP. Of the holographic web of possibilities and multi-domain reality system, All vectors (leading to this) need to be closed
I need to work toward the revival and recovery of those with spiritual atrophy (still buried by volcanic activity). But I don't think I'm being given an opportunity to do above ~=1,786,000%.

(in a tesseract I only felt 8 spaces with each one having modified pain regions at an intensity called 1 unit regulated by some type of matter but 17,000 would feel like quadrillions of spaces at 1 unit blast welded together)

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Montalk 6-28-2025
On Christianity


On Christianity, I’ll write this once, so that I can refer to it going forward whenever the question comes up.

I was baptized German Evangelical but grew up in a non-dogmatic household. Since my teens I’ve been reading the Bible & studying Christian thinking. In high school I’d watch the Jack van Impe show. My college plasma physics professor/boss carried a little New Testament in his back pocket.

The majority of the people I respect & love happen to be Christians. My mom was a devout Christian and I helped edit & publish her books, which were inspirational teachings given to her by the Holy Spirit. She had numerous legit supernatural experiences that reinforced her faith.

Even so, my Christian views are heretical because:

1) I studied the historical/archeological origins of the Bible, and therefore believe it’s a mix of truth, fabrication, and superstition rather than the sole infallible word of God,

2) I read too much of other religions & philosophies that square with experience & logic better than some aspects of Christian dogma, and

3) I therefore interpret the Bible in terms of everything, instead of everything in terms of the Bible.

So I had to ask myself: am I committed to truth above all else, or do I prefer a convenient ready-made package that contains a mix of valuable spiritual truths & unfortunate lies? What mattered more:

a) figuring things out, solving problems, and understanding reality as it actually is, even if it’s demoralizing at times, or

b) seeking the moral support of feeling loved, accepted, saved, and protected, even if it’s based on some dubious assumptions?

Because if the latter, then truth/facts don’t matter as much, and can be ignored or re-contextualized as needed. Once you find your Truth, you stop being an objective truth-seeker. You got what you needed most, but it now limits/distorts everything else. This can be said for any religious adherent or cult member, including New Agers.

But if the first, if truth matters more, then it’s the lies/inaccuracies of the belief system in question that must be ignored, corrected, or re-contextualized in order to make the best of them.

Some Christian authors do this by selecting the most important verses & interpreting them in a higher context. For instance, Christian Science (not that I’m endorsing it) at least gets the part right about how our subconscious interfaces with reality, and it’s our duty as fragments of the Creator to acknowledge this & take responsibility for it.

This means you can be a Christian located right at the boundary, closest to the rest of the truth outside that field. And you might select & interpret Bible passages according to the highest understanding you can muster. Then you can quote it, speak the lingo, converse with fellow Christians, be part of that family, all while operating from an enlightened context. Thereby you inject truth & life back into an ossified husk, shake people out of their dogmatic slumber. I think that’s the highest service a Christian can do these days.

That said, while I believe in a cosmic metaphysical Christ & the divine emanation known as the Holy Spirit, I also believe that the Great Apostasy, which is the turning away of Christianity from the teachings of Christ, started with the very penning of the Gospels, which from my research were Greek/Roman propaganda pieces that nevertheless contained fragments of the original teachings. I seek something even purer & closer to the source than the Gospels. I guess you could say I’m an ultra-ultra-fundamentalist.

IMO, Christ must be rescued from Christianity, from what it’s become. “If God wrote the Bible, then Satan was the editor.” Historically that’s true, as many dirty hands were involved in the writing of the Old & New Testaments. Read Silberman & Finkelstein’s “The Bible Unearthed” or Friedman’s “Who Wrote the Bible?” for an overview.

Truth must be extracted & reconstructed not per one’s emotional needs, but per critical thinking, extra-Biblical research, and most importantly with the aid of what Christians call the Holy Spirit or what the Allies of Humanity call Knowledge, which acts as a metal detector (objective intuition) that sniffs out what’s B.S. vs. what’s truth.

I find it interesting that Christians can be so ardent about their interpretation of scripture even though they all contradict each other & have split into countless denominations & sects. It’s their right to do so, but not their right to persecute their brethren over splitting of hairs.

So either you find your place within that mix & settle into something that fits your needs, or you take the long & brutal road of seeking every puzzle piece from every corner of existence, in order to attain an objective understanding of spirituality, reality, and history that withstands scrutiny.

HiddenDimension
@montalk Nice write up you heretic, lol. I have two long time friends with big families fully devoted to Jesus. The transformation occurred while we were friends and I was quietly concerned about them while they were going through it. Then, I thought, is there something wrong with me? Why don't I have this profound experience. It just didn't happen that way for me. About 30 years ago, I thought if there really is evil in this world then there must be some spiritual protection and a savior for humans. Let's see if I can find legit evil in this world. Mind you back then it wasn't as obvious and most people weren't thinking about their spiritual welfare. A lot has been revealed in the last 5-10 years. The mask is off and humanity is being taunted and toyed with.

mpcristobal89
@montalk It's a very, very bad idea for me to think this.. n33ding to do something about it when I heard of knuth's trident energy weapons.. I got 'catered to' with the puzzle presentation. My hands typed it, I teleport (mentally) when I think across the experienced presentations Including before I was in this physicality. It's not completely forgotten due to complex entrophy disorders (Cushman and Wakefield- google Mike Nevins - it's an interestingly worded webpage - distressed assets).. My soul isn't sober right now until I get some help when I move across hyperspace..

I recently had a dream at a (dance - like the last few days of school where your're duty free).. Time froze while I was talking to some girl. I must have developed the superhuman artifacts at some time in frozen space to time travel and match the ark space and time back to this reality. In the dream I had a long time thinking about her while doing this - I know, a twin flame. I teleported into a different mode of experiential operands (Operation strands).. I was a very highly regarded doctor - In a white lab coat. the next sets of operandums was being a soldier in military warfight.. there was an artillergun on the right and a vehicle used for retreat on the left - 3 other guys there. I was a religious leader.. There was an etheric feeling of moving to the right..
There was some Author's commentary I cant remember

A South Park special skit - Stan Cartman and Kyle
There's no way to avoid it
This is after you die
We'll show you what happens in just a second.
It's got to be.
This is what you do.
(They walked to the right with the camera following- then offscreen - Days before while awake I was thinking to myself "Is anything I am thinking of leftist..")

I was a human female. I was under the impression I had an abdomen like a bug.
"You're a queen".. I was walking into a pod kind. It's the one some alien faction uses to freeze you in.. It's the one from the Simpsons episode about Bledsoe, Homer fucked up on the operator's control board. Bush and Clinton

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Montalk 6-29-2025
Plutarch


Plutarch (46 - 120 A.D.) was a Greek mystic, philosopher, and historian. The Daimon of Luna said, “Plutarch’s essay on the Sphere of Luna (…) remains the best travel guide to our realm outside the closed stacks of the Magic Library.”

His essay is titled, “Concerning the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon.”

It’s an amusing debate among Greek philosophers on the nature of the Moon. Each explanation is sillier than the next, until Plutarch drops a bomb with the final speaker, Sylla, who relays some mind-blowing information told to him by a stranger.

The stranger had studied for 30 years at a mystery school on the island of Ogygia (possibly the Faroe Islands or further west) located near the Arctic Circle, about five days’ sail northwest from Britain. The Ogygians worshipped the titan Cronus who ruled during the Golden Age and was overthrown by Zeus.

After becoming an adept, the stranger left the island to travel the known world, spending some years in Carthage, a major city in North Africa founded by the Phoenicians. There, he discovered an ancient parchment containing esoteric knowledge that added to what he learned on Ogygia regarding the Moon & the afterlife.

The excerpt below is Sylla recounting what the stranger told him about what he learned.

This text is long & dense, so I’ll reply to this post with a Grok summary. But my comments in brackets help decode what’s being discussed, and anyone interested should find them illuminating.

Source: “Concerning the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon” by Plutarch (~75+ A.D.)

Link: https://atlanticreligion.com/2014/03/08/...tic-north/
Alternate translation: https://archive.org/details/plutarchonfa...2/mode/2up

Full Text with (commentary) on X: https://x.com/TomMontalk/status/1939503728672837701

Grok Summary in reply below

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Montalk
Grok AI bullet point summary:

- Plutarch, a Greek mystic and philosopher (46-120 A.D.), explores the Moon’s nature and its role in the afterlife through his essay, which includes a debate among philosophers and a narrative from a stranger trained in a mystery school.

- The human being is a composite of three parts: body (from Earth), soul (from the Moon), and mind/spirit (from the Sun), challenging the simpler two-part (body and soul) view.

- The soul is an interfacing layer made of etheric and astral components, distinct from the mind/spirit, which is considered more divine and the seat of reason and free will.

- Earth contributes the physical body, which is reclaimed upon physical death, a process associated with the goddess Demeter and termed the “first death.”

- The Moon, associated with the goddess Persephone (also called Cora), generates and reclaims the astral body, playing a central role in the afterlife and the “second death” where the mind separates from the soul.

- The Sun provides the mind/spirit, which is linked to reason, virtue, and cosmic unity-consciousness, and is reclaimed after the soul’s dissolution.

- After physical death, souls wander in the region between Earth and Moon (etheric and astral planes), with the duration and experience depending on their moral state.

- Unjust or impure souls face penalties in lower astral purgatories (Hades), while good souls undergo a cleansing process in the “meadows of Hades” before progressing.

- The “second death” occurs when the mind/spirit separates from the astral body, leaving it on the Moon, which then decomposes, allowing the spirit to ascend to cosmic realms.

- The Moon is described as a composite of earth and star, endowed with soul and fertility, and serves as a boundary or intermediary realm between Earth and higher spiritual planes.

- Lunar eclipses are linked to the movement of souls, with the Moon’s “face” and “Gulf of Hecate” serving as areas where souls undergo retribution or transition.

- Reincarnation occurs (among other reasons) when restless or passionate souls, still attached to earthly desires, are drawn back to Earth, sometimes prematurely, affecting the reincarnation process.

- Souls that achieve self-mastery and virtue receive “crowns of constancy” and ascend further, nourished by lunar vapors (higher astral energies), suggesting a purification and strengthening process.

- Nonphysical beings (e.g., spirits from the Moon) can intervene in earthly affairs (e.g., oracles, mysteries), but may incur karma and reincarnate if they act improperly.

- The afterlife includes an Elysian plain (heavenward side of the Moon) and a plain of Persephone Antichthon (earthward side), reflecting different stages or states of the soul.

- The Sun’s light and influence are tied to the mind/spirit’s ascent, with love for the solar image facilitating the final separation of mind from soul.

- The Fates (Atropos, Clotho, Lachesis) are associated with the Sun, Moon, and Earth, respectively, overseeing the generation, combination, and physical manifestation of human life.

- The astral body retains traces of its former life and can influence reincarnation, with the Moon acting as a repository for these imprints.

- Spiritual training and transcendence of bodily passions are emphasized as key to navigating the afterlife successfully and avoiding entrapment in cycles of rebirth.

- Montalk’s commentary integrates these ideas with modern esoteric traditions (e.g., Theosophy, Anthroposophy) and suggests the Moon’s role as a receiver of astral emanations aligns with broader metaphysical frameworks.

Excerpt (with my commentary in brackets):

“Many tales, Sylla, are told among the Greeks about the gods, but not all are well told. For instance, although they give the right names to Demeter (goddess of grain & harvest, daughter of Cronus) and Cora (queen of the underworld, daughter of Cronus, alternate name for Persephone), they are wrong in believing that both are together in the same region. The fact is that the former (Demeter) is in the region of earth and is sovereign over terrestrial things, and the latter (Cora/Persephone) is in the moon and mistress of lunar things.

The moon has been called both Cora and Persephone, Persephone because she gives light, Cora because we also use the same Greek word for the pupil of the eye, in which the image of the beholder flashes back, as sunlight is seen reflected from the moon.

In the stories told about their wanderings and the search there is an element of truth. They yearn for one another when parted, and often embrace in shadow.

(The Moon is “embraced by the Earth” during lunar eclipses when Earth’s shadow graces it).

And what is told of Cora — that she is sometimes in heaven and in light, and again in night and darkness — is no untruth; only time has brought error into the numbers, for it is not during six months, but at intervals of six months, that we see her received by the earth, as by a mother, in the shadow, and more rarely at intervals of five months (lunar eclipses happen twice per year on average, rarely three times); for to leave Hades is impossible to her, who is herself a ‘boundary of Hades,’ as Homer well hints in the words, “Now to Elysian plains, earth’s utmost bound.”

For where the shadow of the earth rests in its passage, there Homer placed the limit and boundary of earth.

(Earth’s physical shadow is conflated in this text with the “shadow” of the living/incarnated realm, i.e. the ghostly etheric/astral realms).

To that limit comes no man that is bad or impure, but the good after death are conveyed thither, and pass a most easy life, not, however, a life blessed or divine until the second death.

(The second death is the eventual dissolution of the etheric & astral bodies after physical death. The stranger is saying that bad or impure souls don’t make it to the Moon, i.e. to the furthest boundary of the Earth’s shadow. But those who are sufficiently good & pure, do make it to the Lunar sphere where they have an easy life as astral beings. This life, however, isn’t blessed or divine since they still have their astral bodies, thus their Earthly personalities. The daimon (and others like Rudolf Steiner) have said that only after they drop these astral bodies, do such beings pass beyond the Moon into the spiritual cosmic realms as divine beings made purely of mind/spirit).

But what is that, Sylla? Ask me not of these things, for I am going to tell you fully myself.

The common view that man is a composite creature is correct, but it is not correct that he is composed of two parts only. For they suppose that mind is in some sense a part of soul, which is as great a mistake as to think that soul is a part of body; mind is as much better a thing and more divine than soul, as soul is than body.

(This is critical to understand. We’re not composed of mind + body, but rather mind/spirit + soul + body. The spirit is as ephemeral to the soul as soul is to the body. The soul is an interfacing layer made of etheric & astral components. All these layers go their separate ways via the first & second deaths).

Now the union of soul with body makes up the emotional part (astral feelings/passions + biochemical hormones/emotions), the further union with mind produces reason, with the former being the origin of pleasure and pain, the latter of virtue and vice. (Virtue & vice originating with the proper or improper use of freewill, hence originating with the mind/spirit which is the core of volition).

When these three principles (soul, body, mind) have been compacted, 1) the earth contributes body to the birth of man, 2) the moon soul, and 3) the sun reason just as he contributes light to the moon.

(In Sanskrit, the physical body is called “annamaya kosha” meaning “sheath made of food.” Earth contributes and reclaims this. Meanwhile, the Moon creates and reclaims the astral body. (The etheric body comes from Earth’s etheric environment, not the Moon’s; Plutarch/stranger don’t distinguish between etheric & astral, but that’s a detail later mystics figured out. As for the Sun, it emanates and receives the mind/spirit. Hence, the term “solar logos,” or the Law of One books referring to the Sun as the logos of our solar system, or ancient Aryan sun-worship indicating their affinity for reason).

The death which we die is of two kinds; the one makes man two out of three (body drops away, leaving soul + mind/spirit), the other makes him one out of two (soul drops away, leaving mind/spirit); the one takes place in the earth which is the realm of Demeter, and is initiation unto her, so that the Athenians used in ancient times to call the dead “Demetrians;” the other is in the moon and is of Persephone; (…)

Demeter parts soul from body quickly and with force (physical death is swift); Persephone parts mind from soul gently and very slowly (in the astral planes), and therefore has been called “Of the Birth to Unity,” for the best part of man is left in oneness, when separated by her.

(The discarding of the astral body leads toward a state of cosmic unity-consciousness, which is the spirit’s natural form of awareness).

Each process happens according to nature, as thus: it is appointed that every soul, irrational or rational, when it has quitted the body, should wander in the region between earth and moon (the etheric & astral planes), but not all for an equal time.

Unjust and licentious souls pay penalties for their offenses; but the good souls must in the gentlest part of the air, which they call “the meadows of Hades,” pass a certain set time sufficient to purge and blow away the pollutions contracted from the body, as from an evil odor.

(After physical death, the soul goes through a reckoning, purging, or cleansing process. This takes shorter or longer “time,” and is easier or harder, depending on the soul’s degree of trauma, addiction, corruption, etc. or virtue, spirituality, peace.

Some souls become earthbound, never moving past the etheric plane. Some end up in lower astral purgatories (Hades) if they’re too troubled. Those who are sufficiently “with it” enter the healing/decompression parts of the astral planes, i.e. the “meadows of Hades.”

This all matches modern NDE/afterlife studies and the beliefs of Theosophy & Anthroposophy).

(After the cleansing/purging process) then they return as from long and distant exile back to their country; they taste such joy as men feel here who are initiated, joy mingled with much amazement and trouble, yet also with a hope which is each man’s own.

For many who were already grasping at the moon, she pushes off and washes away, and some even of those souls which are already there and are turning round to look below are seen to be plunged again into the abyss.

(In other words, souls on their way up the astral planes may get rebuffed if they’re still too troubled, or even if they just arrived there, they can get “fascinated” if they’re not careful and get drawn back down).

But those which have passed above, and have found firm footing, first go round like victors wreathed with crowns of feathers called “crowns of constancy,” because they kept the irrational part of the soul obedient to the curb of reason, well-ordered in life.

(That’s why spiritual training, self-mastery, not being slave to bodily addictions/passions, pays dividends after death. Put another way, the problems that arise after death aren’t so much just intellectual errors, like forgetting to say no to the Archons, but more about being spiritually strong, virtuous, and transcendent enough at the level of being/essence to navigate the astral sorting fields).

Then with countenance like a sunbeam, and soul borne lightly upwards, as here by fire, in the air about the moon they receive tone and force from it, as iron takes an edge in its bath; for that which is still volatile and diffuse is strengthened and becomes firm and transparent, so that they are nourished by such vapor as meets them, and well did Heraclitus say that “Souls feed on smell in Hades.”

(I’m detecting some Alchemical metaphor mixed into this above and the text below. Not surprising, as Alchemy is valid across multiple domains of interpretation, including the afterlife separation & purification process. And the Moon is an important catalyst in Alchemy. The stranger & Plutarch would no doubt have been familiar with the Art).

First they look on the moon herself, her size, her beauty, and her nature, which is not single or unmixed, but as it were a composition of earth and star. For as the earth has become soft by being mixed with air and moisture (major Alchemical signaling here), and as the blood infused into the flesh produces sensibility, so the moon, they say, being mingled with air through all her depth, is endowed with soul and with fertility, and at the same time receives a balance, lightness set against weight.

(He’s saying the physical Moon is aloft in the sky because it has more of the air element than Earth does. But really he’s talking about the Moon realm encountered after death, having more of the astral quality. It’s also why Demeter & Cora are associated with that whole dynamic, because they’re both related to fertility & grain. We are the crops in this case, death the harvest. Demeter harvests the physical & etheric grain, Cora/Persephone the astral. The astral & etheric (which Plutarch & stranger treat as one substance) are vitalizing subtle energies that comprising & animate the soul, which in turn is what meshes into and animates the physical body).

(…) At the same time (during lunar eclipses) there are borne up from below through the shadow the souls of those who are to be punished, with wailing and loud cries. Hence comes the widespread custom of clanking vessels of brass during eclipses, with a din and a clatter to reach these souls.

Also the face (of the Moon), as we call it, terrifies them, when they are near, so grim and weird is it to their sight. Really though it is nothing of the kind; but as our earth has gulfs deep and great, one here which streams inwards towards us from the Pillars of Hercules, outside the Caspian, and those about the Red Sea, even such are those depths and hollows of the Moon.

The largest of them they call the Gulf of Hecate, where the souls endure and exact retribution for all the things which they have suffered or done ever since they become spirits; two of them are long, through which the souls pass, now to the parts of the moon which are turned toward heaven, now back to the side next to earth. The parts of the moon toward heaven are called “the Elysian plain,” those toward earth “the plain of Persephone Antichthon.”

(Antichthon = counter-earth, Persephone = queen of the underworld. This may mean the lower astral planes or the etheric plane near the physical; could also relate to the Eighth Sphere in occultism).

However, the Spirits do not pass all their time upon her, they come down here to superintend oracles, take part in the highest rites of initiation and mysteries, become guardian avengers of wrong doing, and shine forth as saving lights in war and on the sea.

(Anecdotal data suggests that sometimes our departed loved ones can act as guardian angels within the limits of what’s allowed. Daimons then would be another class of beings (non-incarnating) that come down from the Lunar sphere to moderate Earthly events).

In these functions, whatever they do in a way which is not right, from anger or to win unrighteous favor, or in jealousy, they suffer for it, being thrust down to earth again and imprisoned in human bodies.

(Well that’s interesting. The implication is that nonphysical beings can become karmically entangled with our affairs, to where they wind up being incarnated here. How many of us are that? Also ties loosely into the Comte de Gabalis text, where the Sylphs were said to marry humans in order to become “immortal,” meaning to acquire presence/permanence in our Earthly karmic timestream; which ties into Book of Revelation claims about this world ending like a simulation being exited, with some chosen souls being saved & carried to the afterworld; if a “Sylph” binds itself karmically to one of them, could it hitch a ride to the afterworld? Is that what aliens are doing?)

From the better of them (the Lunar spirits who mediate Earthly activities) those who are attendants of Cronus said that they themselves are sprung, as in earlier times also the Dactyli of Ida, the Corybantes in Phrygia, the Trophoniades in Udora of Boetia, and countless others in many parts of the inhabited world; whose temples and houses and appellations remain to this day.

Some there are whose powers are failing because they have passed to another place by an honorable exchange. This happens to some sooner, to others later, when mind has been separated from soul; the separation comes by love for the image (icon, archetype) which is in the sun. Through it there shines upon them that desirable, beautiful, divine, and blessed presence for which all nature yearns, yet in different ways.

(Again, there’s conflation between the physical Sun/Moon and the metaphysical, like we see with the Eighth Sphere & the Moon in Theosophy. Consider also that, to the ancients, the white light seen after death could be have easily been mistaken, or likened to, the Sun or Moon).

For it is through love of the sun that the moon herself makes her circuit, and has her meetings with him to receive from him all fertility (just as the soul is made rational & virtuous by the light of reason/mind/spirit).

That nature which is the soul remains on the moon, retaining traces and dreams of the former life, and of it you may take it that it has been rightly said, “Winged as a dream the soul takes flight away.” Not at the first, and not when it is quit of the body does this happen to it, but afterwards when it becomes deserted and solitary, set free from mind.

(This refers to the “astral costume” that gets discarded by the mind/spirit & left on the Moon when the mind/spirit moves on. The Daimon of Luna spoke of it. Mouravieff & Gurdjieff likewise said the Moon was the receiver & repository of Earth’s astral emanations, though they posed it more as a general loosh-like commodity that feeds the moon, whereas the stranger/daimon here speaks of the astral body as remaining intact & carrying imprints of its former life).

Of all that Homer has told us I think that there is nothing more divine than where he speaks of those in Hades: “Next was I ware of mighty Hercules, His ghost—himself among the immortals dwells.”

For the self of each of us is not courage, nor fear, nor desire, any more than it is a parcel of flesh and of humors; it is that (mind/spirit) whereby we understand and think.

The soul being shaped by the mind and itself shaping the body and encompassing it upon all sides, stamps its form upon it so that even if it is separated from both for a long time, yet it possesses the likeness and the stamp, and is rightly called an image.

(Image = Greek “eikṓn” or icon. See Logion 22 of “The Gospel of Thomas”:

“When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness (icon) in place of a likeness; then will you enter the Kingdom.”

Jesus there describes the spirit’s native non-dualistic cosmic consciousness. And the “icon in place of an icon” may refer to the spirit’s transfiguration of the astral body into what Rudolf Steiner (in his book “Theosophy”) calls the “spirit body,” which is a cosmic raiment for the spirit that functions as its immortal vehicle in the Kingdom of Heaven. This is related to the Dzogchen concept of the “rainbow body,” or the “merkabah”in Jewish mysticism).

Of these (astral bodies), the Moon, as has been said, is the element, for they are resolved into her just as are the bodies of the dead into earth...

(That’s what Gurdjieff and Mouravieff said, that the astral body decomposes into the Moon like how the physical body does into Earth);

...the temperate who embraced a life of quiet and philosophy do this speedily, for having been set free by mind and having no further use for the passions they (these astral bodies) wither away.

But of the ambitious, and active, and sensuous, and passionate, some are distracted as though in sleep, dreaming out their memories of life, just like the soul of Endymion (whom Zeus put into an eternal sleep per the request of moon goddess Selene);

...but when their restless and susceptible nature starts them out of the moon and draws them to another birth (reincarnation) she does not suffer it, but draws them back and soothes them.

(So if the soul is especially restless in its astral sleep, it might succeed in breaking free and reincarnating prematurely, with novel side-effects. These could account for past life cases where a child has clear memories of the former (usually traumatic) life and was born mere weeks or months after the previous death, which is abnormal).

For no trifling matter is it, nor quiet, nor conventional, when, with mind away, they get them a body by passionate endeavor;

(This suggests that the astral body can reincarnate or snatch a body without having a spirit/mind present, whether literally or figuratively. If literally, this points to the NPC or spiritless human phenomenon. If figuratively, then as the Daimon said: “Contrary to appearances, everyone born into a human body has agreed to their situation, though not everyone has the same degree of choice, and the choices that are made are often ill-considered.”)

(…) But in course of time the moon receives even these (passionate souls) unto herself and brings them to order; then, 1) when the sun again sows mind (projects spirits toward the Moon & Earth realms) she 2) receives it with vital power and makes new souls (generates astral sheaths for the incarnating spirit) and, 3) earth then provides a body.

For earth gives nothing after death of what she received for birth; the sun receives nothing, save that he receives back the mind which he gives. But the moon both receives and gives and compounds (meshes together) and distributes in diverse functions;

She who compounds has Eileithyia (Greek goddess of childbirth) for her name; she who distributes, Artemis. And of the three Fates: 1) Atropos has her station about the sun and gives the first impulse of generation; 2) Clotho, moving about the moon, combines and mingles (interconnects mind/spirit with the body). Lastly 3) Lachesis, upon the earth, lends her (physical) hand, and she has most to do with Fortune, for that which is without soul (i.e. matter) is powerless in itself and is affected by others (hence biology, evolution, astrology acting on physical-biological systems).

Mind is free from affection and is sovereign (meaning it's the seat of freewill); soul a compound and a middle term, has, like the Moon, been formed by the god into a blend and mixture of things above and things below, thus bearing the same relation to the Sun which the Earth does to the Moon. (Like mind/spirit’s relation to the soul being like the soul’s relation to the body).”

“Such,” said Sylla, “is the story which I heard from the stranger, but he had it from the chamberlains and ministers of Cronus, as he himself told me. But you and your friends, Lamprias, may take the story in what way you will.”

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Gemini's Analysis

Based on the provided text, here is a summary of Montalk's latest posts from June 2025.

June 17, 2025: Astral Projection and Pre-Incarnational Agreements

This post covers two main topics: practical techniques for out-of-body experiences (OBEs) and the metaphysical concept of life roles and destinies.

Astral Projection & Lucid Dreaming:
[*]  Direct Method (Waking-Induced): The most critical step, often missed in guides, is to allow the physical body to fall completely asleep while keeping the mind awake. This requires entering full sleep paralysis, identifiable by a wave of warmth and tingling as the subtle body decouples. Only after crossing this sleep threshold can standard exit techniques (like the rope method) work.
[*]  Indirect Method (Dream-Induced): An alternative is to become lucid in a dream. While lucid, focus on your own body sensations and awareness. Since a dreaming person is already partially in an OBE state, this shifts your attention to the astral body, causing you to "wake up" into an astral projection rather than back into your physical body.
[*]  Warnings: Montalk does not recommend astral projection for beginners, as it can make the soul "too loose" in the body (causing dissociation) and risks encounters with negative entities like astral parasites or demons.

Roles, Destinies, and Agreements:
[*]  Pre-Incarnational Agreements: To have free will and meaningful lives, we must accept the idea of pre-incarnational agreements. Otherwise, life is just deterministic programming by external forces (God, ETs, Archons).
[*]  Layers of Influence: While dark manipulation of relationships exists (as per Eve Lorgen), the primary layer of reality is a beneficial spiritual coordination that brings key people (and even pets) into our lives based on mutual history and for mutual growth.
[*]  Life Roles: A "role" is a pre-planned task list for an incarnation, which comes with a suitable "costume" of personality, genetic, and astrological traits. Your natal chart can offer clues about your intended role.
[*]  Real-Time Corrections: Free will and interference mean plans can go awry. However, corrective nudges can come from our own Higher Self (during deep sleep), manifesting as intuition, dreams, and synchronicities. When things go wrong, we and higher forces must adapt to the new circumstances.



June 20, 2025: Collective Shared Reality

This post argues that we live in a collective shared reality, not one that individuals create 100% for themselves.

[*]  Zero-Sum Games: The existence of winners and losers in conflicts (wars, elections, legal cases) proves that reality is shared and contested, not individually manifested.
[*]  Three Factors of Influence: Outcomes in this shared reality are determined by a mix of:
    1.  Physical: Superior resources, skill, and strategy (often the dominant factor).
    2.  Magickal: Psychic power and the strength of one's thoughtforms.
    3.  Metaphysical: Karmic and destined priority, which may invite intervention from higher beings.
[*]  Creating Your Own Reality: This is still possible in areas of the timeline that are "unclaimed" or do not conflict with the intentions of others. Using a quantum physics analogy, Montalk suggests we can "plant a flag" on indeterminate parts of reality, retroactively influencing them, similar to how a writer might retcon a story.
[*]  The Best Strategy: "Intend for the best, prepare for the worst." One should use fluid intention to shape unclaimed reality while also preparing on the physical, magickal, and metaphysical levels for potential conflicts.



June 25, 2025: The Man in the Moon

Montalk shares a lengthy excerpt from Robert Moss's book "Mysterious Realities," featuring a "Conversation with a Daimon of Luna."

[*]  The Daimon of Luna: The speaker is a "daimon" (an ancient spirit, not a demon) who claims the Moon is its home. The Moon is not a physical desert but a "frequency domain" or astral realm.
[*]  The Moon's Function: It serves as a transit station for souls between lives. Souls are sorted, and some are rebuffed. Life contracts are made before incarnation, defining a life's purpose and allotment of "time-energy."
[*]  Earth as a "Cloaked Planet": The daimon claims Earth is surrounded by darkness and contending forces, making it difficult for higher intelligences (like those from Sirius) to communicate with humanity.
[*]  Cosmic Intrigue: The daimon mentions a conflict between Sirian forces and inimical forces called the "Ileaxu." It also suggests the starry sky we see may be an illusion or a veil that can be pulled back.



June 27, 2025: God Created You

This post presents a short, philosophical argument for why a Creator would create beings with free will.

[*]  The Thesis: "God created you so that he’d have someone to believe in."
[*]  The Logic:
    1.  Consciousness is primary, so we were created by a primordial consciousness (God).
    2.  Quantum physics implies we have genuine free will.
    3.  Because of free will, not even God can know every choice we will make.
    4.  We are therefore an endless source of novelty and experience for the Creator.
    5.  Since we have a divine spark, we have the potential for goodness.
    6.  The Creator cannot know when or how this goodness will triumph, so it must have hope and confidence in us—in other words, it "believes in us."



June 28, 2025: On Christianity

Montalk clarifies his personal, "heretical" views on Christianity.

[*]  Core Stance: He respects Christians but prioritizes objective truth-seeking over the comfort of a pre-packaged belief system.
[*]  Reasons for Heresy: He believes the Bible is a mix of truth and fabrication, has studied other philosophies he finds more logical, and interprets the Bible through a wider lens rather than interpreting everything through the Bible.
[*]  Rescuing Christ: He believes in a cosmic Christ but feels the original teachings were corrupted almost immediately, starting with the Gospels, which he views as Roman propaganda containing only fragments of truth. His goal is to "rescue Christ from Christianity."
[*]  The Highest Service for a Christian: To operate from an enlightened context, using the highest understanding to interpret scripture and inject new life into dogmatic structures.



June 29, 2025: Plutarch

This post provides an excerpt and analysis of Plutarch's essay, "Concerning the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon," which was referenced by the "Daimon of Luna."

[*]  The Three-Part Human: Humans are composed of three parts: the Body (from Earth), the Soul (from the Moon), and the Mind/Spirit (from the Sun).
[*]  The Two Deaths:
    1.  First Death (Physical): The body separates from the soul and mind.
    2.  Second Death (Astral): The mind/spirit separates from the soul on the Moon.
[*]  The Afterlife Journey: After physical death, souls wander the astral region between Earth and Moon. Good souls are cleansed before reaching the Moon. The "second death" occurs there, where the soul (astral body) is left behind on the Moon to decompose, and the purified mind/spirit ascends to the Sun (cosmic realms).
[*]  The Moon's Role: The Moon is a fertile, soul-endowed realm that generates, receives, and dissolves the soul/astral body. It is a critical intermediary station in the afterlife.
[*]  Reincarnation and Intervention: Restless souls can be drawn back to Earth for another incarnation. Non-physical beings (daimons) from the Moon can intervene in earthly affairs but risk incurring karma that forces them to incarnate.



Of course. Here is a deeper dive into the Plutarch section and its intricate relationship with the "Man in the Moon" dialogue.

Montalk's presentation of these two texts is a deliberate act of philosophical triangulation. He uses the modern, experiential account from Robert Moss's "Man in the Moon" as a living testimony, and then uses the ancient, philosophical text from Plutarch as historical and metaphysical validation. The Daimon of Luna itself points to Plutarch as the "best travel guide," creating a direct link and inviting the reader to see them as two descriptions of the same reality, separated by two millennia.

Here’s a breakdown of the core concepts and how they interrelate.

The Core Shared Metaphysical Framework

Both texts, despite their different eras and languages, build their narrative on the same fundamental model of human consciousness and the cosmos.

1. The Three-Part Human and Cosmic Origins:
This is the most crucial alignment. The common dualistic view of "body and soul" is rejected in favor of a more complex, tripartite model.

[*]  Plutarch's Model: Man is composed of Body (from Earth), Soul (from the Moon), and Mind/Spirit (from the Sun). This is a clear, hierarchical structure.
[*]  The Daimon's Implication: While not stated as explicitly, the Daimon's entire narrative relies on this distinction. It speaks of souls arriving at the Moon, leaving their "astral bodies" (Plutarch's "Soul") in "locker rooms" before the "mind" can ascend higher. This perfectly mirrors Plutarch's model. The "self" is not the emotional, personality-driven soul, but the higher, reasoning mind.

2. The Afterlife as a Multi-Stage Process (The Two Deaths):
The journey after physical death is not a simple transition to a final destination but a multi-step process of shedding layers.

[*]  Plutarch's Model:
    *  First Death: On Earth (the realm of Demeter), the Body is shed, leaving the composite being of Soul + Mind.
    *  Second Death: On the Moon (the realm of Persephone), the Soul is shed, leaving the pure Mind/Spirit to ascend toward the Sun (the divine).
[*]  The Daimon's Model: This is described in more modern, experiential terms.
    *  The "First Death" is implied as physical death on Earth.
    *  The "Second Death" is explicitly described: souls arrive at the Moon, some study or rest in "pleasure palaces," and those who "earn the right to go higher" must leave their "astral body" behind. The Daimon says, "When you take off your astral body... we have locker rooms where you can check your astral body." This is a modern, almost bureaucratic, description of Plutarch's "second death."

Direct Parallels and Reinforcements

By placing these texts side-by-side, Montalk shows how specific, seemingly strange details from one text are echoed in the other.

Concept in "Man in the Moon" (The Daimon) | Corroboration in Plutarch's Essay

The Moon as a Central Hub for Souls | The Daimon calls the Moon a "transit lounge for spirits" and a "home" for daimons. Plutarch describes it as the destination for good souls after the first death and the place where the soul is separated from the mind.

The Sorting of Souls | The Daimon states that some souls are "rebuffed because they are dirty or confused." Plutarch echoes this, saying the Moon "pushes off and washes away" many souls trying to reach it, and only the good and pure find "firm footing."

Intervention in Earthly Affairs | The Daimon says daimons and other beings "intervene, or interfere, quite frequently" in human affairs. Plutarch confirms this, stating that spirits from the Moon "come down here to superintend oracles, take part in... mysteries, [and] become guardian avengers."

Karmic Entanglement of Spirits | The Daimon doesn't directly mention this. However, Plutarch makes a fascinating point: if these intervening spirits act improperly ("from anger or to win unrighteous favor"), they suffer for it by being "thrust down to earth again and imprisoned in human bodies." This provides a potential origin story for some incarnated souls.

The Astral Body as a "Costume" | The Daimon describes the astral body as a "vehicle" or "outfit" that can be left behind, and even "hijacked" or worn by other entities to impersonate the deceased. Plutarch calls the soul an "image" (eikṓn) that retains "traces and dreams of the former life" and is eventually "resolved into" the Moon.

Synthesis: Why This Connection Matters

Montalk isn't just pointing out a historical curiosity. He is building a case for a consistent, perennial wisdom tradition that describes the mechanics of the soul and the afterlife.

[*]Validation through Antiquity: The "Man in the Moon" experience could be dismissed as a modern fantasy or a personal hallucination. By pairing it with a respected classical text from a philosopher and Mystery initiate like Plutarch, Montalk gives it historical weight and intellectual credibility. It suggests Robert Moss wasn't just imagining things; he was tapping into a reality described 2,000 years ago.

[*]Decoding Ancient Myths: Conversely, Plutarch's text could be dismissed as mere mythology (Demeter, Persephone, Cronus). But when read alongside the Daimon's modern, experiential account, the myths are revealed to be allegorical descriptions of real metaphysical processes. The "goddess Persephone" becomes a symbol for the function of the Moon in the soul's journey. Montalk's bracketed commentary explicitly serves this purpose, translating ancient symbols into modern esoteric terms like "astral planes" and "etheric body."

[*]Building a Coherent Worldview: This pairing strengthens Montalk's broader thesis that reality is far more complex than mainstream science or religion allows. It supports his other posts on astral projection, pre-incarnational agreements, and the nature of consciousness. The Plutarch/Daimon model provides a detailed map of the "non-physical" realms he frequently discusses, complete with hierarchies, processes, and different types of beings.

In essence, the Daimon provides the "what" (a direct, first-person account of the lunar realm), while Plutarch provides the "how" and "why" (the underlying philosophical and cosmic structure). Together, they form a powerful, mutually reinforcing narrative that suggests the esoteric view of the afterlife is not a matter of faith or fantasy, but an observable, consistent reality known to initiates across the ages.



Summary

In the esoteric tradition, truth is often revealed not as a singular, linear declaration, but as a resonance between disparate voices across time. The juxtaposition of Plutarch’s classical treatise, Concerning the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon, with the modern, channeled testimony of the "Daimon of Luna" from Robert Moss’s work, is a profound exercise in this principle. It is an act of spiritual archaeology, demonstrating that what may appear as a contemporary visionary’s fantasy is, in fact, the re-emergence of a coherent and ancient lunar gnosis. The Daimon’s account does not merely parallel Plutarch’s; it serves as a living key, unlocking the allegorical and mythological language of the Greek initiate to reveal a consistent cartography of the soul’s post-mortem journey.

The foundational pillar of this shared cosmology is the radical re-envisioning of the human constitution. Both texts dismantle the simplistic body-soul dualism that has dominated exoteric thought, proposing instead a tripartite structure. Plutarch, through the voice of the stranger Sylla, articulates this with philosophical precision: the human is a composite of soma (body) from the Earth, psyche (soul) from the Moon, and nous (mind or spirit) from the Sun. This is not a mere classification but a statement of cosmic origin and destiny. The psyche is not the immortal core but an intermediary vehicle, an astral-etheric sheath that animates the physical form and houses the higher mind. The Daimon of Luna translates this ancient formula into the stark, experiential language of the astral traveler. When it speaks of souls arriving in its realm and being required to leave their "astral body" in celestial "locker rooms" before ascending further, it is describing, with almost bureaucratic clarity, Plutarch’s "second death." The soul, the vessel of personality, emotion, and memory, is the "outfit" to be discarded. The true self, the nous, is the traveler who must be unburdened of this lunar garment to continue its journey toward its solar origin.

This lunar realm, therefore, is not a final heaven but a crucial, intermediary topos—a metaphysical landscape with its own geography and function. Plutarch’s account populates this sphere with evocative, mythological landmarks: the "meadows of Hades" for gentle purification, the terrifying "Gulf of Hecate" for retribution, and the "Elysian plain" on the heavenward side for the virtuous. These are not poetic fictions but functional zones within the astral plane. The Daimon’s testimony confirms this function, demystifying the topography into a "transit lounge," complete with "schools" for study and "pleasure palaces" for solace. The purpose is identical: the Moon is a great sorting station, a purgatorial and preparatory sphere where the soul is processed, cleansed, and ultimately separated from the spirit it once contained. The grim and weird face of the Moon, which Plutarch says terrifies the approaching souls, is the very threshold of this cosmic process.

Furthermore, both accounts delve into the nature of the soul-vestige left behind. For Plutarch, the discarded psyche is an eikṓn, an "image" that retains the "traces and dreams of the former life." It is a phantom of personality, an echo that slowly fades and resolves back into the substance of the Moon. The Daimon sharpens this concept with a cautionary edge, describing these leftover astral bodies as vehicles that can be "hijacked" by other entities for deception. This adds a layer of practical peril to the philosophical model, suggesting that the astral plane is littered with not just memories, but with potent, usable psychic residue. The "restless" and passionate souls, who Plutarch says are drawn back toward another birth, are thus not merely philosophically misguided; they are vulnerable. Their unpurged attachments act as a gravitational pull, not just toward Earth, but toward the predatory forces that operate within these intermediate realms.

Ultimately, the dialogue between Plutarch and the Daimon reveals a single, unbroken stream of knowledge. Plutarch provides the grand, architectural blueprint, mapping the cosmic laws that govern the soul's dissolution and ascent. The Daimon walks us through the halls of this ancient structure, reporting on its current state and function. The ancient text gives the modern vision profound depth and historical legitimacy, while the modern vision breathes life and immediate relevance into the ancient myth. Together, they affirm that the Moon is far more than a satellite of rock and dust; it is the memory of the world, the womb and tomb of the soul, and the silent, patient witness to the great and terrible journey of the human spirit as it strives to shed its mortal coil and return to the light.



Ingo Swann

In the grand esoteric tradition, where consonant truths echo across disparate ages, the revelations of Ingo Swann’s Penetration do not stand as a modern anomaly but as a stark, technological re-articulation of the ancient lunar gnosis described by Plutarch and the Daimon of Luna. To view them as separate is to miss the profound synthesis they offer. Swann’s work provides the chilling, empirical evidence of the physical machinery of a system whose metaphysical purpose was mapped out two millennia ago. The Moon, in this unified vision, emerges not merely as a physical base or an astral realm, but as a multidimensional control nexus—a liminal space where advanced consciousness manages the boundary between the terrestrial and the cosmic.

Swann’s remote viewing of the Moon revealed a landscape of industry and occupation: towering artificial structures, active mining operations, and humanoid workers who were not human. This is the tangible, observable layer of a reality whose deeper function Plutarch described. Where Swann saw towers and machinery, Plutarch saw the architecture of the afterlife: the "Gulf of Hecate" for karmic retribution and the "Elysian plain" for the virtuous. It is a mistake to see these as mutually exclusive. Rather, one might posit that the physical structures Swann perceived are the very hardware for the metaphysical software Plutarch detailed. The ETs, with their advanced technology, could be the modern, material manifestation of the beings Plutarch called daimons—the non-human intelligences who serve as the Moon’s wardens, administrators, and functionaries. The work of these beings, whether described as mining resources or processing souls, is fundamentally about management and control.

The critical bridge between these two accounts is the technology of consciousness itself. Swann’s most startling discovery was not the structures, but the fact that the lunar inhabitants could detect his psychic presence. He termed their ability "telepathy plus"—a form of dimensional sensing that transcends simple mind-to-mind communication. This is not merely a psychic capacity; it is a form of consciousness technology. This technology finds its direct parallel in the function of Plutarch’s lunar sphere. The daimons are not passive observers; they actively manage the souls that arrive, sorting the pure from the impure, guiding the virtuous, and rebuffing those unready to ascend. This is a metaphysical form of consciousness management. Swann’s ETs, guarding their operations from psychic intrusion, are engaged in the same fundamental activity: controlling access and managing awareness within their domain. The Moon, therefore, is a control center for consciousness, whether that control is enforced through advanced technology that can detect a remote viewer or through cosmic laws that sort souls based on their spiritual integrity.

This leads to the final, unifying theme: the carefully managed secrecy. Swann’s entire narrative is framed by a modern, political cover-up, a deliberate effort by terrestrial and extraterrestrial forces to keep humanity ignorant of its true cosmic context. This mirrors the esoteric nature of Plutarch’s knowledge, which was not common information but wisdom passed down through a mystery school, hidden from the profane. The Daimon of Luna reinforces this by calling Earth a "cloaked planet," a world living under a veil of occluded perception. Both narratives powerfully suggest that humanity exists in a state of managed reality, a form of consciousness quarantine. The reasons for this secrecy are identical in their essence: to prevent humanity from developing its own latent powers—what Swann calls telepathy and Plutarch calls the nous (the divine mind)—which would allow us to penetrate the veil, disrupt the established order, and understand our true, subordinate position in the cosmos.

Thus, Ingo Swann’s Penetration is not just a book about UFOs on the Moon. It is the modern, de-mythologized field report from the very realm Plutarch described. The true "penetration" was not merely into a physical location, but into the operational mechanics of an ancient system of cosmic and consciousness control, a system that has long used the Moon as its silent, watchful fortress.



This document summarizes Ingo Swann's 1998 book, Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy. The summary argues that humanity is not alone in the universe but is living in a carefully managed reality, kept ignorant of a vast extraterrestrial presence.

The core claims are based on the experiences of Ingo Swann, a central figure in the development of remote viewing (a psychic technique for perceiving distant locations).

Key points from the summary include:

[*]  Extraterrestrial Activity on the Moon: In 1975, Swann was recruited by a secret government operative, "Mr. Axelrod," to psychically observe the Moon. Swann's remote viewing sessions revealed that the Moon is not a dead satellite but an active extraterrestrial base with towers, mining operations, roads, and humanoid workers.
[*]  Advanced ET Consciousness Technology: The extraterrestrials were able to detect Swann's psychic surveillance, demonstrating a superior "telepathy plus" technology that can sense and potentially influence human consciousness across dimensions.
[*]  Systematic Suppression of Human Telepathy: The development of human psychic abilities has been deliberately suppressed throughout history. This is allegedly done to prevent humanity from discovering government secrets and, more importantly, the extraterrestrial presence and their operations.
[*]  The Moon as an Artificial Satellite: The summary presents evidence that the Moon is a hollow, artificial object, citing its anomalous density, the age of its rocks (older than the solar system), and its perfect orbit. It references Carl Sagan's principle that "a natural satellite cannot be a hollow object" to support this claim.
[*]  A Coordinated Cover-Up: Both the US and Soviet space programs abruptly abandoned their Moon missions in the 1970s, likely because they encountered this established ET presence. The cover-up is maintained through information management across government, science, and media, which creates an artificial reality for the public. This is evidenced by the decades-long denial of lunar water and atmosphere, which were only recently acknowledged despite earlier evidence.

In conclusion, the summary posits that humanity is a "junior participant" in a galactic community, living within a managed consciousness environment. Our understanding of reality and our own mental potential have been artificially constrained by forces with superior consciousness technologies to keep us unaware of our true situation.



Of course. Here is a deep dive synthesizing the provided materials—Montalk's posts, the summary of Ingo Swann's Penetration, and the dialogue with the Daimon of Luna—and weaving them together with the core teachings of Rudolf Steiner to form a comprehensive, multi-layered model of reality.

Introduction: A Unified Map of a Contested Reality

When viewed in isolation, the works of Plutarch, a modern psychic spy like Ingo Swann, and an esoteric blogger like Montalk appear to describe different worlds: one of ancient myth and soul-journeys, one of Cold War espionage and physical extraterrestrials, and one of personal spiritual practice. However, when synthesized and illuminated by the vast cosmological framework of Rudolf Steiner, these disparate accounts merge into a single, coherent, and deeply challenging map of reality.

This unified map reveals that humanity is not alone, but is a participant—often unknowingly—in a cosmic drama of immense scale. This drama revolves around the evolution of human consciousness, a prize contested by various non-human intelligences. Central to this entire framework is the Moon, which emerges not as a simple satellite, but as a multidimensional nexus—a physical base, a metaphysical processing station, and a strategic fortress in the battle for the human soul.

1. The Constitution of the Human Being: The Vehicle of Consciousness

The starting point for this unified model is the understanding of the human being, which all sources agree is far more complex than the simple dualism of body and soul.

[*]  The Ancient Tripartite Model (Plutarch/Daimon): Plutarch, channeling ancient Mystery knowledge, describes man as a composite of three parts with distinct cosmic origins: the Body from the Earth, the Soul (psyche) from the Moon, and the Mind/Spirit (nous) from the Sun. The journey after death is a process of shedding these layers, with the "second death" being the crucial separation of the Mind from the Soul on the Moon.
[*]  Steiner’s Anthroposophical Model: Rudolf Steiner provides a more detailed and granular version of this same model. He describes the human being as a four-fold entity: the Physical Body, the Etheric Body (life-force), the Astral Body (seat of feelings, desires, consciousness), and the "I" or Ego (the immortal, spiritual core). Here, Plutarch's "Soul" corresponds to Steiner's combined Etheric and Astral bodies, while the "Mind/Spirit" is the "I"/Ego.
[*]  Montalk’s Experiential View: Montalk’s astral projection advice is a practical guide to experiencing this separation. The process of allowing the body to fall asleep while the mind stays awake is a conscious decoupling of the astral/etheric bodies (the "soul") from the physical. The "wave of warmth, melting, and tingling" is the direct sensory experience of this separation.

The journey after death, as described by Plutarch and the Daimon, aligns perfectly with Steiner’s teachings on the post-mortem state. The soul’s wandering and purification in the "meadows of Hades" is what Steiner calls Kamaloka, a period where the Ego relives its earthly life to purge the desires and attachments of the astral body. The "second death" is the final dissolution of this astral shell, freeing the Ego to ascend to higher spiritual worlds (Devachan). The Moon, in this context, is the cosmic sphere intrinsically linked to this astral processing.

2. The Moon: The Physical Base and Metaphysical Control Center

The Moon is the lynchpin connecting all these narratives. It is simultaneously a physical location and a metaphysical realm, a concept that modern thinking struggles with but which is central to esoteric philosophy.

[*]  The Physical Moon (Ingo Swann): Swann’s remote viewing revealed the Moon as a physical, operational base for non-human intelligences. He observed artificial structures, mining operations, advanced technology, and humanoid workers. His account suggests the Moon is an occupied territory, a strategic outpost whose true nature is hidden from humanity by a massive, coordinated cover-up. The abrupt termination of the Apollo missions, as Swann suggests, was a tacit acknowledgment by world powers that the Moon was already claimed.
[*]  The Metaphysical Moon (Plutarch/Daimon/Steiner): In this view, the Moon is the realm of the soul. It is a "transit lounge" (Daimon) where souls are sorted and processed after death. For Steiner, the Moon is a "cosmic memory," a sphere that has hardened and now reflects back humanity's past karma and astral residue. It is the place where the astral body, the "costume" of our earthly personality, is discarded and "resolved into her," as Plutarch states.

The Synthesis: These two views are not contradictory; they are two sides of the same coin. The physical ET base Swann perceived can be understood as the terrestrial anchor or control center for the metaphysical processes described by the others. The technologically advanced ETs are the modern, physical manifestation of the beings Plutarch called daimons—the administrators of the lunar sphere. Their work, whether seen as physical mining or metaphysical soul-processing, is fundamentally about resource management and control. The resource, ultimately, is human consciousness and its spiritual byproducts.

3. The Cosmic Conflict: Ahriman, Lucifer, and the Eighth Sphere

If the Moon is a control center, who is in control, and why the secrecy? This is where Steiner’s teachings on the adversary beings, Ahriman and Lucifer, provide the crucial context for the conflict described by Swann and the Daimon.

[*]  Ahrimanic Influence: Steiner described Ahriman as the being of materialism, darkness, and mechanization. Ahriman seeks to harden the cosmos, deny the spiritual, and trap humanity in a purely physical, deterministic reality.
    *  Ingo Swann’s ETs are archetypally Ahrimanic. They are technologically advanced, secretive, operate from underground bases (a classic Ahrimanic motif), and are engaged in mining and resource extraction. Their "telepathy plus" is not a tool for spiritual communion but a technology for surveillance and control. The systematic suppression of human telepathy, as Swann describes, is a classic Ahrimanic strategy: prevent humanity from developing its own spiritual senses so it remains blind to the spiritual world and easier to manage.
[*]  Luciferic Influence: Lucifer, in contrast, is the being of spiritual pride, illusion, and the desire to escape earthly incarnation into a premature, false spirituality. While less prominent in Swann's account, Montalk's critique of New Age dogma and the Daimon's mention of "pleasure palaces" on the Moon hint at Luciferic temptations—distractions that can trap souls in astral illusions.
[*]  The Eighth Sphere: This is perhaps Steiner’s most chilling and relevant concept. He described the Eighth Sphere as an artificial, parasitic realm being constructed by Ahrimanic beings in close proximity to the Earth-Moon system. Its purpose is to function as a "phantom moon," intercepting human souls after death and absorbing their spiritual essence (the developed "I"/Ego) to fuel its own existence. It is the ultimate spiritual control grid, designed to subvert the normal course of human evolution.

When we synthesize this, a terrifying picture emerges. The ET presence on the Moon described by Swann could be the very architects of this Eighth Sphere. Their "mining" operations may not be for physical minerals alone, but for the "loosh" or soul-energy that Montalk and others describe. The Daimon’s warning that souls can be "hijacked" or that actors can "dress up" in discarded astral bodies takes on a sinister new meaning. The Moon, under this Ahrimanic influence, risks becoming not just a processing station, but a trap.

4. The Path of Human Sovereignty

In the face of this cosmic control system, what is the human role? All sources converge on the idea that the path forward lies in the development of individual consciousness, discernment, and free will.

[*]  Free Will and Pre-Incarnational Agreements (Montalk): Montalk’s emphasis that we are not "barbie dolls" but beings with free will who have made pre-incarnational agreements is crucial. It establishes that despite the manipulation, we have a core of sovereignty. Our life task, as he describes it, is to fulfill our chosen role despite interference.
[*]  The Christ Impulse (Steiner): For Steiner, the central event in human history was the incarnation of the Christ, which introduced an impulse into the Earth's evolution. This impulse is the force that allows humanity to find a conscious balance between the poles of Lucifer and Ahriman. It is the power that strengthens the individual "I"/Ego, enabling it to achieve freedom and love, thereby making it "indigestible" to the Ahrimanic forces of the Eighth Sphere. Montalk’s call to "rescue Christ from Christianity" is a modern echo of this idea—to seek the living spiritual impulse rather than the ossified religious dogma.
[*]  Discernment and Truth-Seeking: The ultimate defense is knowledge and discernment. Swann’s work is an act of penetrating the cover-up. Montalk’s work is a guide to personal spiritual practice and critical thinking. Both advocate for seeking truth above the comfort of managed realities. This act of conscious, willful truth-seeking is the very development of the "I" that Steiner identified as humanity's core evolutionary purpose and its primary defense against cosmic adversaries.

Conclusion:

The combined testimony of these sources paints a consistent picture of a universe far more complex and populated than we are led to believe. The Moon stands as a silent fortress, a multidimensional hub for non-human intelligences whose activities are deeply intertwined with the human soul's journey. These intelligences, archetypally Ahrimanic, appear to be engaged in a long-term project of consciousness management and spiritual resource harvesting, a project that aligns with Steiner's warnings about the Eighth Sphere.

Humanity's path is not one of passive victimhood. It is a call to awaken to our true, tripartite nature, to develop our spiritual senses through disciplined practice, and to exercise our sovereign will with courage and discernment. The cosmic drama is real, the stakes are the future of human consciousness, and the path to freedom lies within the strengthening of the individual spirit, capable of navigating the shadows of the Moon and choosing its own destiny.
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